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OK最後一個問題就是關於客家語言發展法上次我有請教主委就是客家語言發展法我們現在立法的進度因為上次主委在這邊有跟我們講說因為跟文化部推動的國家語言發展中心的業務有重疊跟抵觸可是就本行有去了解了一下好像目前來講好像文化部還是不太願意跟你們來開協調會來處理這個問題"},{"start":485.592,"end":505.152,"text":"那在上次質詢的時候我有請教主委你說有可能這個客家語言發展法因為它最大的重點就是保障這個客語在國家語言的地位以及保障人民來使用客語那如果以現在文化部還是沒有來繼續跟你們開會這個會期有機會把草案送到立法院嗎"},{"start":506.412,"end":531.087,"text":"感謝議員 目前我們這次在亞非去送到立法院目前我們在京都 非禮堡已經都完備了要簽到行政院裡頭已經有溝通了是OK的?有溝通OK了那大概去年溝通了幾次?我們送你也有 客家語言研究中心這個已經送來立法院了"},{"start":532.48,"end":550.453,"text":"這個也要文化部的法案已經送下去客語發展法目前要送行政院但行政院通過的主要送到立法院所以這個會期會送到行政院?對,我們會去期待OK,那是一個蠻好的進度希望主委跟客語會的同仁大家一起加油謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:29:55.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:29:55.394000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:29:55.615000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:29:56.939000+08:00","text":"各位委員、各位官員，大家早。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:29:57.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:29:59.167000+08:00","text":"有請客委會古主委。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:29:59.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:30:03.985000+08:00","text":"張委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:30:03.985000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:30:08.803000+08:00","text":"古主委早。謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:30:08.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:30:41.326000+08:00","text":"首先，謝謝，還是要感謝客委會在去年對我們地方活動的支持，尤其在114年新北市有舉辦一個新北客家義民祭，當時我也特別拜託古主委，地方的活動因為某些問題，經費不足，也感謝古主委把補助的金額從100萬增加到200萬，讓活動順利圓滿，不僅讓青年參與，也讓國際社會的一些友好組織來參與。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:30:41.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:30:51.711000+08:00","text":"也要拜託古主委，希望今年可以比照辦理，給新北最大的支持，因為新北的客家人數大概有高達67萬人，都很重視這樣的活動。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:30:54.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:31:02.294000+08:00","text":"接下來要請教，依照客委會最新的業務報告，本席常常跟主委請教，就是有關於伯公照護站。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:31:03.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:31:30.870000+08:00","text":"報告裡面可以看得出來，伯公照護站已經從過去的556個，到今年已經成立611個，我覺得這是一件很好的事，就是我們有放寬客家社區的認定，也讓未來客家社區的人口數，從過往要常住人口的50%放寬到30%，這樣的調整，本席可以接受。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:31:31.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:31:45.865000+08:00","text":"可是本席的選區在新北市，新北市跟臺北市的客家人人數非常多，剛剛本席有提到現在全國總共611個伯公照護站。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:31:46.446000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:32:05.339000+08:00","text":"我覺得伯公照護站很棒，不僅是可以讓長輩有一個可以參加活動的地方，伯公照護站的意旨就是希望由長輩把客語可以傳給自己的下一代或者是孫子，讓這樣子的家庭照護更圓滿，以及語言傳承有更好的一個方式。","quality":0.809},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:32:05.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:32:30.906000+08:00","text":"可是現在雙北的伯公照護站，只有臺北市一個站，新北市一個站都沒有，以客家社區來講，有10個客家社區都沒有成立伯公照護站，所以是不是請主委……就是你有在努力，可是在雙北的伯公照護站好像成效還不是很好，主委有沒有什麼想法可以來解決這個問題？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:32:32.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:32:32.866000+08:00","text":"感謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:32:32.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:32:36.588000+08:00","text":"最主要還是社區要有意願，社區的意願是最重要的，所以社區要願意來推，我們是百分之百支持，我們還是要跟社區持續鼓勵來投入伯公照護站。","quality":0.305},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:32:55.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:33:04.844000+08:00","text":"是，主委說得沒錯，剛剛你所說的就是現在雙北市可以開放成客家社團的這10個區只有1個區願意來設伯公照護站。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:33:05.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:33:21.434000+08:00","text":"主委，因為伯公照護站今年的預算也比去年稍微增加一些，增加了大概一、兩千萬，所以是不是今年可以再打破框架，更大刀闊斧，把這個比例再稍微調整一下？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:33:21.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:33:46.912000+08:00","text":"比如客語使用比例30%下降到20%左右，或是我跟主委報告一下，我們可以調整，如果客家人口設籍區域在前十名，比如新北板橋、新莊、中和等等地方，是不是都有機會來考慮，就是像之前我請教你的，可以把它列為是客家社團的一部分，有沒有這樣的機會？","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:33:46.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:33:57.558000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們第一年先這樣做，嘗試一下，看明年的狀況如何，我們先用30%，至於下降到20%，我們看30%的規定是否有其他社區有意願來參與，看參與的程度如何，我們再來調整修正。","quality":0.63},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:34:09.905000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:34:22.835000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主委，因為剛剛講從50%下降到30%的時候，只有增加1個伯公照護站，所以我覺得這個比例還可以再往下調，看看會不會有更多社區願意共同來參與，我覺得這個非常好。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:34:23.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:34:24.636000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:34:24.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:34:33.082000+08:00","text":"第二個，我要請教主委的是去年我們有個政策也蠻不錯的，就是客家幣使用的部分。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:34:33.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:01.747000+08:00","text":"去年來講，大概有28萬人來申請，花了政府大概2.8億的預算，以使用率來講，如果我們簡單來講，抓六、七成的話，大概是2億的經費，到3月20日為止，總消費金額大概是1.25億，我覺得是有達到階段性的目標，不過整體使用率還是比較低，大概才45%。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:03.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:18.937000+08:00","text":"客委會有去做問卷調查，我們的目的當然希望不僅要促進商家的效益，也要促進客語的使用率，可是就你們的訪查來講，好像店家主動說客語的比例也只有40%。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:18.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:29.464000+08:00","text":"所以現在客家幣的使用經費不到50%，是45%，店家願意主動說客語的比例也還不到50%，只有40%。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:30.645000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:49.640000+08:00","text":"我覺得現在這個客家幣是一個很好的政策，針對客家幣使用的進度、執行率，以及未來是不是儘量拜託店家主動說客語，讓大家知道有客家幣這樣的活動，主委是不是有一些執行方式可以跟大家說明一下？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:50.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:50.240000+08:00","text":"感謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:50.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:35:53.643000+08:00","text":"首先，我要報告，到昨天為止，是使用1.3億，我們預編的預算是2億，1.3億已經達到65%，這是第一個。","quality":0.622},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:35:53.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:36:25.103000+08:00","text":"第二個，我們的主要目的真的就是強調在商店裡面講客語這件事情，所以今年第一次在客家幣的使用，店家還沒直接使用客語這件事情，我們在2.0、今年新的一季會強調客語的使用，一定要達到怎樣的客語使用率才可以成為我們的店家，在2.0會強制這個部分，所以我們才會推動真正以客語為消費語言的環境。","quality":0.535},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:36:45.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:36:55.854000+08:00","text":"好，剛剛主委特別講到，基本上，這次客庄的店家都要儘量百分之百，至少在顧客來的時候，一定要講客語。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:36:56.195000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:04.362000+08:00","text":"我也了解今年的2.0能使用客家幣的對象沒有設年齡限制等等，也有一些改進。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:04.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:09.767000+08:00","text":"我再請教一下主委，就是今年客家幣的預算、整體發放的金額大概是多少？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:11.542000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:17.285000+08:00","text":"2.0的部分一樣編列2億元來執行這個計畫。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:18.086000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:20.027000+08:00","text":"今年沒有增加更多嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:20.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:22.048000+08:00","text":"預算沒有成長，要請委員支持。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:22.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:25.010000+08:00","text":"我支持、我支持，這個客家幣，我們會支持……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:25.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:27.011000+08:00","text":"預算沒有成長。好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:28.072000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:46.265000+08:00","text":"最後一個問題是關於客家語言發展法，上次我有請教主委，就是客家語言發展法現在立法的進度，主委在這邊有跟我們講，這跟文化部推動的國家語言研究發展中心的業務有重疊與牴觸。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:46.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:37:52.690000+08:00","text":"可是本席有去了解了一下，目前來講，好像文化部還是不太願意跟你們開協調會來處理這個問題。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:37:55.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:15.152000+08:00","text":"在上次質詢的時候，我有請教主委，你說客家語言發展法最大的重點就是保障客語在國家語言的地位，以及保障人民來使用客語，如果現在文化部還是沒有積極來跟你們開會，這個會期有機會把草案送到立法院嗎？","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:16.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:17.453000+08:00","text":"感謝委員。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:18.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:28.299000+08:00","text":"我們正積極要在本會期送到立法院，目前的進度是會裡都已經完備了，要簽到行政院院裡頭……","quality":0.632},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:28.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:29.600000+08:00","text":"所以已經有溝通了，是OK了，是不是？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:29.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:30.881000+08:00","text":"有溝通了，OK了。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:31.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:32.882000+08:00","text":"那去年大概溝通了幾次？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:38.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:52.387000+08:00","text":"國家語言研究發展中心的法案已經送來立法院了，這是文化部的，已經送來大院了；客語發展法目前還要送行政院，等行政院院會通過，就會送來立法院。","quality":0.71},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:52.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:38:54.669000+08:00","text":"所以這個會期會送到行政院？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:38:56.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T09:39:00.453000+08:00","text":"OK，那是一個滿好的進度，好，希望主委以及客委會同仁大家一起加油，謝謝。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T09:39:00.953000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:39:02.095857+08:00","text":"感謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-04-01T09:39:02.395857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:39:03.395857+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T09:39:03.695857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:39:05.695857+08:00","text":"謝謝張智倫委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T09:39:05.995857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T09:39:09.710143+08:00","text":"接下來請王美惠委員質詢，謝謝。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}