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謝謝原民會的一個回應因為我們希望可以開始啟動原教法第11條的修正"},{"start":369.341,"end":391.67,"text":"因為也已經隔很久人口比例呢也往上升那更重要的是我們從目前高教原住民的出在學率跟全體高教生的出在學率那個是斷崖式的差距將近30%所以呢我覺得在這個部分需要更多的教育經費來協助我們的原住民的學生那我也謝謝部長"},{"start":395.371,"end":404.944,"text":"長期以來去肯定這樣的做法那接下來就是想要提到的就是為什麼我們需要更多的經費就像陳培宇委員剛剛講的實驗三法施行也已經十年了"},{"start":410.811,"end":426.071,"text":"那也需要去做一些討論所以可能會辦公聽會那原住民的部分原住民實驗學校很多也都已經走了一段時間他們也很迷惘不知道下一步何去何從"},{"start":426.852,"end":450.527,"text":"那甚至是原住民族學校法被明定在原教法裡面是要定定的執法可是時至今日大家對於什麼是原住民族學校也沒有想法 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除每個月我們現在目前是每個月在做追蹤各校因為新的校試法裡面所造成的一些實際的進展請部長報告就是現在上路以來的一個月"},{"start":639.558,"end":665.963,"text":"對每個月我們現在以後我們每個月在追蹤那在去年的時候當時也感謝委員的關心我們也希望說至少在收集這個新的法實行以後到今年的六月我們希望在今年的暑假至少有一個半年的觀察期看它的一個效益怎麼樣然後再有一個假設大家還覺得可以更精進我們再有一個新的一個想像"},{"start":666.643,"end":686.178,"text":"謝謝部長開放的態度那因為我們有高級中等以下學校教師大概有21萬人那其實大家也都很關注這件事但是至少我還是要肯定部長因為關於找回老師尊嚴這件事情有很多事情喊了很久包括調升導師費啊終點費的調升啊行政加急的調升啊還有擴大這些偏鄉教師的保險啊然後甚至是談到"},{"start":695.565,"end":719.88,"text":"年資的採計或者是終點費的調生要涵蓋到教學支援人員還有包括偏鄉久任獎金一直調一直調現在的態度應該是幾乎有反應其實都接納了所以從這個部分其實我們看得出來部長您確實是抱持著一個非常開放的態度那在這裡我們就是希望說"},{"start":721.121,"end":749.51,"text":"我們還有一件事沒做就是今天要排審的教師法的第25條我們希望對於這些被停聘然後呢復聘回復名譽我覺得最起碼該有的尊嚴就是全心還給他那至於其他的部分像家籍的部分我想人種主計種也都在這邊但是我們想要特別強調"},{"start":751.07,"end":766.087,"text":"教師幸福感的調查為什麼親子天下會來做調查就是因為我們發現這一兩年特別特別老師的聲音就是斷崖式的滑落已經有"},{"start":767.982,"end":792.571,"text":"一半的老師覺得不幸福然後這個問卷是有意義的因為是回收了5412份問卷然後有超過六成的老師是想要離開教職所以這個時候我希望在我們討論教師法第25條的時候我們希望我們的各個機關各個代表都能夠秉持著一個開放的態度"},{"start":794.172,"end":812.73,"text":"來讓老師的尊嚴至少能夠回復我們不知道怎麼回復他的名譽但是我們至少要回復他這段時間所損失的我想這是最基本的那部長不曉得你的態度如何謝謝委員關心我們老師的一個權益包括他的名義上怎麼樣去維護"},{"start":814.071,"end":833.68,"text":"我的想法跟委員的一個看法是一致的我們也希望說怎麼樣讓老師能夠更安心因為當他將心比心當他變成被不實的指控或者誤解而造成的一些訴訟後來恢復他名基本上不是規則而已我覺得是應該給他全心好 謝謝部長那在這邊就我們就等下午的排審好"},{"start":842.945,"end":843.429,"text":"好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}