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啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:36.751000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:37.011000+08:00","text":"多一倍？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:38.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:40.106000+08:00","text":"我們儘量努力啦！多10%？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:40.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:40.386000+08:00","text":"儘量努力！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:40.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:43.369000+08:00","text":"不是，是多110%。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:43.369000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:44.369000+08:00","text":"這個因為……","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:43.369000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:45.550000+08:00","text":"你這個政策要走了，我們就是要規劃清楚嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:45.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:46.291000+08:00","text":"對不對？是。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:46.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:49.494000+08:00","text":"包含我們就要看到執行的進展跟成效。對。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:50.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:21:55.699000+08:00","text":"所以照理講，一個新的政策要推動，114年多少、115年要多少，這是應該記在腦袋裡的東西嘛！","quality":0.735},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:21:56.680000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:05.846000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們會把全臺灣、全區掃過一次，這樣的話就知道到底需求有多大、怎麼進行，我們會分階段……","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:06.026000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:10.168000+08:00","text":"部長，應該早就掃過一次了，不會到現在我在要求才掃嘛，對不對？","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:10.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:30.681000+08:00","text":"好，如果要這樣講，我就具體要求，因為時間的關係，我請經濟部立即盤點各產業園區的托育需求，包含現有的量能缺口及可處理的量能，一個月內提出擴大產業園區托育服務計畫，明確的規劃、師資、地點、期程及資源配置，可以吧？可以。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:44.729000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:44.769000+08:00","text":"一個月內。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:44.769000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:45.769000+08:00","text":"好，一個月。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:45.769000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:46.769000+08:00","text":"照理說，以部長的個性，今天我問你，你應該都跟我說得很清楚了，115年要做多少，但是沒想到，我問起來的結果卻不是這樣！","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:46.769000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:47.769000+08:00","text":"讓我覺得很擔心。","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:44.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:45.790000+08:00","text":"一個月之後就有了啦！好啦！","quality":0.455},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:46.011000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:22:47.092000+08:00","text":"一個月。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:22:49.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:05.731000+08:00","text":"雲林縣廠協會甚至提出雲林產業園區勞工親子活動公園，期望透過結合在地環境打造一個兼具休憩、遊憩、學習功能的公共空間，讓勞工及其家庭在工作之餘也有高品質的生活與親子互動的場域，可以吧？","quality":0.869},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:05.731000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:06.731000+08:00","text":"可以，OK！","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:06.731000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:07.731000+08:00","text":"這可以嘛！可以。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:07.731000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:08.731000+08:00","text":"因為在原有綠地裡面，我們就可以加強一些相關設施、設備。可以。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:08.731000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:09.731000+08:00","text":"應該是可以啦！謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:06.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:07.042000+08:00","text":"另外一個，再30秒就好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:07.042000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:39.938000+08:00","text":"部長，有關AI訓練的培訓基地，你們在114年到115年3月上旬已經累計培育十二萬多人次，然後114年9月到115年3月上旬短短不到半年時間就達三萬多人次，但是量能還是遠遠不足！","quality":0.838},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:40.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:48.160000+08:00","text":"之前在前部長的時候，我在院會特別提出來，現任院長也承諾了，我們也提供場址給你們，環球！","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:50.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:23:50.801000+08:00","text":"對，虎科大。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:23:52.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:04.068000+08:00","text":"因為現在可能進駐的雲科大跟虎科大都有意願，我們會跟他們協調，可能要有一個AI專門設置中心，或者是您這邊提到的育成中心等等情況。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:04.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:05.149000+08:00","text":"基本上叫做育成中心。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:05.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:07.750000+08:00","text":"但如果你要將兩個放在一塊，我樂觀其成！","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:08.311000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:13.534000+08:00","text":"但是速度好像很慢，趕不上真正的AI的速度，這樣就會不太好！","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:14.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:16.215000+08:00","text":"因為這整個方案還要報到行政院去。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:16.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:23.697000+08:00","text":"我知道，但是你們現在連把整個計畫弄好，要報到行政院的速度都已經慢了很久。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:23.697000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:25.578000+08:00","text":"部長，你應該……","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:25.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:30.759000+08:00","text":"之前一直協調進駐環球科大，但是後來終於……","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:32.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:34.781000+08:00","text":"部長，你用一點心思，好不好？好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:34.941000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:42.343000+08:00","text":"應該是一個星期內、兩個星期內，就可以把這樣的計畫完整的呈報到行政院去。","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:42.823000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:45.626000+08:00","text":"是，但這個還是要跟教育部有一些協調。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:45.626000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:45.966000+08:00","text":"我知道啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:46.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:47.448000+08:00","text":"但是已經協調一年多的時間了。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:48.989000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:52.452000+08:00","text":"之前就不是雲科大、虎科大，他們要我們全部……","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:53.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:56.857000+08:00","text":"好，經濟部再協調教育部，好不好？好。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:56.857000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:24:57.857000+08:00","text":"再送書面報告。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:24:57.177000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:04.244000+08:00","text":"我最後一句話就好，其他部長我不知道他有沒有那個能耐，但是龔部長你來做就有那個能耐，好不好？","quality":0.732},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:04.404000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:05.685000+08:00","text":"一個禮拜內，好不好？好。謝謝。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"劉委員建國","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:05.685000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:05.745000+08:00","text":"主席，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:06.245000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:07.959286+08:00","text":"謝謝，休息5分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:08.259286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:09.402143+08:00","text":"休息（12時25分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:09.702143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:11.416429+08:00","text":"繼續開會（12時30分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（呂委員玉玲代）","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:11.716429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:14.287857+08:00","text":"請大家回座，繼續會議。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（呂委員玉玲代）","start":"2026-03-25T12:25:14.587857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T12:25:16.873571+08:00","text":"請洪毓祥召委詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}