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朝向有沒有具體的做提前掉貨掉多少貨到五月份的這個天然氣的部分都已經掉足了那六月份已經有七成的這個船隻都已經掉起來半年之內沒有斷氣的危機吧不會不會一年之內呢"},{"start":396.319,"end":419.367,"text":"對,我們一年之內也不會有段期,因為中油其實它每天...你要保證半年之內不會有任何段期的可能性?當然,我們是因為有一個法定存量在,那我們不可能是...你這三個因應方案如果確實執行的話,我還比較有信心,我就怕你提出這方案,沒有辦法去執行,包括提前調貨,包括你要跟日本、韓國相互支援,這個做得到嗎?"},{"start":420.147,"end":439.058,"text":"對 我們現在就是都在市場上就是只要有貨我們大概就是不管是現貨或是這個跟同業家我們都我要看出數據跟刺激的好我要看出你們這三大因應方案這一個月來你們執行狀況怎麼樣你會後再給我一個書面資料好的謝謝好 謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:24.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:28:25.091000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:25.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:28:27.373000+08:00","text":"有請經濟部何次長、國發會葉主委、能源署吳署長。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:27.373000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:28:33.080667+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:33.080667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:28:38.788333+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:38.788333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:28:44.496000+08:00","text":"大家早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:28:44.496000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:02.434000+08:00","text":"星期五經濟委員會在興達電廠的考察，針對電協金相關的制度引起地方上很大的問題，會中我們決議一個月之內提出相關的檢討辦法，一個月大概就是4月底提出來，可以嗎？","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:02.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:03.234000+08:00","text":"是，可以、可以。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:03.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:19.564000+08:00","text":"一定要讓大家都可以接受，達到雙贏，地方可以接受，台電也可以執行，然後整個制度設計一定要跟地方上、跟市政府以及當地的這些里長都充分說明，可以吧？可以。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:19.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:21.405000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:21.605000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:22.265000+08:00","text":"署長先請回。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:23.546000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:29:57.713000+08:00","text":"我先請教，運動也是一種產業，像你看職棒37年開幕戰，滿場四萬多人，這個在十年前大概不會有這種榮景，因為12強我們得到冠軍，然後變成大家非常喜歡進場去看球，這是一種休閒，也是一種活動，幾乎每一場人數都是上萬以上，所以怎麼樣透過國發會和經濟部去協助？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:29:58.535000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:02.945000+08:00","text":"國發會，你們有經濟處，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:02.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:03.685000+08:00","text":"有產業發展處。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:05.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:07.387000+08:00","text":"經濟部針對運動產業是哪一個單位？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:10.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:12.670000+08:00","text":"你怎麼樣讓運動產業能夠有一個好的發展環境？","quality":0.55},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:13.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:41.734000+08:00","text":"我舉一個例子來說，以前日本職業足球剛開始的時候人沒有很多，他用政策去協助，給予租稅優惠，讓公司成立球團，然後行銷、跟國際合作等等，結果每一場都數萬人，所以怎麼樣讓運動產業能夠有一個好的發展環境，我想應該是國發會和經濟部來通力合作。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:43.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:43.737000+08:00","text":"次長，你先說一下。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:44.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:50.203000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，今年國科會會開一個策略會議，就針對運動產業怎麼樣運用AI……","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:50.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:30:52.964000+08:00","text":"當然也要結合運動部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:30:53.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:08.892000+08:00","text":"對，所以我們會配合國發會的整體規劃，經濟部這邊不管是技術司或是產業發展署，未來也會找相關產業，來做AI運用的推動。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:08.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:11.773000+08:00","text":"好，這個部分，國發會扮演什麼角色？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:13.654000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:27.018000+08:00","text":"在運動部裡面，它本身就有所謂的產業發展條例，國發會也會順著這樣一個產業發展條例提供國發基金，我們也會鼓勵運動部來申請所謂百億基金裡面的運動部分。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:27.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:30.099000+08:00","text":"對，你們有文化部，也有數位部……","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:30.099000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:31.660000+08:00","text":"有，對，都有，還有經濟部……","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:31.660000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:32.700000+08:00","text":"好像沒有運動部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:33.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:36.862000+08:00","text":"對，所以其實我們都一直在鼓勵運動部來申請。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:36.862000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:37.522000+08:00","text":"你們這七大產業的百億計畫裡面沒有運動產業耶！","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:41.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:42.904000+08:00","text":"我們希望他趕快來申請。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:42.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:43.784000+08:00","text":"那你要編預算，你的預算要有這個項目。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:44.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:31:55.208000+08:00","text":"有、有、有，我們其實都有在規劃當中，現在就是持續在跟運動部商討他們怎麼樣把這個計畫送過來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:31:55.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:01.191000+08:00","text":"職棒已經站穩腳步了，職籃也開始有明顯成長，現在還有職業排球……","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:03.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:03.592000+08:00","text":"還有羽球。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:05.152000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:05.973000+08:00","text":"羽球，以後有足球。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:07.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:12.761000+08:00","text":"日本以前沒有人去看職業足球的，現在他們職業足球的進場人數比職棒還多。對。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:13.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:16.442000+08:00","text":"那是要有策略去引導，國家要來協助。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:18.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:18.222000+08:00","text":"會、會、會，會的。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:18.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:18.222000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:18.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:32:42.107000+08:00","text":"繼續請教一下何次長，扣件被稱為是工業之米，目前扣件遇到的困境包括國際市場需求的大崩潰，現在剩下美國市場，加上中國的低價競爭，又陷入平庸化的陷阱，成本又增加，勞動力成本增加，以及減碳的壓力等等。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:32:43.428000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:29.078000+08:00","text":"要讓臺灣的螺絲扣件能夠維持國際競爭力，一定要拿出好的策略，我覺得怎麼樣協助扣件產業轉型升級，你應該要有一個政策白皮書，用這個白皮書來做個引導，提出具體解方，譬如國內所有的公共工程，不要只公家的，或者是民間的，需要扣件的都用國產的扣件，然後你要怎麼樣用AI高值化轉型，把螺絲扣件朝向高值化，譬如航太、AI、半導體相關的螺絲，不要停留在比較傳統的低階螺絲。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:32.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:39.201000+08:00","text":"我發現如果用國防相關的螺絲，可以得到關稅減免，是不是這樣子？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:39.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:41.303000+08:00","text":"是，沒錯，現在我們和……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:41.563000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:42.523000+08:00","text":"或者太空等等。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:42.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:57.073000+08:00","text":"我們和美方也已經達成一個協議，就是針對汽車零組件的部分，可以有15%的優惠稅率，航空零組件的部分，關稅稅率也可以豁免……","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:57.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:58.714000+08:00","text":"就是特殊螺絲……","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:58.714000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:33:59.714000+08:00","text":"對，特殊螺絲。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:33:58.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:05.038000+08:00","text":"你要用政策把相關螺絲業引導向關稅可以減免的品項……","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:05.038000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:06.038000+08:00","text":"對、對，是、是、是。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:05.819000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:07.800000+08:00","text":"不要大家一窩蜂還是停留在比較低階的螺絲。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:09.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:12.024000+08:00","text":"是，我們現在的輔導方向也是這樣。好。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:12.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:25.034000+08:00","text":"另外是能源的問題，現在你們有三個機制，包括提前領貨，另外，要請……","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:25.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:25.775000+08:00","text":"同業調貨。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:25.775000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:27.817000+08:00","text":"同業調貨，同業就是跟日本、韓國……對。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:29.398000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:30.119000+08:00","text":"第三個是……","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:30.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:30.799000+08:00","text":"市場買現貨。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:30.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:31.380000+08:00","text":"市場買現貨，你們這三個因應方案目前的執行情況怎麼樣？","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:35.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:39.873000+08:00","text":"目前應該都有朝這樣的方向，所以包括我們……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:39.873000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:40.773000+08:00","text":"朝這個方向，有沒有具體作為？","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:40.773000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:42.073000+08:00","text":"有，就是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:42.073000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:43.954000+08:00","text":"譬如提前調貨，調了多少貨？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:43.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:51.937000+08:00","text":"我們現在到5月的天然氣部分都已經調足了，6月的已經調齊7成船隻了……","quality":0.679},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:52.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:54.298000+08:00","text":"所以半年之內沒有斷氣的危機吧！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:54.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:55.879000+08:00","text":"不會、不會、不會有。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:55.879000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:56.339000+08:00","text":"一年之內呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:57.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:34:58.319000+08:00","text":"一年之內也不會有斷氣的危機？","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:34:59.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:00.660000+08:00","text":"我們會來努力、我們會來努力，因為其實中油每天……","quality":0.3},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:00.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:03.801000+08:00","text":"你能不能保證半年之內不會有任何斷氣的可能性？","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:03.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:06.922000+08:00","text":"當然，因為我們有一個法定存量在，我們不可能違反這個規定……","quality":0.68},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:07.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:11.504000+08:00","text":"你這三個因應方案如果確實執行了，我還比較有信心……是。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:12.004000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:14.585000+08:00","text":"我就怕你提出這個方案，沒有辦法去執行……有、有。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:14.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:20.367000+08:00","text":"包括提前調貨，包括要跟日本、韓國相互支援，這個做得到嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:21.147000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:28.351000+08:00","text":"對，我們現在都在市場上，只要有貨，不管是現貨，或是跟同業調貨，我們就是都……","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:28.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:29.712000+08:00","text":"我要看數據和成績……是。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:31.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:38.557000+08:00","text":"我要看你們這三大因應方案這一個月來執行的狀況怎麼樣，你會後再給我一個書面資料。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:38.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:39.497000+08:00","text":"好、好，好的。謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:39.497000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:40.058000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席（邱委員志偉）","start":"2026-04-01T10:35:40.558000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:35:49.986571+08:00","text":"下一位質詢請鄭天財委員，鄭天財委員質詢之後，我們休息5分鐘，必要時延長1分鐘。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}