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不要只有台灣的與會台灣島的與會嘛好嗎"},{"start":265.462,"end":283.72,"text":"請你幫我們慎重考慮我們有水撻、有保育、有生態我們有麗和豐湖你們那個是地支我們是麗和豐湖我們有銀城房我們有閩南的建築非常好看這個一定要記得共同的概念"},{"start":287.884,"end":303.596,"text":"這我的助理弄出來的澎湖的玄武岩啊這個馬祖的藍眼淚啊金門的這個水撻這樣是不是把台澎金馬都加進去請你考慮領導人的這個想法展現中華民國是有台澎金馬才可以"},{"start":304.376,"end":307.619,"text":"才不會讓李導覺得這個我們現在請財經公司 請慎重考慮考慮李導的那個想法才不會覺得所有東西我們都好像沒有被畫在一起來 財經公司 謝謝"},{"start":322.648,"end":341.313,"text":"董事長 我們這裡面要去考察貴公司需要考慮一個智慧金門的事情 數位增新以前發行資本券有很多高行政成本 場所受限 房位什麼各方面現在走向數位經濟"},{"start":344.114,"end":349.502,"text":"有很多的好處那我要跟您探討一下我現在講的這些想跟您探討那當然禮拜四的時候也希望歡迎可以幫我們做相關的研究現在你們有TWQR 台灣碼"},{"start":359.356,"end":375.944,"text":"一碼通 對吧我看這個做得不錯就是有可以讓 而且有讓商家升級那我看財政部也有說如果用電子支付的話數位支付的話可能在稅的方面 在小額商家的 小的小規模營業額上面可以給一點這個"},{"start":377.685,"end":398.479,"text":"稅務上的優惠但是這時候後面的你們這個系統就相當重要了當然如果用電子稅務支付的話會有很多很多好處那我來跟你講一下金門現在的情形我們金門現在有很多社會的福利社會福利就包括您看一下包括觀光"},{"start":402.922,"end":413.67,"text":"這個金門希望以後要做這個數位券我們現在有券嘛 你知道我們金門有很多的券我們有感恩券 就配酒的酒券 就是三結酒都有那個 您知道嗎"},{"start":416.379,"end":419.723,"text":"五十五歲到六十四歲每一年會發三萬六千元每一節都會發錢每一節都還會"},{"start":431.235,"end":448.134,"text":"可以售酒是賣的但是用酒券然後還有當然基本上很多社會福利措施不管這個那個各方面的非常多的社會福利措施這個從現在開始講到下午可能講不完但是這個東西要走向數位化所以我們希望"},{"start":449.415,"end":452.977,"text":"藉由我們財經公司的專業人力幫我們做一個整合的數位平台我們有醫療長照的補貼我們有交通觀光基本有交通觀光的補貼像台灣在講這個什麼營養午餐免費我們30年前就可以做了還有我們有公車免費 船免費兩塊 沒有免費 保險"},{"start":468.604,"end":489.32,"text":"那還有各式各樣的這個補貼交通 敬老的津貼比如說一百多歲領七千 九千這些就學每一個學期學生都發交通券 圖書券然後感恩券就是這個酒還有預算我們希望這個財經公司可以幫我們思考一下後面這個整個這個部分"},{"start":490.04,"end":515.637,"text":"那金門是一個很好實驗這個數位化的地方是的您知道我的意思嗎那你們做這麼多財經這個公司做這麼多研究那我感覺上在現在台灣整個普遍市面上好像也沒有用的很普遍啦就是有但是還不夠普遍那是不是在這個部分台積金公司可以特別幫忙思考一下事實上你可以做一個類似一個實驗的地方是"},{"start":516.897,"end":541.612,"text":"是 我們再跟委員請教我們對金門的這個如果要發這個券的話怎麼跟我們的數位這個平台結合然後做一個研究對 因為各式各樣的政府的支出給民間在來的福利不管是哪一類的福利因為政府本身就注下了很多資源在這個裡頭然後民間普遍不管食衣住行方面以後說不定還更多"},{"start":542.392,"end":556.826,"text":"這些方面如果有這個讓它導入數位化然後地區的金門地區的商家從這邊開始實驗起我想財經公司是可以扮演一個很重要的角色你們可以幫我幫我們金門做個相關的研究嗎"},{"start":557.666,"end":576.892,"text":"是的因為本身也很有基礎的嘛是是是那我們禮拜四去考察的時候可能會麻煩這個相關的這個準備包括後端還有包括可能遇到什麼問題啊然後怎麼樣包括你看消費上然後請款上面管理上面民眾好消費商家好請款政府好管理這個"},{"start":578.633,"end":591.759,"text":"研究出來後也來跟我們地方政府來做一個對接啦這個也可以讓財經公司扮演一個蠻重要的角色沒問題吧我們禮拜四過去考察的時候麻煩提出相關的報告啦好 謝謝您好 謝謝下一位質詢委員請王世堅委員質詢"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:52+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:53+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我們請央行總裁。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:53+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:54+08:00","text":"請中央銀行楊總裁。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:54+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:55+08:00","text":"陳委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:55+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:56+08:00","text":"總裁，前一陣子在說新臺幣要改版，是事實嗎？是！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:56+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:57+08:00","text":"確實有嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:57+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:58+08:00","text":"新臺幣？","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:58+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:36:59+08:00","text":"有啊、有啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:59+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:00+08:00","text":"新臺幣要改版啊！有啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:00+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:01+08:00","text":"有要改版，是改版幾塊錢的？","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:36:52.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:19.756000+08:00","text":"我們現在預計5個面額，我們也聽聽諮詢委員的意見，他們初步也認為5個面額都改版應該沒有問題。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:19.996000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:21.657000+08:00","text":"5個面額喔？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:21.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:21.977000+08:00","text":"你是說紙幣2,000、1,000……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:21.977000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:23.799000+08:00","text":"對、對、對！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:23.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:24.679000+08:00","text":"那硬幣我們不改版。2,000、1,000……2,000、1,000、500、200、100。500、200、100。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:31.284000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:32.685000+08:00","text":"5個面額全面要改喔？對！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:32.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:33.386000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，像有一個……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:36.167000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:37.768000+08:00","text":"要花多少錢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:39.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:39.149000+08:00","text":"就是預算啦！","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:39.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:44.051000+08:00","text":"我們這樣的話，每張大概成本會增加1.5塊。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:44.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:44.831000+08:00","text":"總共要花多少預算？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:45.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:46.032000+08:00","text":"這個還不曉得。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:46.272000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:47.573000+08:00","text":"大概有沒有一個range？沒有！因為……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:48.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:52.415000+08:00","text":"沒有是指3,000萬、5,000萬，還是……因為網路流傳是很大的金額……","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:52.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:54.696000+08:00","text":"因為現在的總量是什麼樣都還不曉得。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:55.296000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:56.817000+08:00","text":"所以你沒有一個預算嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:56.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:37:57.857000+08:00","text":"改版沒有一個預算嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:37:58.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:00.578000+08:00","text":"像3,000萬、5,000萬、3億、5億、30億、50億、300億、500億？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:00.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:01.259000+08:00","text":"我們還沒有編預算……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:02.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:03.560000+08:00","text":"你們心裡有沒有一個概念？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:04.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.081000+08:00","text":"有概念嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.722000+08:00","text":"我想這個謹慎一點啦！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.722000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:06.722000+08:00","text":"因為我沒有……大概？","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.942000+08:00","text":"哪個範圍？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:05.962000+08:00","text":"100億到500億、1億到500億？","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:06.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:06.623000+08:00","text":"不、不，因為我一講的時候，到時候又說改版要花那麼多錢，然後又在那邊做文章啊……","quality":0.303},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:06.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:09.746000+08:00","text":"不是，你沒有概念，怎麼來爭取支持？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:09.746000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:10.246000+08:00","text":"第一個，你心裡要有概念嘛……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:10.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:10.787000+08:00","text":"我不認為這是很適當的……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:10.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:11.347000+08:00","text":"沒有、沒有，如果你打算要做，你要知道啊！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:25.961000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:26.502000+08:00","text":"來，沒關係，這個還沒嘛？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:26.502000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:27.723000+08:00","text":"還沒有、還沒有、我們還沒有……","quality":0.273},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:27.723000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:28.684000+08:00","text":"到時候反正要提出來啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:28.684000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:29.684000+08:00","text":"對、對、對！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:29.684000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:30.684000+08:00","text":"那當然，我們……OK。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:29.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:35.510000+08:00","text":"第二，我看到前一陣子有在做調查什麼的，我們國家是中華民國，對吧？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:35.510000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:36.510000+08:00","text":"是，對啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:36.510000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:37.510000+08:00","text":"怎麼樣？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:36.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:40.274000+08:00","text":"中華民國就有臺、澎、金、馬，對不對？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:40.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:40.634000+08:00","text":"臺、澎、金、馬，對不對？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:40.634000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:41.855000+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:41.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:56.711000+08:00","text":"臺、澎、金、馬，你們做改版，不只是防偽技術，還要重新定義臺、澎、金、馬，所以代表臺、澎、金、馬，有臺灣島的一些東西，金門的意象請幫我們……","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:56.711000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:57.711000+08:00","text":"沒有啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:57.711000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:58.711000+08:00","text":"中華民國就好啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:58.711000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:38:59.711000+08:00","text":"臺、澎、金、馬為什麼要……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:38:57.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:07.162000+08:00","text":"你看一下栗喉蜂虎、金門的閩南燕尾脊建築，這些東西你要幫我們思考一下，這是金門的，你有看到嗎？","quality":0.732},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:07.162000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:09.022000+08:00","text":"對、對、對！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:09.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:09.643000+08:00","text":"臺、澎、金、馬嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:10.503000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:20.485000+08:00","text":"不要只注意臺灣有什麼東西，不要只注意臺灣島有什麼東西，離島不要忘記，我們是生命共同體，我們是一個國家嘛，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:20.485000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:22.065000+08:00","text":"是、是、是，金門的水獺也很漂亮，我覺得這個水獺也很好啊！對啊！","quality":0.36},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:23.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:27.966000+08:00","text":"我都沒有看到你們的選項裡面有這些東西，全部都是臺灣的一些東西，對不對？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:30.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:36.687000+08:00","text":"你們用票選，有19萬人民去票選，如島嶼生態，在這個圖上面沒有看到我們的島啊！","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:37.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:38.888000+08:00","text":"我的島在哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:39:38.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:39:40.948000+08:00","text":"我們金門在哪裡？對吧？","quality":1},{"spe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nd":"2026-03-30T11:42:41.082000+08:00","text":"董事長，我們這禮拜去考察貴公司要討論智慧金門的事情、數位振興，以前發行紙本券有很高的行政成本、場所受限、防偽等各方面問題，現在走向數位經濟有很多的好處，我現在講這些是想跟你探討，當然禮拜四的時候也希望可以幫我們做相關的研究。是。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:42:41.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:42:52.337000+08:00","text":"現在你們有TWQR一碼通，對吧？是。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:42:53.077000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:43:23.194000+08:00","text":"我看這個做得不錯，而且有讓商家升級，我看財政部也有說，如果用電子支付的話，數位支付在小額商家的小規模營業額上面可以給一點稅務上的優惠，但這時候你們後面的這個系統就相當重要，當然用數位支付有很多、很多的好處。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:43:23.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:43:45.670000+08:00","text":"我跟你講一下現在金門的情形，我們金門現在有很多社會福利，社會福利就包括觀光，金門希望以後要做數位券，我們現在有券嘛，你知道我們金門有很多的券，我們有感恩券（配酒的酒券），就是三節的酒都有那個……您知道嗎？","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"林董事長國良","start":"2026-03-30T11:43:45.670000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:43:49+08:00","text":"不好意思，我不是很清楚，但我知道金門有配酒。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:43:49+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:44:16.470000+08:00","text":"好，我們這邊55歲到64歲每一年會發3萬6,000元，每一節發幾千塊、每一節都會發錢，然後每節都還會配售酒（是賣的），但是用酒券，當然金門還有很多社會福利措施，不管是這個、那個，各方面都有非常多的社會福利措施，從現在開始講，講到下午可能都講不完。","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:44:17.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:44:55.695000+08:00","text":"但是這個東西要走向數位化，所以我們希望藉由財金公司的專業人力幫我們做一個整合的數位平臺，我們有醫療長照補貼、交通觀光補貼，像臺灣在講的營養午餐免費，我們30年前就開始做了；還有觀光，我們有公車免費、船免費等等，有人是要收2塊，沒有完全免費，這是保險的部分；還有各式各樣的補貼，交通、敬老的津貼，比如說一百多歲領7,000、9,000這一類的；就學的部分，每一個學期學生都發交通券、圖書券；還有感恩券（就是酒的部分）以及預算。","quality":0.803},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:44:56.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:45:08.584000+08:00","text":"我們希望財金公司可以幫我們思考一下後面整體的部分，金門是一個很好實驗數位化的地方，您知道我的意思嗎？是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:45:10.746000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:45:27.196000+08:00","text":"財金公司做了這麼多研究，我感覺現在臺灣整個市面上好像也沒有用得很普遍，有但還不夠普遍，是不是在這個部分財金公司可以特別幫忙思考一下，可以作為一個類似實驗的地方？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:45:27.196000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:45:28.897000+08:00","text":"你講一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林董事長國良","start":"2026-03-30T11:45:28.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:45:38.683000+08:00","text":"是，我們再跟委員請教，對於金門如果要發這些券的話，怎麼跟我們的數位平臺結合並做一個研究。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:45:39.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:10.146000+08:00","text":"對，因為有各式各樣政府支出給民間的福利，不管是哪一類的福利，政府本身就注下了很多資源在這裡頭，然後民間十分普遍，不管食、衣、住、行等方面，以後說不定還有更多，這些方面如果能導入數位化，然後從金門地區的商家開始實驗起，我想財金公司可以扮演一個很重要的角色，你們可以幫我們金門做一個相關的研究嗎？是的。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:10.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:11.807000+08:00","text":"因為本身也很有基礎了嘛？是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:13.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:37.596000+08:00","text":"我們禮拜四去考察的時候可能要麻煩進行相關的準備，包括後端，還有包括可能遇到什麼問題，包括消費、請款、管理，讓民眾好消費、商家好請款、政府好管理，這個研究出來以後也來跟我們地方政府對接，這個也可以讓財金公司扮演一個滿重要的角色，沒問題吧？","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"林董事長國良","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:37.596000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:38.596000+08:00","text":"沒問題，是的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:38.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:42.378000+08:00","text":"我們禮拜四過去考察的時候麻煩提出相關的報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林董事長國良","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:43.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:43.339000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員玉珍","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:43.339000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:44.339000+08:00","text":"謝謝你。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-30T11:46:43.499000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-30T11:46:43.759000+08:00","text":"謝謝，下一位質詢委員請王世堅委員質詢。","quality":1}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}