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董事長這是很嚴重的問題我們的年輕的同仁不願意待在台鐵那未來連甚至很多我們屏東的鄉親現在分化在東部的 北部的都調步回來這是怎麼安居樂業 董事長這個問題到底有檢討嗎"},{"start":564.354,"end":590.795,"text":"確實啦這個人力的問題是在台鐵也是一樣遭遇到這個問題尤其在這個吊車的事情這個又複雜度比較高所以有很多但是呢公司能夠做的就是我們除了改善整個環境包括我們檢討我們SOP譬如說我們如果是車動人就不動這樣的一個要求我們會落實那減少這樣的一個不幸的事情發生"},{"start":592.616,"end":619.538,"text":"總統最後一個問題 這一分鐘不好意思我想我要幫我們的這個長輩來請命一下當初這個我之前有跟你提過我們現在屏東縣的敬老卡我們有每個月一千塊的額度那我們的鄉親他有的時候要去坐火車去高雄台南甚至去東部他們現在只能不能坐對號的一個車子只能說刷那個路卡但是非常非常的不方便"},{"start":620.719,"end":644.327,"text":"我認為這是對你們來講是一個很大的一個商機所以我有請你們研究結果你們跟我說回應的部分是說更改這個相關的設備總共要花六千兩百萬是的而且你們是希望地方政府來分攤這實在是很不得力的啦甚至你們在賺錢這樣叫地方政府來分攤很不得力的董事長我覺得花六千兩百萬可以帶給台鐵幾百億的商機為什麼你不做這部分有什麼困難"},{"start":649.07,"end":664.138,"text":"這個跟委員報告確實因為改這個系統而且是所有的公司所有地方政府他可能他的這個社福卡跟台鐵要連接的話其實系統都要改所以這一部分的話這個發射這個錢"},{"start":665.979,"end":679.988,"text":"那我們希望說呢 這個當然還是要地方政府這邊因為我們的冰湯的大眾交通工具還是不普及啦所以這部分還是要拜託一下來客錄一下啦 好不好 謝謝我們還是希望說這個財源如果有問題有的話我們也會全力來配合辦理啦"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:28.413000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:31.684000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請我們陳部長、觀光署陳署長。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:31.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:31.905000+08:00","text":"請陳部長、陳署長。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:37.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:37.229000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:38.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:46:39.570000+08:00","text":"部長好、署長好。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:46:39.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:47:01.801000+08:00","text":"部長，還是要回歸到主要的正題，去年的總預算到目前為止已經二百多天未曾審查，對於中央或地方都是很大的行政衝擊，我覺得有許多公務同仁都很緊張、壓力也很大。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:47:03.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:47:35.323000+08:00","text":"觀光署今年提出了觀光雙輪驅動方案，針對國旅的平日補助編列23億元左右的預算，我想這是一個很好的措施，但是，部長，你看這幾個項目，因為不是新增的獨立項目，而是一個延續性的計畫，由於總預算沒有通過的關係，如果依照目前的規範來講，會不會受到打折的影響？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:47:35.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:47:39.305000+08:00","text":"你們的推動會不會看得到吃不到？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:47:39.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:47:40.906000+08:00","text":"會不會有這個狀況出現？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:47:40.906000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:47:44.549000+08:00","text":"報告委員，其實國人都相當期待，尤其是平日住宿的優惠。是。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:47:45.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:03.388000+08:00","text":"國人期待、旅宿業者也期待，對於生日的住宿優惠，國人也是相當相當期待，你列出的每一樣都是國人期待的，但是現在總預算沒過，我們原本預定4月就要開始啟動的平日住宿優惠計畫也就停擺。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:03.388000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:09.414000+08:00","text":"坦白講，預算沒過，我們就沒辦法支應、也沒辦法做，詳細的部分請署長來回答。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳署長玉秀","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:11.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:20.909000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心這個議題，今年提出這個方案確實是產業界與民眾都非常的期待，也都一直持續地詢問觀光署。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳署長玉秀","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:21.890000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:35.483000+08:00","text":"主要是這個預算編列在觀光署的單位預算裡面，而且是觀光業務工作計畫項下，但是因為超過去年的總執行數，還是得要經過立法院的預算審議才能動支。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:36.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:40.529000+08:00","text":"總預算若是沒有通過，這個可能還是會打折？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳署長玉秀","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:40.529000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:41.529000+08:00","text":"這個就沒辦法執行。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:41.529000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:48:42.529000+08:00","text":"會打折？對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:48:41.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:49:15.036000+08:00","text":"部長、署長，我還是要提出一個想法，因為今年至少有9個連續假期，尤其最近清明連假將至，我知道目前恆春半島的訂房率大概已經突破八、九成，當然是很好，但是我認為我們不能期待這九個連假能帶動整個國旅市場，甚至對觀光業的衝擊也還是很大，藉由這個平日國旅的優惠，我想我們一定要支持這個案子，同時也是觀光業者的期待。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:49:16.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:49:23.758000+08:00","text":"即使總預算沒有過，但我們還是應該持續想辦法看要如何處理，部長願意支持這樣的說法嗎？","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:49:23.758000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:49:30.900000+08:00","text":"我們希望能夠往前推進，不過，錢的部分，沒有錢其實很難做事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:49:32.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:49:43.562000+08:00","text":"至於委員的期待與業者的期待，我們也都知道，如果可以提早啟動，我們也希望能夠提早啟動，不過，我們還是要呼籲立法院，總預算要趕快過，民眾的期待才有辦法真正的落實。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:49:45.705000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:00.896000+08:00","text":"總預算沒有過，我也很擔心我們屏東縣幾項重大交通建設受到影響，所以還是要請教部長，第一個，高鐵南延屏東的部分，今年原本預定的六塊厝車站站體遷移會不會受到影響？","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T11:50:00.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:11.304000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，我們目前正在趕緊加緊腳步處理這件事情，不過預算的部分有沒有影響到這件事，我請局長來回答一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊局長正君","start":"2026-04-01T11:50:12.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:31.865000+08:00","text":"六塊厝這個計畫，我們現在優先爭取行政院來核定，如果核定的話，因為去年並沒有編這個六塊厝計畫在115年的預算裡面，但我們可以透過公建計畫的相關勻支去處理，我想現在優先的目標還是要爭取核定。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:50:32.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:43.785000+08:00","text":"我想我們要加快速度，要不然目前我們的規劃是2039年通車，如果因為這樣今年暫停沒辦法動工，是不是期程要往後延？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:50:44.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:46.646000+08:00","text":"這個我們非常非常的擔心，所以我們要加快期程。是。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:50:47.546000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:50:54.108000+08:00","text":"第二個就是高屏二快，我想高屏二快也是預計今年要動工的一個重要的交通項目。","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:"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:55:41.910000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:55:42.710000+08:00","text":"董事長，這個問題到底有沒有檢討？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"鄭董事長光遠","start":"2026-04-01T11:55:46.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:56:12.775000+08:00","text":"確實這個人力的問題，在臺鐵也是一樣遭遇到這個問題，尤其在調車的事情，這個複雜度又比較高，但是公司能夠做的就是除了改善整個環境，包括檢討SOP，譬如說如果是車動人就不動，這樣的要求我們會落實，減少這樣的不幸的事情發生。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:56:14.616000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:56:17.219000+08:00","text":"好，最後一個問題，請再給我一分鐘，不好意思，謝謝主席。","quality":0.591},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:56:17.719000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:56:41.518000+08:00","text":"我想要幫我們的長輩來請命一下，董事長，我之前跟你提過，我們現在屏東縣的敬老卡每個月有1,000塊的額度，我們的鄉親有的時候要去坐火車，去高雄、臺南，甚至去東部，他們現在不能坐對號的列車，只能刷那個卡，但是非常非常的不方便。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:56:42.719000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:56:53.603000+08:00","text":"我認為這對你們來講是一個很大的商機，所以我有請你們研究，結果你們回應說，更改這個相關的設備總共要花6,200萬。是的。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:56:54.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:00.565000+08:00","text":"而且你們是希望地方政府來分攤，這實在很沒道理，是你們在賺錢，卻叫地方政府來分攤，非常沒道理。","quality":0.756},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:01.946000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:06.327000+08:00","text":"董事長，我覺得花6,200萬可以帶給臺鐵好幾百億的商機，為什麼你們不做，這部分有什麼困難？","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"鄭董事長光遠","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:11.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:31.581000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，確實因為要改這個系統，而且是所有的地方政府，可能他的社福卡要跟臺鐵連接的話，其實系統都要改，所以這個部分發生的這個錢，我們希望當然還是要地方政府這邊能夠來……","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:31.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:38.986000+08:00","text":"因為我們屏東的大眾交通工具還是不普及，所以這部分還是要拜託一下，來考慮一下好不好？謝謝。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"鄭董事長光遠","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:38.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:41.947000+08:00","text":"我們還是希望這個財源如果有問題……有的話我們也會全力來配合辦理，謝謝委員指教。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:42.447000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:46.161286+08:00","text":"謝謝臺鐵，我們謝謝徐富癸委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T11:57:46.461286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T11:57:50.175571+08:00","text":"接下來我們請許智傑委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}