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我們有的資源跟籌碼相對比較多"},{"start":213.669,"end":233.041,"text":"所以為什麼提這個議題我希望說CPTPP是對台灣未來的這個在國際社會上的關鍵的一個重要的經貿力量所以勢必在最短的時間能夠加入當然政治因素我們當然了解都是中國的因素但是可操是在我們的我們一定要全力以赴"},{"start":234.642,"end":258.177,"text":"所以我是拜託院長可以折成兩個部組成一個非常堅強的團隊對每個所有的會員國每個動態都能夠充分掌握我作為一個促進會的會長八年我這個全部都自費去所以下個月我還去找新加坡的這個同大使然後這個越南的劉大使就針對這一題去做深入討論"},{"start":259.625,"end":274.917,"text":"所以我希望說能夠在行政院的高度能夠全力重視整合外交部跟經濟部的資源能夠在今年能夠達成最起碼成立台灣的陸會工作小組陸會工作小組成立之後我們第一步就踏出去"},{"start":276.84,"end":290.841,"text":"這個請教一下謝謝委員提到奧克蘭山原則您也提到現在我們所剩的就是最後這個會員國的共識部分那我們也必須承認這當中存在的很多外交以及政治上的阻力"},{"start":291.502,"end":312.276,"text":"但是我們在面對所有的我們領先相信國家的各種訪問交流就外賓來訪過程當中我們一再期待能夠協助我們那雖然CPTPP從它主導的國家美國日本的變化但是不為影響我們講進入這個國際經合組織最大的一個目的所以我們會極力的爭取但是我也必須承認"},{"start":313.697,"end":338.766,"text":"現在的一年多一年以來我們真的把重兵壓在對美談判所以我們CPP的過程當中我們真的我們是沒有在這一年當中有比較隨便的進展那現在談判已經到了最關鍵的最後階段我會請經濟部以及我們的整個談判工作團隊再把CPP重要的工作再做時程上的安排我們來設定時程設定目標分頭進行我們有只有12個會員國裡面"},{"start":340.567,"end":364.421,"text":"其中有民主國家民主陣營的就這個我剛剛說的這幾個國家然後日本台日友好日本可以幫台灣做很多事情加上今年的優勢在越南所以我期待這個12個應該很精準的工作目標工作期間設立起來然後進破定能也會全力來協助這個工作是不是要請林部長說明一下現在對外的工作"},{"start":365.958,"end":376.696,"text":"報告委員現在CPT力量是12個國家我們大概對美國國家的立場都有掌握確實如委員講的必須集中力量"},{"start":377.762,"end":401.252,"text":"然後針對尤其是主席國能不能突破奧克蘭三原則讓我們成立台灣陸會的工作小組那以越南來說因為台商在那邊投資很多那我們跟他交流也非常的頻繁所以確實今年會是一個機會因為再來的幾年的主席國會是沒有像越南這樣子相對的"},{"start":403.633,"end":421.452,"text":"目前這個今年越南是我們可以把握的這個戰略機遇期所以我提出這個議題就是希望說從行政院要整合兩個部的資源要全力達陣這個是在人為啊而且把握時機啊把我可操之在我的資源全部壓上去"},{"start":422.637,"end":447.086,"text":"好謝謝委員提醒行政院一定會立即訂定一個剛剛說設定時程設定目標由各部份頭進行的工作的一個team我們全力來完成爭取從立法院的角度我們也全力協助像我這個協會不是我全力以赴只要有需要立法院支持的我們都自費去去跟他們國會做相關討論像日本我去日本國會針對CPTPP最起碼去了四次以上"},{"start":448.936,"end":476.633,"text":"就是讓他們感動就是說不是讓他們理解說台灣是非常重視不管是行政部門或者是這個立法院好 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我們已經送到行政院目前行政院正在審核當中"},{"start":920.069,"end":924.536,"text":"我希望這個能夠也許通車的時候我可能已經這個70幾歲了"},{"start":929.633,"end":930.574,"text":"我會請我們業務單位跟工程會加速來審慎"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:37.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:41.825000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請行政院卓院長、外交部林部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:41.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.367000+08:00","text":"麻煩再請卓院長、教育部部長備詢。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.847000+08:00","text":"外交部林部長……","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.847000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.847000+08:00","text":"外交部……","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:44.927000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:48.039000+08:00","text":"龔部長，還有國防部……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:48.039000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:49.039000+08:00","text":"對不起，邱志偉委員……","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:48.219000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:50.440000+08:00","text":"徐副部長……","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:50.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:50.600000+08:00","text":"時間暫停一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:50.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:54.042000+08:00","text":"我們硬體設備就是3位委員，不要超過這個，好嗎……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:54.042000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:55.342000+08:00","text":"好，那就先請國防……就是……","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:57.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:17:59.484000+08:00","text":"請林部長跟龔部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:17:59.484000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:00.284000+08:00","text":"對，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:00.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:06.507000+08:00","text":"好，麻煩請院長備詢，外交部、經濟部部長，兩位部長請備詢。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:06.507000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:07.147000+08:00","text":"謝謝邱委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:07.147000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:09.448000+08:00","text":"部長辛苦了，行政團隊也很辛苦了。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:10.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:31.545000+08:00","text":"第一個議題想請教卓院長跟行政團隊，就是關於CPTPP，過去8年我擔任立法院CPTPP促進會的會長，這個不是虛的，這是很務實的，所以12個會員國裡面我去過加拿大、我去過秘魯，秘魯還去過兩次，當然幾個重要的國家我們都有掌握。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:32.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:18:45.650000+08:00","text":"民主陣營大概就是英國、加拿大，然後是紐、澳；在東南亞的部分，越南、馬來西亞、汶萊跟新加坡，加上南美洲的智利跟秘魯。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:18:51.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:19:14.065000+08:00","text":"今年會員國的執委會是在越南召開、在越南召開，對我們是非常關鍵入會的一年，2021年我開完記者會之後，老共馬上就提入會申請，那我們晚了幾天，但是2021到現在，這個完全沒有成立入會工作小組。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:19:14.065000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:19:41.596000+08:00","text":"我覺得這個要從行政院的高度結合外交部，因為外交部有駐外館處，然後加上經濟組，全力去跟所有的目前12個會員國，請他們理解臺灣已經完全達成奧克蘭三原則，也有能力履行國際貿易的相關承諾，而且所有的規範都達到高標準，欠缺的就是12個會員國的共識，這個共識是要慢慢累積而成的。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:19:42.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:19:56.038000+08:00","text":"所以我今年年初又去秘魯，我跟大使討論過，大使認為秘魯可能會支持，雙向支持，這個應該是由外交部或者經濟部去跟外館做一個確認。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:19:56.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:20:02.159000+08:00","text":"下個月我還要去新加坡、還要再去越南，為什麼越南很重要？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:20:03.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:20:37.599000+08:00","text":"越南是我們南向政策最主要的國家，這也是賴總統「經濟日不落國」的一個概念，也是林部長你所提出的「榮邦計畫」與「三鏈計畫」裡面重要的內涵國家，所以如果能夠利用越南當輪值主席國，在召開執委會會議的時候，越南願意幫臺灣，加上日本的力量，臺日友好，日本一定要全力支持，如果日本全力支持，加上地主國也願意在議程安排上面更為友善。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:20:38.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:20:55.412000+08:00","text":"你看，在臺越合作當中，我們可以幫助他們技術升級，也能幫助他們做產業鏈的提升，也能用科技做投資，所以我們在臺越關係中擁有的資源、籌碼相對比較多。","quality":0.859},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:20:57.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:21:08.836000+08:00","text":"我提這個議題是因為CPTPP對臺灣而言是未來在國際社會上一個關鍵、重要的經貿力量，所以勢必要在最短時間內加入。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:21:10.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:21:16.021000+08:00","text":"政治因素方面，我們當然瞭解就是中國的因素，但是可操之在我的部分，我們一定要全力以赴。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:21:17.642000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:21:26.968000+08:00","text":"所以我拜託院長可以責成兩個部組成一個非常堅強的團隊，對所有會員國的每一個動態都充分掌握。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:21:27.948000+08:00","gue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,"start":"2026-03-27T15:25:21.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:25:33.169000+08:00","text":"FOIP當然是從安倍前首相2007年提到的，但具體有很多做法需要幾個主要國家合作，包括美國、澳洲跟印度。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:25:33.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:25:55.119000+08:00","text":"臺灣是一個戰略的核心，具有地緣政治的重要性，又是世界的晶片製造中心，我們既有地緣上的優勢，也有經濟上的優勢，所以臺灣是FOIP裡面重要的核心，我們如何以臺灣的角度來參與FOIP？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:25:55.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:26:05.043000+08:00","text":"這不是一個概念的建構而已，而是已經進入實質的合作階段，包括經濟的合作也好、外交的合作也好，甚至國防安全上的合作也好。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:26:06.824000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:26:28.880000+08:00","text":"所以我想請教徐副部長，臺日友好，我們跟日本的外交關係非常好、經濟關係非常好、人民關係也非常好，未來有沒有可能臺日在安全上面有更多的合作空間，甚至在國防的合作上面有沒有可能性？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"徐副部長斯儉","start":"2026-03-27T15:26:31.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:26:47.834000+08:00","text":"報告委員，委員這個設想真的是非常好，的確臺灣在第一島鏈的核心，對整個印太區域而言，都是非常關鍵的，臺海一旦有事，不只日本有事，整個第一島鏈甚至印太都得有事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐副部長斯儉","start":"2026-03-27T15:26:49.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:01.421000+08:00","text":"至於臺日之間的安全合作，首先，現在日本的國會議員跟我們立院的執政同仁之間有了二加二這個對話，已經一個……","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:01.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:09.748000+08:00","text":"這個只是戰略對話而已，我是指更實質上不管是科技或者技術的合作，有沒有可能用日澳模式？","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:10.589000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:16.120000+08:00","text":"日本跟澳洲共同興建驅逐艦，為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:16.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:23.747000+08:00","text":"因為日本有造艦的技術，所以澳洲需要，澳洲也是印太安全重要的成員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:23.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:29.011000+08:00","text":"我們可不可能用日澳的模式，在國防製造武器方面有更多的合作？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"徐副部長斯儉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:30.932000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:49.726000+08:00","text":"我想我們臺灣現在在無人系統製造上面是相當不錯的，我們臺灣的無人系統其實已經成為許多國際無人系統的supply chain，這個已經是事實。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:49.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:27:59.454000+08:00","text":"這不是能力的問題，雙邊還有國際條約簽訂的問題，因為日澳之間有國防相關的簽訂，但是臺日之間還沒有，這個部分也許可以一起努力。是。是。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-27T15:27:59.454000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:02.054500+08:00","text":"請林部長也做個說明。謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:02.054500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:04.655000+08:00","text":"請林部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:04.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:27.327000+08:00","text":"我想美國的印太戰略當然跟日美安保……尤其高市早苗首相現在要修改安保三文件，希望得到充分民意支持，這是一個很好的機會，因為他們都把第一島鏈也視為單一戰場，所以在各方面，現在臺灣跟他們沒有屬於安全條約的關係，怎麼樣把臺灣編織進來印太整個戰略裡面？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:27.827000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:46.165000+08:00","text":"所以這裡面有所謂小多邊，就是把雙邊的關係編織成可能三邊、四邊、五邊，包括像AUKUS、Quad、Five Eyes，臺灣在這裡當然有純粹的國防上面相關、也有非傳統安全的議題，在這個方面進展非常地大。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:46.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:52.164000+08:00","text":"我今天討論的主題就是在國防科技、國防產業的合作。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:52.164000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:53.165000+08:00","text":"對，特別是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:53.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:28:54.405000+08:00","text":"我為什麼提到臺日？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:28:54.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:01.410000+08:00","text":"因為臺日友好，有日澳之間在造艦上面的合作，未來我們是不是可以往這個目標去努力？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:01.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:22.881000+08:00","text":"是，我跟委員再補充，因為高市早苗日本成長戰略的17項科技產業，再加上美國主導的PIPIR（印太產業韌性夥伴關係），就是印太工業韌性聯盟，他們都知道臺灣在這裡面其實是不可或缺的，我們必須要主動去促成。","quality":0.682},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:24.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:28.683000+08:00","text":"我也理解，我是高市之友會。對。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:28.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:29.964000+08:00","text":"謝謝兩位部長。謝謝。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:29.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:30.464000+08:00","text":"再下一個問題想請教內政部劉部長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:30.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:31.284000+08:00","text":"麻煩請內政部部長備詢。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:31.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:29:52.081000+08:00","text":"院長，橋頭科學園區是未來半導體製造研發中心、特別製造中心，S廊帶的核心就是在橋頭科學園區。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:29:52.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:30:16.864000+08:00","text":"劉部長以前在副市長任內，橋頭新市鎮的轉型、橋頭科學園區都是他任內主導的，所以我尊稱他是橋科之母，沒有他當初的規劃，讓它轉型，把橋頭新市鎮變成橋頭科學園區，北高雄的發展不會像現在那麼熱絡，產業不會那麼發展。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:30:17.504000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:30:22.747000+08:00","text":"好，現在橋頭新市鎮第三期，我想部長你也知道我關心什麼？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:30:22.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:30:37.075000+08:00","text":"第三期，包括整個生活圈的規劃、生活機能的完善、道路交通的建置，包括1-1、2-3，這個非常重要，如果這個沒有做好，哇！","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:30:39.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:30:46.505000+08:00","text":"貨出不去，當地的橋頭市民也沒有辦法，每天都要受到交通的困擾。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:30:46.505000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:30:56.399000+08:00","text":"我想請教部長你的意見，是不是支持橋頭新市鎮第三期，讓它繼續如期開發，按照原先的規劃，按照專業的評估？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-27T15:30:59.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:32.082000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員的關心，我想委員一定了解，今年1月2號橋頭科學園區已經開始啟用，有27家廠商要進駐，當然，你所提到的第一期跟第二期的交通路網，現在我們都委會預計在4月時會再繼續審查，但是我們也知道有民團的意見，我們把民團意見做了專業評估之後，跟委員報告，第一個，我們會完整的保留橋頭糖廠，因為它有21.48公頃是文化景觀區，並沒有破壞所謂的生態棲地。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:33.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:42.748000+08:00","text":"裡面也提到其他綠地的部分，我們也查了一下，周邊有51公頃其實是人工造林跟舊有的公墓，並不是所謂的原始林……","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:42.748000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:45.310000+08:00","text":"部長，我必須打斷你，因為時間有限，我還有一個問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:45.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:49.312000+08:00","text":"並不是原始林，所以應該會按照高雄市的樹木保護規定辦理就可以了。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:50.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:51.293000+08:00","text":"就是會如期如質的推動，繼續推動？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:51.293000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:52.293000+08:00","text":"對，沒有問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:51.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:51.693000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝劉部長。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:51.693000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:53.554000+08:00","text":"最後一個問題請教交通部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:53.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:31:54.695000+08:00","text":"麻煩再請交通部部長備詢。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:31:54.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:32:37.731000+08:00","text":"跟卓院長做個說明，臺61線，就是濱海國道，是從新北市八里一直到曾文溪口，大概是6、7年前我提案一定要南延，臺61線不能只做到臺南市，要往南延做到楠梓、左營，這個部分經過我多年努力，可行性評估目前還在行政院，請教陳部長，目前最新的進度怎麼樣？","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-27T15:32:37.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:32:41.513000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，我們已經送到行政院，目前行政院正在審核當中。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:32:43.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:32:47.516000+08:00","text":"我希望這個能夠……也許通車的時候，我可能已經七十幾歲了，我希望……","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-27T15:32:52.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-27T15:32:53.554000+08:00","text":"邱委員，我會請我們業務單位跟工程會加速審議這個事情。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-03-27T15:32:54.054000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:12.339714+08:00","text":"這一條路的開闢不是那麼簡單，但是越早開越好，因為這個也經過很多生態敏感區，你不早一點核定，後面的工作就沒有辦法繼續進行，我請院長能夠更重視。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:12.639714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:14.639714+08:00","text":"行政院會來加速。","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:14.939714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:22.082571+08:00","text":"好，謝謝邱志偉委員質詢，謝謝卓院長、相關部會首長備詢，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:22.382571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:30.382571+08:00","text":"下午質詢的上半場，謝謝許宇甄委員、張智倫委員陪同我們一起參與。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:30.682571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:32.396857+08:00","text":"現在休息10分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:32.696857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:33.839714+08:00","text":"休息（15時33分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:34.139714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:35.854000+08:00","text":"繼續開會（15時43分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:36.154000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:39.582571+08:00","text":"報告院會，我們現在繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-27T15:33:39.882571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-27T15:33:45.311143+08:00","text":"接下來請張智倫委員質詢，羅美玲委員請準備。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}