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我待會也會有個案來跟部長討論那目前就是說我們是不是起碼首先我們趕快衛福部來協助地方政府來盤點目前設有的這個幼兒園的這個學校那畢竟你如果從這個幼兒園或者是其他類似可行方便讓這個學校學習的這個年齡可以向下延伸的"},{"start":336.617,"end":358.434,"text":"也就是說學校如果已經有設置幼兒園的那我們中央是不是同步來協助讓他再設置這個托嬰中心那或者其實我們在偏鄉有些也是結合教會或者結合有一些關懷據點或者是文化健康站"},{"start":359.395,"end":382.924,"text":"那他們的那個地點其實有時候是一個多功能的一個場域這些會節省很多的經費跟時間所以這個部分請你們立刻來協助盤點再來就是說目前我們台東設置的幼兒園學校有37所其實也不是很多"},{"start":384.344,"end":397.759,"text":"目前這個分布我們今天沒有特別準備但你們要了解一下因為幼兒園搞不好分布也是跟托嬰中心有可能也是一樣都很不平均所以我們就協助地方盤點這個托嬰的需求"},{"start":400.602,"end":415.456,"text":"盤點這個需求之後呢例如開辦費啊或者其他相關的費用也希望讓中央來全力的來協助讓我們台東每一個這個鄉鎮都有一個基本"},{"start":415.996,"end":432.932,"text":"的這個托育的這個服務讓我們年輕的這些夫妻可以感生讓年輕人願意留在台東那也在這邊特別提醒一下因為目前大家要看一下所有的這個中心"},{"start":434.053,"end":455.925,"text":"全部都集中在台東市那一個在京豐那我們試想一下好了我們如果今天是從海端鄉出發到台東那也要耗掉超過一個小時吧那蘭嶼更不用講難道還要坐船把嬰兒送到台東市來嗎那我最後我就提一個個案"},{"start":457.216,"end":482.945,"text":"像剛剛提到的部長也說盡量來全力來協助台東這個問題台東的托嬰中心是嚴重不足那我們來看一下池上鄉公所他們把舊的幼兒園準備翻修改成托嬰中心可是鄉公所在規劃建置的過程當中也因為之前在野黨"},{"start":484.005,"end":512.11,"text":"修正這個財化法導致財力分級調整之後中央對地方的補助跟比例也調整了那池上鄉的這個托嬰中心就受到很大的衝擊當然現在的問題是說好即便這個縣府可能在今年有多一點的補助但是縣府願不願意把這個補助給特定的這個鄉鎮"},{"start":513.89,"end":527.586,"text":"好 這個是不好說的這個就要看縣長 看縣府團隊的意願那他們有他們的考量所以這個部分池上鄉公所它是依照衛福部去年公告的計畫內容"},{"start":528.507,"end":543.987,"text":"台東縣政府有幫鄉公所在去年9月是送案了那我在去年也向衛福部有關心的這個案子那整個這個建置這個整建的計畫總共1519萬元社家署已經在去年有合併補助1440萬元"},{"start":545.99,"end":564.368,"text":"好但是這樣的高興只持續了一個禮拜因為在1月7號行政院依據這個我剛剛提了在野黨修正才化法內容之後呢把這個台東的這個財力分級列為第一之後呢自籌款本來從5%提高到30%"},{"start":565.629,"end":581.912,"text":"那公所呢原本只要自籌79萬現在變成455萬那這個對公所的這個比例上的提高財政影響就非常大因為他未必是縣府的優先選擇那這個就好像有一個人我們"},{"start":582.853,"end":612.513,"text":"我們如果說店家在這個店家的價目表我已經下定買了一個100塊的東西那店家也把發票給他了結果交貨的時候都抱歉現在要五百塊這個是一個很奇怪的邏輯所以池上鄉拖音中心的這個情形是不是可以能夠拜託部長這邊就是說不需要再重新提報行政院然後仍然可以按照原本的比例來補助鄉公所這個部分也希望部長可以支持"},{"start":615.254,"end":636.904,"text":"確實這個台東因為這個新的財化法修正之後造成他的那個財力等級被變到第一級所以造成那個統籌分配款上明顯的減少不過我們會考慮到這個醫療相關的資源的這個分配程度我們會來重新思考所以委員的建議我們會來"},{"start":638.204,"end":648.711,"text":"來研究好 那也希望在最短的時間有好的答案對 讓這個工程已經核定的不要受到影響是 好 謝謝好 謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝陳英武委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:09:47.589000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:09:49.934000+08:00","text":"麻煩請石崇良部長。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T13:09:49.934000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:09:51.957000+08:00","text":"有請石部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:09:51.957000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:09:56.626000+08:00","text":"陳委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:09:56.626000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:10:17.299000+08:00","text":"我們先看一下，按照社家署整理提供的資料，臺東托嬰中心的服務量能是相當嚴重不足的，我們臺東有16個鄉鎮，目前只有2個鄉鎮有托嬰中心。","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:10:18.540000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:10:39.319000+08:00","text":"臺東育嬰的生活形態，如果是跟都會區比較的話，看起來似乎是家庭照顧方式的比例比較高，也就是說父母請假或者是離職自己帶小孩，或者是阿公、阿媽幫忙帶。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:10:40.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:10:58.998000+08:00","text":"如果看到這個統計資料最左邊這一欄0到2歲的人數，2歲以下的嬰幼兒，每一個鄉鎮都有好幾十個，甚至上百個，所以每一個鄉鎮，甚至臺東市最多，都會有托嬰的需求。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:10:59.979000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:11:34.046000+08:00","text":"如果把臺東托嬰服務的量能跟人口相近的臺北市中山區來比較，臺東市0到2歲的嬰幼兒有2,425位，臺北市中山區2,325個，臺北市中山區的托嬰中心卻有34間。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:11:34.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:11:57.193000+08:00","text":"臺東全縣大概有一百七十幾公里，將近200公里長，全縣也只有11間，臺北市中山區托嬰中心可收托的人數是臺東全縣的三倍，這就是臺東托嬰中心嚴重不足的情形。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:11:57.793000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:12:10.096000+08:00","text":"我們換算一下，臺東托嬰其實不到一成，但是臺北市中山區就可以將近五成。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:12:13.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:12:29.625000+08:00","text":"而且臺東托嬰的地點，不管公私立，幾乎都集中在臺東市區，金峰鄉也才在去年成立一間而已，我有去參加他們開幕。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:12:31.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:12:53.121000+08:00","text":"我在這邊要請教部長，面對臺東托嬰中心分布嚴重不足，服務量能跟都會區落差很明顯的情形，中央到底要怎麼樣協助地方強化托育資源的設點跟服務的覆蓋，讓我們各鄉鎮都有基本的托育支持？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:12:53.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:13:38.963000+08:00","text":"在你回答之前，我要特別強調一件事，雖然我們現在都在鼓勵年輕人生育，我們給了生育補助，但是生完，孩子慢慢長大，在成長的過程當中，你不能讓這些嬰兒、幼兒沒有地方去，沒有機會被托嬰，因為這會影響到在社會當中承載著要賺錢養家、養父母還要養小孩的這一群中堅分子，變成我就算拿到生育獎金又如何呢？","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:13:39.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:13:43.427000+08:00","text":"我接下來也沒有辦法出去工作，因為我要留下來顧我的孩子啊。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:13:44.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:01.182000+08:00","text":"所以政府要鼓勵生育，其實應該要一條龍，要全面性，面面都要俱到，不然到這個環節，獎勵生完之後，那養是一回事啊。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:03.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:11.391000+08:00","text":"我們先不要檢討到後面，0到2歲光托嬰這個，所以我說臺東為什麼超級可憐，才不到一成。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:12.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:16.415000+08:00","text":"這真的很誇張，今天統計起來，部長覺得這樣的分布是合理的嗎？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:18.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:21.585000+08:00","text":"確實有可以再提升的地方啦，所以我們來看看。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:22.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:41.123000+08:00","text":"雖然過去對於偏鄉資源不夠的地方都是優先補助，但是我們來研究看看，對於這些更偏鄉的地方，把補助的金額提高一些，來創造誘因，這個我們來研究一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:41.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:44.645000+08:00","text":"好，我待會也會有個案來跟部長討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:46.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:14:58.271000+08:00","text":"目前是不是起碼首先衛福部趕快協助地方政府，盤點目前設有幼兒園的學校？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:14:59.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:15:19.864000+08:00","text":"畢竟如果從幼兒園或者是其他類似可行方便，讓學校學習的年齡可以向下延伸，也就是說學校如果已經有設置幼兒園的，中央是不是同步協助讓它再設置托嬰中心？","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:15:20.925000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:15:33.414000+08:00","text":"或者在偏鄉其實有些也是結合教會，或者結合一些關懷據點，或者是文化健康站。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:15:34.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:15:49.400000+08:00","text":"他們的地點有時候是一個多功能的場域，會節省很多的經費跟時間，這部分請你們立刻來協助盤點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:15:49.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:15:57.904000+08:00","text":"再來就是，目前我們臺東設置的幼兒園學校有37所，其實也不是很多啦。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:15:59.344000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:16:12.739000+08:00","text":"目前這個分布，我們今天沒有特別準備，但你們要了解一下，因為幼兒園的分布搞不好跟托嬰中心有可能也是一樣，都很不平均，所以我們就協助地方盤點托嬰的需求。","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:16:15.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:16:39.124000+08:00","text":"盤點需求之後呢，例如開辦費，或者其他相關的費用，也希望中央全力來協助，讓我們臺東每一個鄉鎮都有一個基本的托育服務，讓年輕的夫妻敢生，讓年輕人願意留在臺東。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:16:41.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:16:52.515000+08:00","text":"也在這邊特別提醒，大家要看一下，目前所有中心全部都集中在臺東市，一個在金峰。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:16:53.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:17:07.683000+08:00","text":"我們試想一下好了，如果今天是從海端鄉出發到臺東，也要耗掉超過一個小時，蘭嶼更不用講，難道還要坐船把嬰兒送到臺東市來嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:17:09.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:17:21.519000+08:00","text":"最後我就提一個個案，像剛剛提到的，部長也說儘量全力協助臺東這個問題。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:17:21.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:17:31.623000+08:00","text":"臺東的托嬰中心嚴重不足，我們來看一下池上鄉公所，他們把舊的幼兒園準備翻修改成托嬰中心。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:17:32.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:17:50.927000+08:00","text":"可是鄉公所在規劃建置的過程當中，也因為之前在野黨修正財劃法，導致財力分級調整之後，中央對地方的補助跟比例也調整了，池上鄉這個托嬰中心就受到很大的衝擊。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:17:53.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:18:17.500000+08:00","text":"現在的問題是，即便縣府今年可能有多一點的補助，但是縣府願不願意把這個補助給特定的鄉鎮，這個是不好說的，就要看縣長、看縣府團隊的意願，他們有他們的考量。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:18:19.783000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:18:30.937000+08:00","text":"池上鄉公所是依照衛福部去年公告的計畫內容，臺東縣政府有幫鄉公所在去年9月送案，我在去年也有向衛福部關心這個案子。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:18:34.221000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:18:38.967000+08:00","text":"這個整建計畫總共1,519萬元，社家署已經在去年核定補助1,440萬元。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:18:41.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:05.316000+08:00","text":"但是這樣的高興只持續了一個禮拜，因為在1月7日行政院依據我剛剛提的，在野黨修正財劃法內容，把臺東的財力分級列為第一之後，自籌款從本來5%提高到30%，公所原本只要自籌79萬元，現在變成455萬元。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:07.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:14.508000+08:00","text":"這個比例上的提高，對公所的財政影響就非常大，因為它未必是縣府的優先選擇。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:14.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:28.620000+08:00","text":"這就好像有一個人看店家的價目表，已經下訂買了一個100元的東西，店家還把發票給他了，結果交貨的時候，歹勢，現在要500元！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:30.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:32.243000+08:00","text":"這是一個很奇怪的邏輯啦。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:32.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:45.311000+08:00","text":"所以池上鄉托嬰中心的情形，是不是拜託部長，不需要再重新提報行政院，仍然可以按照原本的比例補助鄉公所？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:45.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:19:47.493000+08:00","text":"這個部分希望部長可以支持。好。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:19:50.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:01.939000+08:00","text":"確實臺東因為新的財劃法修正之後，造成它的財力等級被編到第一級，所以造成統籌分配款上明顯的減少。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:02.219000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:13.444000+08:00","text":"不過我們會考慮到醫療相關資源的豐沛程度，會來重新思考，所以委員的建議我們會來研究，讓它能夠……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:14.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:16.806000+08:00","text":"好，也希望在最短的時間有好的答案。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:18.027000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:21.389000+08:00","text":"對，讓這個工程已經核定的，不要受到影響。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:21.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:21.770000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:22.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:22.470000+08:00","text":"謝謝，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:22.470000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:23.711000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝陳瑩委員。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:24.211000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:33.925286+08:00","text":"本日會議詢答全部結束，委員柯志恩、范雲、徐欣瑩所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員柯志恩書面質詢","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:34.225286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:20:50.796714+08:00","text":"一、《兒童及少年福利與權益保障法》（以下簡稱兒少法）第三條明定，父母或監護人對兒少負有保護教養之責，且有配合主管機關各項措施之義務。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員柯志恩書面質詢","start":"2026-03-25T13:20:51.096714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:21:22.811000+08:00","text":"然而，現行實務上，當學生發生重大違規、霸凌甚至觸法行為時，學校依據「學校訂定教師輔導與管教學生辦法注意事項」要求家長到校配合輔導，卻常遭遇家長採取「不讀不回」、「拒絕出席」或「推諉責任」的消極態度，導致學校輔導措施難以有效執行，亦使學生錯失即時矯正之機會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員柯志恩書面質詢","start":"2026-03-25T13:21:23.111000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:21:30.539571+08:00","text":"請問，主管機關對於家長不配合學校輔導之現行處理機制為何？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員柯志恩書面質詢","start":"2026-03-25T13:21:30.839571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T13:21:33.982429+08:00","text":"是否具備足夠法律強制力？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員柯志恩書面質詢","start":"2026-03-25T13:21:3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