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像這個觀光小兩會如果能夠復談"},{"start":563.89,"end":588.145,"text":"這也是正面的好不好好那最後一個問題那個何局長請回去航港局上次說那個備援船進度怎麼樣要做一條那個藍色公路藍色公路這個構想非常好尤其現在日本我去過日本他們跳島還有現在很多的郵輪郵輪也在跳島"},{"start":591.912,"end":599.339,"text":"非常好的一個公關活動如果這條船在被淵船買了它可以跑澎湖金門馬祖對不對"},{"start":601.894,"end":629.243,"text":"那甚至風浪大的時候都可以救援然後平常沒用的話,我們東營那邊的交通也可以幫忙解決非常好的事情希望你積極的,部長積極推動好不好我們在1月30號已經報到行政院那我們預計希望能夠在118年底能夠交船來正式營運院長的態度怎麼樣?我想院長是支持藍色公路的建制跟備援船的建制"},{"start":630.183,"end":645.909,"text":"好,你趁著院長現在還在,他支持這個案子的院長,你要很積極的去做可是院長下台了嗎?他跑掉了,你要去找新的院長,就很麻煩了好不好?主席你要趕人嗎?趕快走,我去下台吧"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:26.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:26.273000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:28.854000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:30.454000+08:00","text":"中華郵政王董有來嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.695000+08:00","text":"請中華郵政王董事長……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.695000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:32.695000+08:00","text":"沒事，我向老部長請安。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.855000+08:00","text":"請中華電信簡董事長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:31.855000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:32.855000+08:00","text":"請中華電信簡董事長。","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:32.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:25:34.136000+08:00","text":"不要偷懶，跑步跑一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:25:58.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:02.750000+08:00","text":"簡董，二號海纜又斷了，是不是？三號。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:02.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:04.871000+08:00","text":"二號已經斷了，5月底會修好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:05.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:07.173000+08:00","text":"什麼時候修好？5月底。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:08.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:10.014000+08:00","text":"會不會有影響？","quality":1},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:10.794000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:14.276000+08:00","text":"對馬祖的通訊沒有影響，因為三號現在還活著。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:15.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:17.378000+08:00","text":"三號活著？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:17.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:17.858000+08:00","text":"二號斷了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:17.858000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:19.999000+08:00","text":"二號斷了，現在正在修。","quality":0.222},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:19.999000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:20.559000+08:00","text":"二號老掉牙了。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:21.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:24.802000+08:00","text":"二號已經差不多快二十年了。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:25.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:27.414000+08:00","text":"快九十歲了，沒問題吧？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:28.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:29.616000+08:00","text":"現在通訊沒問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:31.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:35.101000+08:00","text":"三號在前兩天因為施工又弄了一些……","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:35.101000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:36.403000+08:00","text":"又弄斷了？","quality":0},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:36.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:38.484000+08:00","text":"沒有斷，沒斷！","quality":1},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:38.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:43.609000+08:00","text":"二十四芯中有十二芯障礙，但有十二芯還通著，所以現在馬祖的通訊沒問題。","quality":0.581},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:43.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:49.574000+08:00","text":"縱使二號、三號都斷了，微波12.6G還可以啟動，目前還沒啟動。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:49.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:51.917000+08:00","text":"好，注意一下，好不好？好。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:26:52.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:26:59.981000+08:00","text":"不要讓我們的老太太、老先生帶著孫子到你們中華電信門口去排隊等，因為只有那邊才收得到訊號。是。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"簡董事長志誠","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:01.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:05.484000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，如果順利，四號海纜6月底會完工。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:06.124000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:07.545000+08:00","text":"我知道，謝謝你，辛苦了。謝謝。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:09.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:10.727000+08:00","text":"主席，請交通部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:10.847000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:10.867000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:10.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:10.987000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:11.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:21.190000+08:00","text":"部長，好久沒見了，有沒有一點想念？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:21.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:23.451000+08:00","text":"不會啦，前兩個禮拜才去您辦公室。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:24.011000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:24.631000+08:00","text":"有來嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:24.631000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:25.931000+08:00","text":"有，我有去。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:27.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:29.032000+08:00","text":"我前兩週才去您辦公室。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:29.032000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:32.152000+08:00","text":"年紀大了，有點忘記。","quality":0.125},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:32.152000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:34.033000+08:00","text":"大橋還是幫我們注意一下，好不好，預算？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:34.533000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:38.794000+08:00","text":"有，一直都在追蹤，如果有新的進度，我們也會向您報告。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:38.794000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:39.794000+08:00","text":"不是光追蹤啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:38.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:39.994000+08:00","text":"我前幾天打電話給您，聽說院長要去馬祖。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:40.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:49.896000+08:00","text":"我們縣長知道院長要去馬祖，卻沒接到說要請他吃飯還是幹什麼。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:49.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:55.600000+08:00","text":"餐廳有訂，因為他在馬祖幹什麼我全部都會知道，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:55.600000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:27:56.600000+08:00","text":"必然的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:27:55.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:01.404000+08:00","text":"不需要透過警察知道，也不需要國安系統，我本人就是國安系統，我幾乎都會知道。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:05.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:10.931000+08:00","text":"他沒邀請我去，他邀請我就會去；不邀請我，我就不去，我覺得這是一個尊重的問題。是、是。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生：我也打電話去院長辦公室，院長辦公室說","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:16.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:18.761000+08:00","text":"有通知你就有通知你，沒通知你就沒通知你。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生：我也打電話去院長辦公室，院長辦公室說","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:18.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:25.582000+08:00","text":"我說好，反正現在院長、總統都很大，我們小老百姓就請你幫我轉告，好不好？","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生：我也打電話去院長辦公室，院長辦公室說","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:26.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:32.804000+08:00","text":"以前在野也是好朋友，現在在朝反而……一定要臉紅脖子粗嗎？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生：我也打電話去院長辦公室，院長辦公室說","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:32.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:32.984000+08:00","text":"是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生：我也打電話去院長辦公室，院長辦公室說","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:33.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:41.206000+08:00","text":"我也沒砍過你預算、也沒罵過你本人、也沒罵過交通部、也沒砍過你交通預算，對不對？是、是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:41.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:49.301000+08:00","text":"已經七年了，大橋的預算不給我，你看誰好惹的話你就惹一下，我沒意見。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:49.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:28:53.426000+08:00","text":"現在跟你談清明連假疏運，都準備好了沒有？","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:28:54.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:29:02.256000+08:00","text":"報告委員，其實全國疏運計畫都已經準備好了，您所提的航空跟海運部分，我們也都準備好了。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:29:03.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:29:10.315000+08:00","text":"你們每一次的ABC計畫，尤其對離島你們準備得非常周到，尤其軍方。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:29:10.315000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:29:14.358000+08:00","text":"軍方C-130現在配合得更好！","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:29:14.358000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:29:15.839000+08:00","text":"是，他們幫很大的忙。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:29:18.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:29:28.206000+08:00","text":"只要民航局有公文到國防部去，他們速度都很快，這一點請交通部這邊花點公關費，有時候跟人家餐敘一下……","quality":0.955},{"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4-01T11:34:46.611000+08:00","text":"如果你有好的建議，像是小兩會能夠針對觀光進行復談，這樣也是正面的，好不好？","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:34:47.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:34:54.936000+08:00","text":"最後一個問題，航港局，上次說的備援船進度如何了？","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:34:56.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:34:57.238000+08:00","text":"要做一條……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:34:59.499000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:34:59.879000+08:00","text":"藍色公路。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:00.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:02.961000+08:00","text":"藍色公路，這個構想非常好啊！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:04.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:15.094000+08:00","text":"像是日本現在有許多郵輪都在做跳島行程，非常好的觀光活動。","quality":0.385},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:15.094000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:20.339000+08:00","text":"如果買了備援船之後，它可以跑澎湖、金門及馬祖，對不對？","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:23.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:24.755000+08:00","text":"甚至風浪大時也可以進行救援。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:24.755000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:26.615000+08:00","text":"是，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:26.615000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:30.576000+08:00","text":"平常不使用時，也可以幫忙解決我們東引那邊的交通問題，非常好的設計。是。","quality":0.452},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:32.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:34.938000+08:00","text":"希望部長能積極推動，好不好？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:35.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:43.941000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們在1月30日已經報到行政院，預計希望能在118年底交船正式營運。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:43.941000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:44.501000+08:00","text":"院長的態度如何？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:45.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:49.983000+08:00","text":"我想院長是支持藍色公路的建置及備援船的建置。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:51.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:56.085000+08:00","text":"好，你趁著院長還在、還支持這個案子，你要很積極去做。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:56.085000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:35:57.145000+08:00","text":"是，已經送到院裡了。","quality":0.125},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:35:57.145000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:03.428000+08:00","text":"不然院長下台了、跑掉了，你還要找新的院長支持，這樣就很麻煩了，好不好？","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:03.428000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:04.428000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:04.428000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:05.428000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:04.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:05.189000+08:00","text":"主席，你要趕人嗎？對。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員雪生","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:06.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:06.889000+08:00","text":"那我就下來吧！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:07.389000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:09.389000+08:00","text":"恭送陳雪生委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:09.689000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:10.831857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:11.131857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:13.989000+08:00","text":"謝謝陳雪生委員的發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:14.289000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:17.717571+08:00","text":"接下來邀請邱若華委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}