{"error":false,"id":["168151"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":168151,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168151","日期":"2026-04-01","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-5-23-4","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":4,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[23],"委員會代碼:str":["交通委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-04-01T11:57:57+08:00","結束時間":"2026-04-01T12:08:17+08:00","影片長度":"00:10:20","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c3b0dcd7524819f07e62ad2ff7c694815994a069f48f295f30cc001442e8e29285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"許智傑","委員發言時間":"11:57:57 - 12:08:17","會議時間":"2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":4.72221875,"end":8.56971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":8.56971875,"end":9.41346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":10.51034375,"end":10.746593750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":11.40471875,"end":12.535343750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":16.21409375,"end":16.88909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":16.973468750000002,"end":19.06596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":19.605968750000002,"end":22.39034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":22.72784375,"end":23.85846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":24.31409375,"end":31.047218750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":30.996593750000002,"end":31.840343750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":31.469093750000003,"end":33.274718750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":33.93284375,"end":37.30784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":37.712843750000005,"end":40.07534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":40.48034375,"end":58.924718750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":59.24534375,"end":63.88596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":64.44284375000001,"end":70.51784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":70.65284375,"end":73.16721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":73.96034375,"end":92.65784375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":92.74221875,"end":94.93596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":95.15534375,"end":120.56909375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":120.90659375000001,"end":132.01034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":132.80346875,"end":135.50346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":133.98471875,"end":134.30534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":136.26284375,"end":136.93784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":137.05596875,"end":137.71409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":137.71409375000002,"end":138.01784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":137.73096875000002,"end":137.74784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":137.76471875000001,"end":137.95034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":138.01784375,"end":138.13596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":138.50721875000002,"end":143.38409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":143.62034375000002,"end":149.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":149.89784375000002,"end":150.20159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":150.60659375,"end":153.35721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":153.61034375,"end":157.81221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":158.43659375000001,"end":164.15721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":164.32596875000002,"end":167.05971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":164.42721875,"end":164.66346875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":167.53221875,"end":183.37784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":183.59721875000002,"end":207.76221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":207.32346875000002,"end":208.96034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":208.33596875,"end":208.84221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":208.89284375000003,"end":217.17846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":217.66784375,"end":242.22096875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":242.22096875000003,"end":258.97784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":258.97784375000003,"end":265.15409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":265.60971875,"end":280.29096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":280.86471875,"end":283.31159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":284.27346875,"end":284.37471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":284.74596875000003,"end":286.72034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":289.43721875,"end":295.71471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":295.74846875000003,"end":296.96346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":297.16596875000005,"end":301.26659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":301.35096875,"end":304.65846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":304.81034375,"end":310.19346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":309.38346875,"end":314.66534375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":315.55971875,"end":329.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":329.11034375,"end":331.57409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":332.08034375,"end":334.69596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":333.91971875,"end":335.69159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":335.74221875,"end":349.09034375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":346.17096875000004,"end":346.22159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":346.42409375,"end":349.03971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":349.66409375,"end":353.64659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":354.10221875,"end":359.08034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":359.60346875000005,"end":361.02096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":361.71284375000005,"end":370.89284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":371.83784375000005,"end":372.58034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":373.10346875000005,"end":379.78596875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":380.14034375,"end":403.95096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":403.54596875000004,"end":403.59659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":403.59659375,"end":404.05221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":404.05221875,"end":404.86221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":404.86221875,"end":404.89596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":404.89596875,"end":405.03096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":405.03096875,"end":409.99221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":407.25846875,"end":407.61284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":410.05971875,"end":415.99971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":416.13471875000005,"end":416.45534375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":416.26971875000004,"end":416.28659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":416.28659375,"end":418.75034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":416.45534375000005,"end":416.47221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":419.08784375000005,"end":423.10409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":423.52596875,"end":429.76971875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":430.98471875,"end":431.57534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":431.06909375000004,"end":435.13596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":432.38534375,"end":433.61721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":434.88284375,"end":440.45159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":441.07596875,"end":443.57346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":444.38346875,"end":461.20784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":461.78159375,"end":465.66284375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":466.18596875000003,"end":471.43409375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":473.07096875,"end":477.15471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":477.37409375000004,"end":511.88346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":482.09909375,"end":482.50409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":511.61346875000004,"end":528.30284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":521.2153437500001,"end":521.28284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":527.8134687500001,"end":530.58096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":528.89346875,"end":540.38534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":540.9422187499999,"end":549.2109687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":547.2365937500001,"end":547.57409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":549.31221875,"end":549.39659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":549.39659375,"end":549.4978437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":549.4978437500001,"end":549.6328437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":549.6328437500001,"end":553.6997187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":549.7509687500001,"end":549.9365937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":553.9697187500001,"end":556.83846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":556.83846875,"end":556.9734687499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":556.9734687499999,"end":558.5090937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":557.2097187500001,"end":558.3234687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":560.07846875,"end":560.7197187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":561.36096875,"end":566.8115937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":566.8115937499999,"end":567.1997187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":567.1997187500001,"end":577.25721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":577.25721875,"end":577.6453437499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":577.4428437500001,"end":594.13221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":587.1628437500001,"end":587.21346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":587.39909375,"end":587.51721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":594.4865937500001,"end":596.4272187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":596.4272187500001,"end":596.4609687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":598.4353437500001,"end":603.70034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":603.9197187500001,"end":606.8559687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":605.9953437500001,"end":606.40034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":607.05846875,"end":617.8584687499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":611.6653437500001,"end":612.40784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":614.93909375,"end":616.3059687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":617.8584687499999,"end":618.9553437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":618.9553437500001,"end":620.2040937500001}],"whisperx":[{"start":4.741,"end":12.258,"text":"好 謝謝主席我們請部長跟公路局長請陳部長請公路局局長"},{"start":16.263,"end":39.792,"text":"委員好部長好那個台86這個我有跟局長討論過了啦那就是說這整個我們的建設其實是非常的重要所以需要部長再給我們侃奉一下那就是說我們高雄東高雄就是往台南這邊以前都是走縣道"},{"start":41.372,"end":61.389,"text":"就是市道啦 現在是182那現在就是說我們需要說如果說台86可以銜接上的話對於東高雄從內門往台南這樣子的互動事實上非常的有幫助所以現在的進度就是說是不是請部長跟局長公開給我們砍縫一下預計"},{"start":66.152,"end":87.221,"text":"2028開始動工2034可以完工嗎這個部分是不是請那個局長先說明一下首先我跟委員報告一下就是說這個台86前面一段大概就是說跨過台16甲連接這個國道3號那委員講的是後半段就是說這個在過去跟這個182然後到這個屏東這個內門這個地方"},{"start":92.984,"end":112.119,"text":"那這個案子目前這個中規已經這個定案了那目前是在做這個環評的審查那環評審查的部分上次有一些意見我們是希望說在6月可以通過這個環評那6月通過環評我們希望這個就是說這個臨底可以提報這個"},{"start":113.74,"end":130.459,"text":"整個10層的規劃的話上次大概也跟委員這個報告大概前面一段因為前面一段那個現在建設計畫是在院裡面待這個核定那那個部分的預估完工時間是121年那後半段這個部分的話預計完工時間是122年"},{"start":133.888,"end":157.179,"text":"122年所以還有7年所以跟部長報告一下就是其實東高雄我一直在推動東高雄的觀光跟交通跟醫療的提升那就是說東高雄現在像我們內門現在那邊有個動物學校其實那個是那個"},{"start":158.817,"end":166.593,"text":"場景式的觀察而不是只是去看動物園它是去體驗所以東高雄包括我們的假日"},{"start":167.628,"end":191.3,"text":"就是包括內門動物學校 包括祁山老街 包括美濃客家文化甚至再到裡面茂林紫斑蝶等等的相關的寶萊的溫泉那這些其實可以做一個整體的套裝的規劃那當然這個我們也有跟公共署在要求說怎麼樣有機會把茂林國家風水區延伸到整個東高雄"},{"start":192.08,"end":208.765,"text":"那當然現在比較重要的就是說交通要先通暢就是說在這個台88這一條線其實對東高雄的發展非常的重要所以剛剛局長也有跟大家報告過也請部長能夠大力支持好 我們全力來推動 速度加快"},{"start":209.205,"end":225.706,"text":"那另外就是說包括這個有沒有機會台灣好行因為東高雄的觀光事實上它的交通真的是比較不容易比如說你如果要去寶萊的話可能你要到旗山轉運站再轉六龜再轉寶萊"},{"start":227.448,"end":241.804,"text":"那像這個一個溫泉特區如果有機會我們來開發的話就是說能夠讓這個交通先行才有辦法所以是不是請部長也指示署長跟局長重視我們這邊的交通跟觀光"},{"start":242.344,"end":264.682,"text":"是我們針對整體的交通,除了硬體建設之外,您剛剛所提到的公共運輸的部分,我們應該要來關注那台灣好行的路線,或許我們可以檢討一下,如果真的有這樣子的觀光的資源在那個地方,我們也希望說公共運輸可以到達我想這個是雞生蛋、蛋生雞的問題啦就是說目前就是說,當然他一直覺得還有提升的空間"},{"start":265.843,"end":285.545,"text":"那當然就是在地的整個設施要去加強之外,其實交通就是一個非常重要的路線所以是不是有機會就是說我們的台86之外,台灣好行這邊公路局可以先協助台灣好行應該是公共署這邊我們請公共署這邊來協助"},{"start":289.965,"end":314.469,"text":"謝謝委員提問 上次我們也有討論到這件事情確實在交通的部分 確實是能讓大家到的景點加上東高雄那相關的觀光資源也非常的豐富那這個部分我們現在是請報館處這邊一起在來提出申請跟所有相關的評估跟怎麼去做串聯 以上先做調查之前我提到有沒有可能把貿易國家貨幣區把東高雄通通納入"},{"start":316.216,"end":331.248,"text":"這個上次因為委員一直很關心這個項目 對不對那我們說這件事情要再跟高雄市政府還有屏東縣政府一起討論要由地方政府提出來然後這個才能進入到我們的程序裡面來"},{"start":332.129,"end":360.807,"text":"所以地方政府先提你們是後面地方政府要先提OK好那我再跟地方溝通一下謝謝好那這個東高雄就拜託那個署長跟局長多幫忙部長就盡量點頭就好好這個東高雄的支持很重要好那再來就是那個我們的那個交通交易園區這個也公路局也不簡單啦事實上台灣現在設了兩個地方嘛"},{"start":362.754,"end":372.352,"text":"北台灣在桃園那南台灣是在高雄我們鳳山監理所的所在地那這個已經做好了嘛還沒有啟用"},{"start":373.531,"end":397.974,"text":"是的原則上大概做好了那之前高雄區監獄所是試營運那最近大概我去看我跟我們曾經是有去看了一次那裡面有一些標線可能要再做一個調整那目前我是請局裡面的教官組再幫忙做一個調整那有些東西有這個脫落的部分我們重新再做一個處理完之後那我想"},{"start":398.755,"end":415.417,"text":"這個我們再規劃一個這個時間然後這個邀請委員一起來做這個邀請部長一起來不是 正式啟用一定會跟委員報告邀請委員的那個一起來參與我想在這個之前我希望說很多配套交通部可能也必須要思考"},{"start":416.358,"end":443.028,"text":"因為這個部分其實日本的教育你看日本的兒童過馬路都會舉手部長知道嗎是 我知道這個已經養成習慣你看台灣人小朋友過馬路有沒有都舉手比較沒有現在開始有一些小朋友會舉手所以這個就是從其實這個交通安全其實教育是從小慢慢的小時候走路再來"},{"start":444.914,"end":471.201,"text":"讀國中可能騎腳踏車吧再來騎摩托車這個其實你從小就培養這樣子一個教育的觀念交通教育的觀念這個對於整體這個是後面長久會影響的所以我是覺得我們這個交通公園是不是交通部有跟教育部有結合去思考一些怎麼樣去推動兒童交通教育而不是說這個設施做好了如果沒有跟教育部結合有可能去的人還是不多"},{"start":473.48,"end":492.787,"text":"跟我也報告一下目前大概就是因為美國交通公園所在還是有地域性這一個可及的一個課題所以目前大概就是說有我們在地譬如說像在桃園建立站的部分的話大概是新出所跟大桃園地區的一個幼稚園教學學校的教學來相結合"},{"start":493.627,"end":520.801,"text":"那目前在這個高雄區建議所的這個部分的話也是跟高雄大高雄地區來做這個部分的一個結合那剛剛委員所提到的我想局裡面這邊再來跟教育部相關單位就是說有一些中央比較一致性的原則的一個部分的話我們跟教育部再來做一個所以你們還沒跟教育部接觸像委員報告以桃園為案例我們不是跟教育部這邊來做接觸跟合作是跟地方的教育局"},{"start":521.341,"end":536.166,"text":"那地方的教育局他們就會找在地的例如說小學或者是幼兒園一起來這個園區裡面做交通案例所以現在有跟高雄市教育局聯絡了嗎那高雄的部分我們如果正式要啟動的時候也會跟地方的教育局來做合作那目前我看已經試辦了15場嘛要辦15場這15場應該也是有跟他們做聯繫"},{"start":541.168,"end":556.783,"text":"所以我是提醒就是我們交通部就是公務局這個要跟教育單位交通甚至市府也有交通局就是市政府的相關單位我們要動就一起動這樣子才會把那個效果發揮到最高好 謝謝最後那個"},{"start":564.53,"end":586.569,"text":"陰水法陰水法部長應該了解這個部分那個航港局也很幫忙就是說要發展我們地方高雄的遊艇觀光事實上這個也是在地的需求所以就是我們提出這個遊艇觀光就是飲水一千噸以下事實上你不用讓這個遊艇事實上他吃水很淺"},{"start":587.51,"end":595.795,"text":"所以這個部分我想我們也希望說交通部可以支持那航港局在這個交通安全的維護上有沒有什麼問題"},{"start":598.559,"end":619.608,"text":"報告委員這個部分我們會支持一千噸以下的這個遊艇外極遊艇不需要強制飲水這個部分我們會支持OK那這個就是希望說香港局跟交通部能夠盡力協助是好沒問題那包括那個安全的我認為也很重要可能要相關的配套要把它想好好謝謝委員OK好謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}