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只是說我們現在台電目前是沒有啦目前是沒有 目前狀況是不會再開好 那以上了解 謝謝謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:52:53.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:52:57.574000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，麻煩請何政次，還有王總經理。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:52:59.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:52:59.074000+08:00","text":"經濟部何次長，台電王總。","quality":0.3},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:03.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:04.036000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:04.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:04.737000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:05.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:21.242000+08:00","text":"能源大漲，這幾天有一個新聞，就是中油針對天然氣的售價有調漲，尤其是針對電力用戶的價格有調漲，想確認一下也包含台電公司嗎？有。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:21.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:22.203000+08:00","text":"包含嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:22.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:32.711000+08:00","text":"那我想確認一下，台電公司有沒有算過，台電已經公布電費調漲的比例了，那未來對台電的成本的影響是多少？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:33.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:38.135000+08:00","text":"有沒有可能會產生民眾要感謝台電公司的機會？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:38.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:38.836000+08:00","text":"麻煩說明一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:41.624000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:53:57.208000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這次的調漲是從每立方公尺12.6067元調升到每立方公尺17.8485元，我們這樣算一算，大概一年會增加九百多億。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:53:59.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:54:03.390000+08:00","text":"如果按照這樣的價格，一年會增加九百多億的成本。是。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:54:04.530000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:54:06.510000+08:00","text":"你們現在有評估過電價的調整了嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:54:10.439000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:54:17.364000+08:00","text":"應該這樣說，這一個戰爭的期間會多久，還有調幅多少，有這兩個變數。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:54:18.284000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:54:20.366000+08:00","text":"所以我們分成短期跟長期。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:54:20.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:54:42.583000+08:00","text":"如果是短期的話就是一個月100億，台電因為去年還有729億稅後盈餘，所以在因應上還有一點餘裕的空間，如果是長期，那就還要再另外思考，所以我們現在等於是邊走邊看。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:54:43.384000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:07.477000+08:00","text":"所以短期內台電釋放的訊息就是，雖然天然氣的成本有提升，大概一個月增加100億的成本，但是因為台電去年有盈餘，所以今年到目前為止，因為戰爭會延續多久還不知道，短期內台電會先吸收成本，暫時先不會反映到終端的電價，無論是民生或者是工業，是這樣子嗎？","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:07.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:13.339000+08:00","text":"這部分是根據3月底電價審議委員會的決議，是這個樣子的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:14.019000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:16.080000+08:00","text":"3月底是這樣子，下一次開會大概是哪時候？9月底。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:16.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:33.999000+08:00","text":"9月底，所以目前大概所有的用電戶可以放心，在9月台電的電價審議委員會之前，無論天然氣的價格如何變化，我們民生或者是工業的電價，原則上不會有調整機會，還是有開臨時會的可能嗎？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:35.562000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:42.648000+08:00","text":"上次3月底開的電價審議委員會，並沒有提到中間要開臨時委員會。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:42.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:44.069000+08:00","text":"確定嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:44.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:46.371000+08:00","text":"到9月之前不會開臨時委員會？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:46.371000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:47.352000+08:00","text":"目前的決議是這樣子。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:47.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:51.255000+08:00","text":"如果會開的話，會有怎樣的情況可能觸發？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:51.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:53.537000+08:00","text":"我要幫大家擔心一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:54.618000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:56.620000+08:00","text":"這個部分世事多變。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:56.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:55:58.822000+08:00","text":"經濟部交代還是有上層交代，你們就會再開？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:55:58.822000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:00.583000+08:00","text":"還是3月決議了就不會開，9月再開？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:03.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:05.832000+08:00","text":"因為要看這個戰事拖延多久。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:06.252000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:07.094000+08:00","text":"所以還是有可能開啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:07.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:08.736000+08:00","text":"只是台電目前的規劃就是到9月這樣。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:09.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:12.061000+08:00","text":"目前沒有，目前狀況是不會再開。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:12.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:12.903000+08:00","text":"以上了解，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:13.403000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:15.403000+08:00","text":"謝謝廖先翔委員。","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:15.703000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:17.417286+08:00","text":"官員請先回座。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T10:56:17.717286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T10:56:20.860143+08:00","text":"下一位請林岱樺委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}