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那另外今天很多同仁關心的就是所謂的這個消擬月經貧窮這個議題其實上一屆本席跟很多的同仁就開始倡議那教育部就開始實施了這個友善提供多元生理用品的計畫不過現在實施將近三年公民團體有一些指出的部分就是說部分學校還是有這個生理用品這個不夠"},{"start":402.907,"end":414.816,"text":"取用不便還是說有宣導不足或品相太單一的這些問題還有就是說有些學生要向老師請生理假有被刁難的狀況所以我覺得為了精進這項政策"},{"start":417.898,"end":446.032,"text":"那本席那時候就有寫過預算提案所以要求就要不改善那這次我們這個學校衛生法來修法我覺得是不是本席的版本也有把這個各級主管機關應協助各級學校備制多元生理用品還有加強這個學校園中的月經教育相關的文字寫進來就是有相關的明確的這個法源依據那針對現行的這個多元生理用品的政策"},{"start":446.812,"end":464.534,"text":"不曉得教育部有沒有盤點現在各級學校的實施狀況那哪個教育階段的學校比較需要加強或者對於我們怎麼樣增加這個可敬性那教育部有沒有什麼明確的改善措施那個我們先請"},{"start":466.82,"end":485.928,"text":"委員報告其實跟公民團體溝通的部分這兩年我們都持續跟他們溝通所以他們提出很多寶貴的建議包括剛委員有提到說很多學生不知道所以我們在115年修正我們的參考指引之後我們在上面有明確規範說學校應該要上網公告學校那個學校放置多元生理用品的一個一點的一個地圖"},{"start":486.628,"end":504.699,"text":"那這樣可以增進那個學生知悉的一個權利那另外我們也要求學校提供多元的生理用品衛生棉是一定要那其他的包括說像月經杯等等我們希望學校也要提供那另外也要有設置專責的管理人透過這樣多元的一個制度然後來協助學校落實這樣的一個政策"},{"start":505.219,"end":520.668,"text":"那哪個階段你們目前盤點哪個教育階段的學生就學校比較需要加強你們盤點起來這個部分可能有點難用單一的標準去判斷說是哪一個階段的學校比較需要加強比如說像大學的部分因為大學他們"},{"start":521.889,"end":544.762,"text":"大學的學校很大所以他們可能有很多的建築物那學生可能會覺得說我不是在每一個建築物我都可以收取到這樣的一個一個用品但是其實在大學裡面他可能實際上已經提供了很多只是說他建築物很多那以至於沒有辦法每個都可以提供那目前我們調查大學大概每個學校大概有8.6處的地方平均會有提供這樣的一個多元生理用品的"},{"start":545.382,"end":566.858,"text":"的一個措施這樣子那另外就是說現階段我們有針對不利處境的學生有提供這個取用的管道嘛那我想要關注的是說我們要怎麼樣確保這個領取機制下會變成另外一種形式的貧窮標籤來保障就是我們要怎麼樣保障學生的平等受教權跟他的身心健康"},{"start":569.568,"end":598.084,"text":"那個主席報告其實我們多元生理用品的取用有分兩種一種是定點緊急的取用他可能忘記帶那另外一種是不利學生我們可以幫助他但是我們需要就是希望可以去標籤化所以這個部分我們是免除說不要有登記制這樣子的一個行為那另外針對比如說像大學的部分我們會納在生活助學金裡面那針對生活助學金我們目前正在演繹看針對是只要是有領取生活助學金的女性的大學生"},{"start":598.484,"end":620.169,"text":"我們就是在增加相關的經費給他可以再去購置這樣的一個產品那也不會說讓其他人知道這樣子好 那一併要提到是說因為現行有規定學生可以請生理假可是實務上常發現第一線教師他要求學生要提出相關的證明或要列入病假扣分等等的狀況那當然這樣的做法當然是覺得非常不妥那也會貼上好像這個月經來可能作假的負面標籤"},{"start":626.531,"end":640.547,"text":"當然我覺得這是反映部分師生對於閱經知識的不足啦所以我想這個教育部我們這幾年辦相關的研習那我們對教職人員其實有一些相關知識的這個授予可是我覺得"},{"start":641.608,"end":652.89,"text":"該指示說這個月經教育的相關的業務的人而已像說他的處事的組長或者是這個領域的教師我覺得是不是針對每一位教職人員都應該具備這樣充分的知能我們才能對於這個月經教育有精進的作為委員的見解非常正確我們會朝這個方向來推動OK 好 謝謝次長 謝謝主席"},{"start":670.991,"end":671.893,"text":"谢谢我们01集"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:35:44.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:35:45.518000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請張廖次長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:35:45.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:35:45.899000+08:00","text":"有請次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:35:45.899000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:35:51.422000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:35:51.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:35:51.422000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:35:52.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:36:24.941000+08:00","text":"前年年底我們通過了學生輔導法的修正，進一步確認並健全了學生的輔導工作，本席看了教育部的書面報告，教育部說你們已經在學生輔導法第十三條規範學校應依課程綱要安排輔導相關課程及活動，同時要由該科專任教師或輔導教師授課，提供各級學校據以推動學生心理健康教育及三級輔導相關工作。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:36:25.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:37:06.097000+08:00","text":"針對我們今天談的學校衛生法，在本席的提案中有加入心理健康促進與基本知能教育的部分，本席首先要跟教育部及社會大眾釐清的是，心理健康的促進以及破除對心理疾病的污名，我覺得也是學校教育很重要的一環，因此在第十六條健康相關課程的開設中，本席認為除了既有的食農教育以外，心理健康的促進與基本知能的教育也應該要明文納入。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:37:07.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:37:24.571000+08:00","text":"其實本席是要特別強調所謂的知能教育就是沒有生病的學子，他不能對有疾病的人有污名的眼光，我們期待透過這樣的教育方式，對心理健康有更深刻的認識。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:37:27.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:38:15.044000+08:00","text":"不曉得次長你還記不記得在2021年公共政策網路參與平臺上，出現了一份讓社會矚目的提案，這個提案者是一名高中生，他所提的內容是國民中學健康與體育課綱應該分出精神、心理疾病教育的學習單元，那時候附議的人數很多，讓這個提案有通過，教育部那時候也有做出回應，當時的提案人說明他之所以會倡議課綱要納入心理教育，主要是想讓學生有機會認識情緒或者知道如何自我覺察和壓力的調節，未來才有足夠的知識來尋求專業的協助，才不會因為社會的異樣眼光而選擇獨自承受情緒的壓力。","quality":0.74},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:38:16.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:38:27.999000+08:00","text":"所謂社會的異樣眼光也就是我們要極力破除對疾病的污名，增加對精神疾患及精神官能症的認識。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:38:29.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:38:45.696000+08:00","text":"雖然我覺得學生輔導法有規範相關教育辦理的事項，可是在心理衛生這個部分，我覺得需要普羅大眾對消除精神疾病污名化有基本的認知。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:38:46.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:38:56.005000+08:00","text":"我說了那麼多，我想請教次長，做為教育主管機關，是不是應該要推行相關的教育並將其明確入法？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:38:56.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:38:57.905000+08:00","text":"對，謝謝委員的關心。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:38:58.505000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:39:13.949000+08:00","text":"在十二年國教課綱健康與體育的領域裡面，其實是各教育階段都已經系統性的含括了，包括飲食營養、規律運動以及委員所關心的心理健康，再到自我健康管理等核心的內容，每個教育階段都有。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:39:14.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:39:17.850000+08:00","text":"委員也關心既然有的話，那有沒有落實？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:39:17.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:39:39.458000+08:00","text":"我覺得現在是落實面的問題，也就是我們給予相關課綱推動的資源足不足、相關師資夠不夠專業、老師本身有沒有隨著社會氛圍的變化而能夠自我增能，有足夠的專業知識來輔導學生，我覺得這是比較重要的。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:39:40.618000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:39:43.860000+08:00","text":"至於細節的補充，我請署長再來提一下各階段的情形。好。","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"彭署長富源","start":"2026-03-25T10:39:45.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:39:54.574000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們從小一到高中有五大學習階段，小學有三個學習階段，您剛才提到的國中是第四學習階段，另外高中也有。","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"彭署長富源","start":"2026-03-25T10:39:56.196000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:40:16.257000+08:00","text":"這十二年五個學習階段在心理健康方面都有其要求的學習內容，委員剛才所提的必修課程這十二年都有，可是委員會想到與時俱進這一類，剛才次長也回應透過老師的進修、教材的研發或學群科中心或輔導團，我們會強化委員的提醒，謝謝。","quality":0.859},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:40:19.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:40:26.623000+08:00","text":"了解，我很清楚其實你們持續有將心理健康納入國教署健康與體育領域以及中央輔導團的年度計畫……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:40:26.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:40:27.063000+08:00","text":"在課綱推動的課程計畫裡面。","quality":0.417},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:40:27.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:40:41.231000+08:00","text":"對，可是次長，當你還是立委的時候，曾經質詢過潘文忠部長有關學生身心調適假的問題對不對？","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:40:42.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:12.010000+08:00","text":"其實這在大學跟高中都已經落實了，而層面更廣的心理知能教育，本席的法條所提到的是認識疾病、自我覺察及學會求助，甚至我剛剛強調的重點是讓沒有生病的孩子更認識心理衛生的議題，你覺得要怎麼樣把健康教育更落實在各級學校中？","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:12.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:19.713000+08:00","text":"如果把它明確入法，是不是會讓各級教育單位的遵守更加有強制力？","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:22.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:35.533000+08:00","text":"將來逐條討論的時候，其實我們可以進一步來談，就是要入法的部分會不會跟原來……其實我們現在都有在做，如果是在學校衛生法裡面要入法，那入法的部分是要強化哪一部分？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:35.813000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:39.337000+08:00","text":"會不會跟其他法令已經有規範的地方互相扞格？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:40.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:43.840000+08:00","text":"這些都可以討論，我們基本上採比較開放的態度。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:44.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:54.710000+08:00","text":"因為學生輔導法也規範得蠻多的，在細則裡面也有，委員的一些版本其實在細則裡面也可以修，但是不是一定要入法？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:54.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:41:55.490000+08:00","text":"這真的可以討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:41:56.991000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:42:33.955000+08:00","text":"另外，今天很多同仁關心的就是所謂消弭月經貧窮的議題，其實上一屆本席跟很多同仁就開始倡議，教育部也開始實施友善提供多元生理用品計畫，不過現在實施將近三年，公民團體有指出一些部分，就是有部分學校還是有生理用品取用不便、宣導不足或品項太單一的這些問題，以及有些學生要向老師請生理假有被刁難的狀況。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:42:33.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:42:41.460000+08:00","text":"所以我覺得為了精進這項政策，本席那時候就有寫過預算提案去要求教育部改善。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:42:42.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:42:58.548000+08:00","text":"這次我們針對學校衛生法來修法，本席的版本也有把各級主管機關應協助各級學校備置多元生理用品，以及加強校園中的月經教育，我覺得是不是把相關的文字寫進來？","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:42:58.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:02.090000+08:00","text":"就是有明確的法源依據。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:03.350000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:10.917000+08:00","text":"針對現行的多元生理用品政策，不曉得教育部有沒有盤點現在各級學校的實施狀況？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:11.979000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:16.224000+08:00","text":"哪個教育階段的學校比較需要加強？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:16.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:21.931000+08:00","text":"或者對於我們怎麼樣增加可近性，教育部有沒有什麼明確的改善措施？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:21.931000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:26.820000+08:00","text":"我請代理司長說明。好。","quality":0.222},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:26.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:43:49.110000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，關於跟公民團體溝通的部分，這兩年我們都有持續跟他們溝通，所以他們提出很多寶貴的建議，包括剛剛委員提到很多學生不知道，所以我們在115年修正參考指引之後，我們在上面有明確規範學校應該要上網公告學校放置多元生理用品地點的地圖，這樣可以增進學生知悉的權利。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:43:49.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:44:04.679000+08:00","text":"另外，我們也要求學校提供多元生理用品，衛生棉是一定要的，至於其他的部分，包括像月經杯等等的，我們希望學校也要提供，另外也要設置專責的管理人，透過多元制度來協助學校落實這樣的政策。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:44:06.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:44:11.063000+08:00","text":"你們目前盤點起來，哪個教育階段的學校比較需要加強？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:44:12.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:44:37.298000+08:00","text":"這個部分可能有點難用單一的標準去判斷哪一個階段的學校比較需要加強，比如像大學的部分，因為大學的校園很大，所以他們有很多的建築物，學生可能會覺得不是在每一個建築物都可以索取到這樣的用品，但是其實在大學裡面，他們可能實際上已經提供了很多，只是因為建築物很多，以致沒有辦法每個都可以提供。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:44:37.838000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:44:44.582000+08:00","text":"目前我們調查大學之後，每個學校平均大概有8.6處的地方會提供這樣的多元生理用品。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:44:47.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:45:01.834000+08:00","text":"另外，現階段我們有針對不利處境學生提供取用的管道，但我想要關注的是，我們要怎麼樣確保在這個領取機制之下，不會變成另外一種形式的貧窮標籤？","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:45:02.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:45:06.838000+08:00","text":"就是我們要怎麼樣保障學生的平等受教權跟他的身心健康？","quality":1},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:45:10.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:45:26.317000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們多元生理用品的取用有分兩種，一種是定點緊急的取用，因為他可能忘記帶；另外一種是針對不利處境學生，我們可以協助他，但是我們希望可以去標籤化，所以這個部分我們是有免除登記制的行為。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"許代理司長嘉倩","start":"2026-03-25T10:45:26.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:45:46.066000+08:00","text":"另外，對於大學的部分，我們會納在生活助學金裡面，針對生活助學金，我們目前正在研議，只要是有領取生活助學金的女性大學生，我們就再增加相關的經費給他，讓他可以再去購置這樣的產品，也不會讓其他人知道。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:45:47.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:10.356000+08:00","text":"一併要提到的是，因為現行有規定學生可以請生理假，可是實務上常發現第一線教師要求學生要提出相關證明或要列入病假扣分等等的狀況，這樣的做法當然是覺得非常不妥，也會貼上好像月經來可能作假的負面標籤，當然，我覺得這是反映部分師生對於月經知識的不足。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:11.317000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:29.489000+08:00","text":"我想教育部這幾年有辦相關的研習，我們對教職人員其實有一些相關知識的授予，可是我覺得不該只及於月經教育相關的業務人員而已，像是處室的組長或是這領域的教師，我覺得是不是針對每一位教職人員都應該具備這樣充分的知能？","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:29.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:31.690000+08:00","text":"如此我們對於月經教育才能有精進的作為。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:31.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:32.650000+08:00","text":"委員的見解非常正確，我們會朝這個方向來推動。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:32.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:32.870000+08:00","text":"OK，謝謝次長、謝謝主席。謝謝。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:33.370000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:36.227143+08:00","text":"謝謝林宜瑾委員的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:36.527143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:38.812857+08:00","text":"我們現在休息5分鐘。","quality":0.125},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:39.112857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:40.255714+08:00","text":"休息（10時46分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:40.555714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:42.270000+08:00","text":"繼續開會（10時53分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:42.570000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:44.284286+08:00","text":"現在繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T10:46:44.584286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T10:46:48.012857+08:00","text":"請伍麗華委員進行詢答，謝謝。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}