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沒錯而這個都需要經費要有經費才能做到都需要經費我們共同來努力是謝謝感謝你"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:12:53.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:12:53.132000+08:00","text":"謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:12:53.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:12:56.613000+08:00","text":"有請古主委和宋董事長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:12:56.613000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:13:02.656000+08:00","text":"好，請古主委和宋董事長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:13:02.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:13:02.656000+08:00","text":"召委好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:13:03.736000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:13:03.876000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:13:05.056000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:13:30.763000+08:00","text":"跟主委追蹤一下，我在去年10月15日就針對客家幣使用的情形提出質詢，我的主張包含擴大發放對象、避免數位落差，如果兒童沒有金融卡，擴大使用時要克服相關障礙。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:13:32.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:13:47.813000+08:00","text":"有關今年客家幣政策的實施，主委剛剛回答其他委員質詢時提到所有學習客語、修讀客語課程的小朋友都有這個資格了，我覺得這是很好的。","quality":0.707},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:13:48.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:14:17.820000+08:00","text":"我今天要跟主委討論這個政策的內容是，很可惜，這是去年度的預算，去年度如果執行得很好，今年到3月為止，你剛剛說是執行了1.3億，執行率60%，有機會達標，也就是完全把相關預算執行完畢。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:14:18.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:14:43.479000+08:00","text":"這項預算其實是在推廣客語的使用，這也是客委會最重要的工作之一，可是很遺憾，沒有辦法增加，如果可以增加的話，主委想要如何推動更多人使用客家幣和客語去消費？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:14:47.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:14:51.162000+08:00","text":"還是預算沒有過，就延用去年的做法？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:14:52.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:07.581000+08:00","text":"感謝委員，今年「客家幣2.0」增加學習客語的學生使用，光是這樣就吃掉我們所有的預算了。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:07.761000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:10.763000+08:00","text":"所以我們非常肯定。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:11.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:13.426000+08:00","text":"但是這樣我們就沒有機會再開放給……","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:15.939000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:17.499000+08:00","text":"這就需要新興計畫嘛！是。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:18.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:21.480000+08:00","text":"沒有多的新興計畫就沒有機會嘛！","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:22.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:23.041000+08:00","text":"是的，這樣我們的預算就不足。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:23.721000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:27.482000+08:00","text":"預算送過來，如果立法院不審，你們就沒有機會增加，這樣很可惜！","quality":0.731},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:29.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:30.902000+08:00","text":"是的，我們同仁也很傷腦筋。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:31.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:15:42.805000+08:00","text":"我一直說18歲以上、非客籍的也有機會來，可是同仁都說沒有預算、沒有錢，所以這是比較可惜的地方。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:15:43.325000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:16:14.372000+08:00","text":"每個委員尤其是有選區的委員或者是代表客家族群的委員，其實都很希望相關經費可以增加，用以推廣客語的使用、海外客家族群今年在巴西舉辦的活動、伯公照護站，還有你們和紙風車合作在地方進行客語推廣的演出。","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:16:16.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:16:52.878000+08:00","text":"我剛剛請董事長上來就是要講戲劇方面，其實戲劇也不能完全用分潤或者是票房來衡量，我覺得該投資客語環境或客語戲劇的相關內容就要投資，不要怕失敗，對客語推廣或客家文化具有價值的相關戲劇，我還是鼓勵客委會和基金會要持續投入。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:16:53.498000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:16:55.240000+08:00","text":"這部分請董事長做個回應。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:16:55.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:17:01.323000+08:00","text":"我剛剛看董事長看到賠錢好像會怕，但就是要推廣啊！","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:17:01.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:17:01.984000+08:00","text":"推廣就是要花錢！","quality":1},{"speaker":"宋董事長廷棟","start":"2026-04-01T10:17:05.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:17:06.747000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委講這幾點。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"宋董事長廷棟","start":"2026-04-01T10:17:06.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:17:33.361000+08:00","text":"事實上一部影片沒有辦法完全只用票房來決定它的價值，它在文化的面向、歷史的面向，還有在人民情感、人民記憶的面向有很多不能用票房價錢去運算的價值。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:17:33.361000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:17:37.483000+08:00","text":"董事長現在就講得很好啊！謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:17:37.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:18:07.951000+08:00","text":"主委，我的選區過去有大量海軍的眷村，海軍眷村移走之後，我在高雄市政府服務的時候，高雄市政府文化局也跟國防部和文化部費了好大一番功夫把眷村保留下來，做成眷村文化保留園區，它保留的是什麼？","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:18:07.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:18:12.016000+08:00","text":"它保留的不是只有眷村那個殼，而是眷村的文化。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:18:13.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:18:45.964000+08:00","text":"客委會現在做的很重要的事情除了保留剛剛主委講的，要讓客語的使用率止跌之外，我覺得客家文化的保存，包含你在推廣商店的客語消費，這個客家文化的保存是非常非常值得我們再投入更多的心力，讓客委會、讓所有的客家文化，不管是語言或者是剛剛講的戲劇等等，都可以不斷地來推廣。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:18:46.785000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:19:07.416000+08:00","text":"我還是期許主委可以做更多的推廣，即使目前的經費很遺憾地只能延用去年的計畫，沒有新興的計畫可以使用，在只有去年的計畫可以使用的情況下，我還是期待主委可以提出，如果有機會，客委會還希望可以做什麼。","quality":0.899},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:19:09.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:19:12.601000+08:00","text":"感謝委員，我們想要做的事很多。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:19:12.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:19:22.065000+08:00","text":"好，新興計畫你可以在這邊講一下，我們來跟全國所有客家鄉親和全國人民來爭取。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:19:25.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:19:51.323000+08:00","text":"好，譬如說剛剛有委員提到語言的部分，語言部分就有很多工作可以做，這些都牽涉到預算，比如說，很多小孩子下課之後去安親班，小孩子在學校學客語是我們目前已經在推動的，那麼到家裡之前的安親班，是不是我們也可以介入呢？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:19:51.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:19:55.306000+08:00","text":"因為透過語言的傳遞，讓孩子……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:19:55.306000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:07.492000+08:00","text":"這個非常好，就是類似長輩去伯公照護站，上學的小朋友放學之後有一個客語的安親環境。沒錯。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:08.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:09.094000+08:00","text":"這個都需要……","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:09.455000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:10.436000+08:00","text":"要有經費才能做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:10.536000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:11.457000+08:00","text":"對，都需要經費。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:11.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:14.080000+08:00","text":"我們共同來努力。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"古主任委員秀妃","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:14.080000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:14.240000+08:00","text":"感謝委員。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:14.740000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:17.597143+08:00","text":"謝謝李柏毅召委的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:20:17.897143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:20:20.468571+08:00","text":"下一位請林月琴委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}