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報告委員這是非常不好的一個行為啦那過去在我們的這個高速公路也曾經發生過類似的問題所以這幾年我們在高速公路也好或者是省道也好我們都已經有一個比較標準化的定型化契約在執行那我認為那是很好的範例所以我們交通部也決定說要來協助所有的地方趕快來修訂這個定型化契約"},{"start":282.318,"end":308.494,"text":"不得記載事項並希望能夠建立全國統一的收費標準部長這項工作將會如何是可以完成這個不一定有辦法全國制定一個統一的標準因為每個地方的成本不一定一樣但是我們希望每個地方政府都可以訂定出適合他們當地的一個收費標準我們昨天已經開了第一次會議就是全國各縣市大家一起來開這個會議以我們高速公路跟公路總局"},{"start":308.874,"end":336.753,"text":"他們審到上面的這個定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項的這個範例來做一個推演我們希望各縣市都能夠定出來因為現在消費者遇到這樣的糾紛那只能去尋求消保官嘛那地方政府也遇到這樣的問題那所以蘇俊斌副市長他特別提到嘛那包括要修改消保法然後賦予執法人員讓他們可以盡以裁罰的權利那交通部有沒有針對這個跟內政部然後還有其他相關的部會討論"},{"start":339.191,"end":359,"text":"報告委員這個部分我們目前應該還沒有跟他們來做溝通那希望可以針對這一點交通部就是跟其他部會一起進行討論因為目前熱線室的消防官他們只能獨自的去面對特殊背景的業者嘛那所以希望部長您提到就是全國統一有一個困難那是不是可以透過修法呢"},{"start":359.819,"end":387.271,"text":"修法的部分我們會先匯集大家地方政府大家的意見我們在昨天有開過會議了或許已經有些意見的整合那如果有需要我們交通部這邊來協助去溝通其他部會那我們也嘗試看看來做溝通因為現在就是沒有明確的收費的基準所以法院跟消防官他就沒有辦法去認定業者是否有涉及暴力所以我這邊我也提出希望交通部可以比照我們是希望是不是可以比照"},{"start":390.318,"end":405.951,"text":"快速道路跟高速公路的救援標準跟委員報告昨天其實我們大概都有找地方政府來做一個討論那我們也有告訴地方政府說為什麼我們沒有辦法訂一個統一的標準"},{"start":406.852,"end":436.161,"text":"因為每個地方的特性真的差異很大那我們訂那個應記載不得記載事項的目的呢就是希望說地方政府能夠依照他的特性來訂定不同的一個收費標準然後來做他後續執法的一個依據那另外在那個那個消保法裡面其實對於只要有違規的部分其實現在的處分就已經甚至已經可以到停業的部分所以這個部分消保法已經有一個"},{"start":437.262,"end":460.199,"text":"規範可以做出因為前面一段都是要求他們限期改善嘛限期改善不完成的話也是可以去做停止他的產品的一個規定就是簡單說就是他必須做停業的動作那我們也如果說他被其實在這個停業動作之前他們都已經不知道坑殺了多少民眾了嘛那我們這邊是不是那我們拖掉收費的指引呢是不是能夠落實一個定型化契約"},{"start":461.219,"end":486.92,"text":"因為我們因記載不得記載事項裡面就會有包括所有的項目就是說哪些可以收費的項目我們都會訂在裡面那超出這些項目的部分就不能去收費那昨天當然有一番討論大概大家有不同的意見我們還會持續收集大家的意見就項目的部分會再去因記載不得記載事項裡面再做一些訂定跟釐定那超出這些項目的部分原則上就是不能再去"},{"start":487.5,"end":514.369,"text":"召開第一次會議那我這邊後續也會持續關心那這邊好那也請部長重視這個問題那部長接著請教那麼談到桃園國際機場那最新的雅虎民調它有顯示超過六成的民眾都支持機場開放多元計程車那在數位轉型之下呢那日本的成田機場韓國仁川機場還有新加坡的仗義機場他們都已經提供了多元的接送選擇民眾可以用APP來叫車"},{"start":515.009,"end":541.13,"text":"那交通部目前規劃是一一六年要在松山還有小港機場事辦可是旅運量最大的桃園機場卻沒有在事辦名單那什麼時候可以納入桃園機場是請局長先跟委員報告有關這個開放事辦那因為每個機場特性不同因為譬如說松山機場它位在市區那高雄地區的話高雄機場因為它對於南部台南等等的"},{"start":541.61,"end":561.522,"text":"那有一些需求那桃園機場其實它本身有自立委員會那你們要試辦之前都有進行過評估嗎基本上我們內部有先評估一下那可是因為這是一個試辦計畫所以我們是認為說是先從高雄機場來先試辦那各自的評估條件可能桃機公司這邊也可以再進一步評估這個部分"},{"start":563.243,"end":583.582,"text":"那我們初步在做的時候 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非常感謝邱若驊委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:28.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:28.297000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:28.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:33.079000+08:00","text":"主席，先請臺灣高鐵史哲董事長。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:33.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:34.099000+08:00","text":"我們請高鐵總經理，因為董事長請假。","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:34.099000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:35.099000+08:00","text":"董事長請假？","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:35.099000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:36.099000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:34.940000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:34.940000+08:00","text":"請總經理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:45.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:36:45.534000+08:00","text":"總經理好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:36:46.174000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:37:24.021000+08:00","text":"今天要與你討論的議題，稍早時召委也提出過關心，2025年高鐵的全年運量是8,207萬人次，平均每日的運量也高達22萬人次，此外，我們最近也看到國際機場2026年最新的入境人數達到418萬人次、出境也有432萬人次，其中春節連假當日超過16萬人次、228連假也有15萬人次，無論是通勤或前往桃園機場，許多民眾都選擇搭乘高鐵，列車大型行李放置空間不足的問題也長期普遍存在著民怨。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:37:24.761000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:37:37.471000+08:00","text":"尤其是在國際觀光復甦後及連續假期的時間，往返桃園機場的旅客攜帶28吋以上的行李箱常面臨沒有地方放置的問題，最後只能占用走道，也影響了動線。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:37:37.691000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:37:45.517000+08:00","text":"許多乘客反映大型行李區被小型行李占據，請問高鐵現在能放的行李件數有多少？","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:37:47.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:01.684000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們的舊車原來是35，現在已經增加到45，新車可以到110，但是在新車還沒導入之前，我們舊車也準備要改到80，目前正在進行中。","quality":0.712},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:02.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:03.306000+08:00","text":"什麼時候可以改到80？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:08.350000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:14.673000+08:00","text":"我們預計今年年底看能不能改完，因為目前車子只能利用非尖峰時段拖下來改裝。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:15.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:26.097000+08:00","text":"很明顯的，現在已經不符合旅運需求，單日也有6、7萬人次搭乘臺灣高鐵，你們有沒有估算過機場旅客攜帶大型行李的比例？","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:28.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:41.077000+08:00","text":"我們是有分析，目前最大的問題是許多旅客將28吋行李放在行李架裡面，其實我們在行李架上都有貼標示請大家配合。","quality":0.771},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:42.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:51.386000+08:00","text":"今年你們也有公告，小型行李應該放在座位上方，行李不得占用走道及車門，你們有沒有宣傳及教育民眾呢？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:51.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:53.528000+08:00","text":"有，這些都有公布。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:53.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:54.169000+08:00","text":"效果如何？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:54.709000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:56.190000+08:00","text":"憑良心講，效果還是很有限。","quality":0.364},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:56.190000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:38:58.112000+08:00","text":"效果有限嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:38:58.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:39:08.382000+08:00","text":"我看到你們今年2月在臉書上的宣導，按讚數只有142、留言數是3則、分享數是7次、總共觀看次數是8,549次。","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:39:08.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:39:15.949000+08:00","text":"面對每天都有那麼多民眾搭乘高鐵，我們這邊要如何提升再加強宣導呢？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:39:16.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:39:25.055000+08:00","text":"其實我們在現場有保全、列車長及服務人員，當下看到有這種情況時也會宣導。","quality":0.656},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:39:25.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:39:41.365000+08:00","text":"在我搭乘時也碰過這樣的問題，因為大型行李已經沒地方放，只能放在座位前面，乘務員還要再告訴民眾將行李放到大型行李放置處，但問題就是沒有地方放嘛！","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:39:42.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:39:51.559000+08:00","text":"我們從4月1日之後，在車上會放置一個QR code，需要列車長服務時可以透過QR code提出反映。","quality":0.744},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:39:51.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:01.667000+08:00","text":"因為我還去你們的app上面看，在app上確實沒有宣導這一塊，而臉書上的宣傳效果明顯也沒有很好，所以今天要向高鐵了解，是不是可以再透過其他的方式？","quality":0.687},{"speaker":"陳總經理惠裕","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:03.689000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:04.950000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分，我們會再加強。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:05.110000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:12.075000+08:00","text":"請再加強對民眾教育及宣導，不要一上車就把小型行李放在大型行李放置處。","quality":0.719},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:12.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:13.737000+08:00","text":"這邊再請交通部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:13.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:13.977000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:20.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:21.040000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:21.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:21.802000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:22.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:32.239000+08:00","text":"部長，上週3月26日行政院院會，桃園市的蘇俊賓副市長特別提出防螂3箭，直指當前的拖吊蟑螂橫行，關於拖吊蟑螂，部長，你怎麼看？","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:35.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:38.300000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這是非常不好的一個行為。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:40:38.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:40:56.132000+08:00","text":"過去在高速公路也曾經發生過類似的問題，因此，這幾年在高速公路也好、在省道也好，我們已經有一個比較標準化的定型化契約在執行，我認為那是很好的範例，所以我們交通部也決定協助所有地方趕快修訂這個定型化契約。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:41:06.318000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:41:13.603000+08:00","text":"確實目前在高速公路及快速道路都有明確的訂定，蘇俊賓副市長也呼籲中央應該制定車輛拖吊服務定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項，並希望能建立全國統一的收費標準，部長，這項工作交通部何時能夠完成？","quality":0.345},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:41:13.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:41:23.849000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這個不一定有辦法全國制定一個統一的標準，因為每個地方的成本不一定一樣，但是我們希望每個地方政府都能訂定出適合當地的收費標準。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:41:24.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:41:42.300000+08:00","text":"昨天我們已經召開第一次會議，全國各縣市大家一起參與這個會議，以我們高速公路及公路總局針對省道上的定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項的範例做一個推演，我們希望各縣市都能夠訂出來。","quality":0.866},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:41:42.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:00.753000+08:00","text":"現在消費者遇到這樣的糾紛，只能尋求消保官的協助，地方政府也遇到了這樣的問題，所以蘇俊賓副市長特別提出，包括修改消保法，賦予執法人員可以逕行裁罰的權力，交通部是否有針對這個部分與內政部及其他相關部會討論？","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:03.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:05.872000+08:00","text":"報告委員，目前我們還未針對這個部分與他們進行溝通。","quality":0.522},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:07.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:11.855000+08:00","text":"希望可以針對這一點，交通部能與其他部會一起討論。好。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:11.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:22.980000+08:00","text":"因為目前各縣市消保官只能獨自面對特殊背景的業者，既然部長提到全國統一會有困難，是不是可以透過修法呢？","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:23.819000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:37.525000+08:00","text":"修法的部分，我們會先匯集地方政府的意見，昨天也已經開過會議、也已經有一些意見的整合，如果需要我們交通部協助與其他部會溝通，我們也會嘗試去做溝通。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:38.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:42:58.422000+08:00","text":"現在就是沒有明確的收費基準，因此法院及消保官就沒有辦法認定業者是否涉及暴利，所以我在這裡提出希望交通部可以比照快速道路及高速公路的救援標準。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:42:58.422000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:00.984000+08:00","text":"是，我請司長說明。","quality":0},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:00.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:26.257000+08:00","text":"報告委員，昨天我們其實也找了地方政府一起討論，也告訴地方政府為什麼我們沒辦法訂定統一的標準，因為每個地方的特性真的差異很大，我們訂定應記載及不得記載事項的目的，就是希望地方政府能依照其特性訂定不同的收費標準作為後續執法的依據。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:27.497000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:41.382000+08:00","text":"另外，消保法針對有違規的部分，現在的處分甚至已經可以達到停業的程度，所以消保法已經有一個規範可以處理。","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:41.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:44.384000+08:00","text":"目前都是要求他們限期改善嘛！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:44.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:53.591000+08:00","text":"限期改善不完成的話，也是可以做停止產品的處罰，簡單講就是必須做停業的動作。","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:54.872000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:43:55.512000+08:00","text":"如果它被……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:43:55.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:44:04.199000+08:00","text":"在這個停業動作之前，他們都已經不知道坑殺了多少民眾，因此，拖吊收費的指引是不是能夠落實，也就是一個定型化契約？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:44:05.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:44:16.508000+08:00","text":"在我們應記載及不得記載事項裡就會包括所有的項目，譬如哪些可以收費的項目都會訂在裡面，超出這些項目的部分就不能收費。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"胡司長迪琦","start":"2026-04-01T11:44:16.668000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:44:30.759000+08:00","text":"昨天當然有一番討論，大概也都有不同的意見，我們還會持續收集大家的意見，就項目的部分於應記載及不得記載事項裡再做一些訂定與釐訂，超出這些項目的部分，原則上就是不能再……","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:44:31.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:44:36.462000+08:00","text":"昨天你們召開第一次會議，我這邊後續也會持續關心，也請部長重視這個問題。好。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:44:37.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:10.218000+08:00","text":"部長，接著要談的是桃園國際機場，最新的雅虎民調顯示有超過六成的民眾都支持機場開放多元計程車，在數位轉型之下，日本的成田機場、韓國的仁川機場及新加坡的樟宜機場都已經提供多元的接送選擇，民眾可以使用app叫車，目前交通部的規劃是116年在松山及小港機場試辦，但是旅運量最大的桃園機場卻不在試辦名單，什麼時候可以納入桃園機場？","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:11.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:12.740000+08:00","text":"請局長來說明。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"何局長淑萍","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:13.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:29.532000+08:00","text":"報告委員，關於開放試辦的部分，因為每個機場的特性不同，譬如松山機場位在市區、小港機場則是因為南部的高雄及臺南等等有一些需求，而桃園機場本身有自律委員會……","quality":0.686},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:31.233000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:32.934000+08:00","text":"試辦之前都有進行過評估嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何局長淑萍","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:32.934000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:45.342000+08:00","text":"基本上，我們內部有先評估一下，因為這是一項試辦計畫，所以我們認為先從高雄機場試辦，至於各自的評估條件，可能桃機公司這邊也可以再進一步評估。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"何局長淑萍","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:47.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:45:55.571000+08:00","text":"我們初步在做的時候，基本上，法規是可以容納每個機場根據其需求做不同的試辦計畫，這個部分是在……","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:45:55.931000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:02.538000+08:00","text":"希望後續也能納入桃園機場，請你們也針對桃園機場做一個評估報告，好不好？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"何局長淑萍","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:02.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:06.201000+08:00","text":"關於這個部分，我們會再與桃機一起討論。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:06.201000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:07.201000+08:00","text":"OK，謝謝部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:06.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:07.582000+08:00","text":"非常感謝邱若華委員。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:08.082000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:11.510571+08:00","text":"接下來邀請徐富癸委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}