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以台灣產業經濟發展的角度讓台灣的家熱於去打世界的市場"},{"start":404.195,"end":418.76,"text":"那我為什麼一直談這個因為台灣的電子業非常發達所以這個加熱魚的時候跟台灣的電子產業有關係你不要看我吃飯報告院長 那個市場很大我們台灣的魚品市場一年大概有兩千億的規模"},{"start":424.946,"end":444.557,"text":"那加熱菸的話大概有五百億的規模這可以一二十億、三四十億美金在外面去爭奪市場我相信給台灣一個機會會打出很漂亮的成績所以現在我們台灣只有被美商、日商來獨佔"},{"start":446.818,"end":473.188,"text":"台灣的加熱儀沒有加速機會這主要原因在於全世界只有美國跟台灣要求加熱儀上市以前要提供健康風險的評估審查只有美國、台灣、日本沒有這樣我們最崇拜的日本沒有這個要求因為以下的防治法規定製造外銷不然現在說的外銷"},{"start":475.104,"end":503.68,"text":"也要經過健康風險的評估這樣的規模這樣的做法看起來也先進啦但是我要說我們自綁手腳我要懷疑政府的作為為什麼給美商給日商進來台灣已久公司幾十年的老公司台灣的電子業那麼強壯那麼強盛在要賣東西賣不回來大家都找不到你們要健康風險評估是怎樣"},{"start":504.84,"end":529.255,"text":"請你把美國跟日本的健康風險評估給我們參考一下你們也不送我不曉得你們的態度是怎麼樣那為什麼一直在強調好啦不要抽煙毒害台灣人日本美國的加熱煙能到台灣來毒害台灣人好你們允許他我不要在台灣做我外銷可以吧"},{"start":530.27,"end":537.69,"text":"我們這個思維的觀念要改啦因為這個市場太大了不亞於電子的市場我跟你講"},{"start":538.885,"end":560.064,"text":"啊你看法怎樣?你上一次說講,叫他們加油那台語公司特別感謝喔因為關於昨天沒有人敢講話,我敢講話他們非常感謝喔,說我真正把他們的聲音發聲出來連竹政黨的都不敢講大家都默默委屈,我覺得不能容許這樣的情形在台灣發生"},{"start":561.425,"end":578.037,"text":"你看我怎麼樣我第一遍講啊好 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立法委員沒有什麼職權你們都不了解 我當過省議員才了解這個現象委員你說到很重的重點沒有沒有 我不能亂講我只是把我真實的狀況給大家了解地方現場的實權都比較大"},{"start":1345.565,"end":1371.764,"text":"大家稍微調整一下能互相滿足對方大家照著這個程序來進行現在講到什麼都是財政收支方法進退兩難好不好一起努力來解決謝謝部長謝謝委員的關心我想這個教育這個我們會努力我相信你你的台語講得很好請回座再來交通部還有時間"},{"start":1384.261,"end":1405.594,"text":"好 我們年輕又英俊的陳部長那我很遺憾 我本來對你帶著一個期盼跟期待房地交流道雖然公路級已經合訂了但是你合訂的公文合得不甘不厭的樣子當然看起來是財政措施或分化的影響"},{"start":1406.534,"end":1433.115,"text":"你說那個聯絡道路都要全部我們來負擔以前你們去幾個部長從你們當交通部長每一個答應苗栗縣財政困難我們會全力支持我們前額負擔來跟你出來都翻盤了我告訴你 我要很相信你我說你沿途給我觀賞你給我寫那本文我看到很傷心我覺得我不怎麼信任你啦"},{"start":1434.124,"end":1450.042,"text":"報告委員你說的這個院裡這個交流道的部分在您的關心之下我也已經簽合這個沒有問題但確實我們交通部包含公路局所未來可以支應的這個公件的預算其實是降低了不少在整個財政收支劃分法之後"},{"start":1450.683,"end":1478.476,"text":"那您剛剛也有提到一個重點就是說現在縣府的能量其實加大很多中央的政府其實我們能夠給地方的錢就少了所以這個部分我們如果能負擔我們當然會協助但我們目前看起來是無法負擔所以交流道的部分全額我們會來處理我知道交流道全額你的聯絡道路土地徵收要我們那我土地徵收我們來出那聯絡道路中央吃一半我們苗栗吃一半"},{"start":1479.236,"end":1491.301,"text":"我去協調溝通不然我也不知道你核定下來會完成或不完成那差很多啦我們研究一下啦但是聯絡到的部分因為你常常去可是你猶豫不猶騙啦你應該要做出來給他們看啦好不好謝謝啦感謝你也對台中這部份講一條台中也應得到一條聯絡道路土地費用苗栗縣政府來支出"},{"start":1508.729,"end":1521.394,"text":"但是連絡道路的工程費用 個人負擔一半好嗎 答應下來這樣要求 拜託你跟我講幾十年都說好 現在土壤翻了 民主要發財我答應說閘道這部問題 但是連絡道的部分 這經費我們再來討論好 一定一人一半 我算這樣很虛弱"},{"start":1533.999,"end":1552.393,"text":"答應下來 還有我提出三百話這個也很重要 為人民的不改革從到現在第七屆到現在十幾年我都一二十年都在談這台電只有談文跟大山還沒有"},{"start":1554.074,"end":1568.102,"text":"雙軌化還有白沙屯跟新埔沒有雙軌化通宵到宴旅沒有雙軌化但是日蘭跟大甲好像是走了所謂台商重要苗栗不重要都一直拖延到現在"},{"start":1569.422,"end":1593.286,"text":"這農莊的經費只有六十幾億農莊十五點九公里這三個地段你遲早把它打通啊你南部什麼捷運啊什麼一發都七百億七百億才六十幾億七十億而已啊報告委員這個部分我也很關心因為這個價位是因為檀紋一直到我們台中的追分啦到大陸的那堆分所以我們是整個大陸在討論這個雙軌化的部分因為這個大陸如果雙軌化我們整個運量可以大幅度提升"},{"start":1598.487,"end":1599.487,"text":"我們的計畫是從談文一直到台中的對婚"},{"start":1625.143,"end":1635.051,"text":"所以是幾大作會啦 不是只說台中喔 是幾大作會是幾大作一會兒就好 要趕快來做啦我們現在在中規規劃跟環評的階段幾大都要做 即是現在在中規跟環評的階段中規跟環評的階段走過了 幾大作會要做"},{"start":1648.488,"end":1666.906,"text":"這又要一段時間,因為這段是卡在台中那邊,還有一些界面,譬如台中那邊跟沙陸火車站,這邊要怎麼吃跟他們的捷運怎麼吃,還有一些界面在討論,不然我們會中規和環評,我們也希望快一點這樣你的意思是台中好,到外面比較妙妙,妙妙感冒犯法,我們說台中要給台中"},{"start":1669.447,"end":1679.391,"text":"這是講一個假話台中為重要分秒就管不重要因為它是同一個計畫在同一個計畫裡面一起做最後一個問題燕尼火車站你也去那個雙軌化那個跨戰士的夜台 歐益政府你就很窮算是答應我要納入這個雙軌化計畫裡面又沒有"},{"start":1694.091,"end":1708.803,"text":"納入裡面 現在要把它納入的時候要再重新計畫要來改變我看你們有沒有附帶測試把驗療的專規化那個跨戰式的液體把它完成因為它都變很熱鬧"},{"start":1711.511,"end":1734.027,"text":"西邊的話很冷漠 靠近海邊的地方就是這條鐵路隔絕在那邊發展起來完全不一樣那西邊的話 包括苗栗縣族一大片的土地放置在那邊 也就沒有什麼發展如果這邊把它做起來的話我相信對西邊的 因為你鄉親啦發展的機會就比較大"},{"start":1735.305,"end":1757.843,"text":"你知道這個嗎?報告委員,這我還沒去看過,但是你這樣說是讓你東西邊兩邊要合在一起,但是如果你要說...擴散式的月台,還有電梯就好擴散式月台,我們可以討論...不然你那條沒有三軌化後沒辦法,因為我了解大概地方的情形不然你就把它繞一圈嘛,改變路線也可以"},{"start":1759.827,"end":1781.889,"text":"沒關係,我來了解一下好,我們專案來了解,這樣好,我拜託你你眼睛又笑臉,一定要幫忙你每次到苗栗縣我就噼噼聲你都去替我拉,不是拉給我的票,拉北省的票啊我這個帳沒有算,用這個來補一補好不好是好,謝謝我執行結束了好,謝謝陳委員"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}