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謝謝非常感謝林月"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:26:50.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:26:51.561000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，麻煩請我們的交通部部長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:26:51.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:26:51.621000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:26:51.621000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:26:52.621000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:26:52.621000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:26:53.621000+08:00","text":"部長午安。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:26:51.641000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:28:03.333000+08:00","text":"先請看螢幕，鯉魚潭發生8歲男童溺斃事件，部長，這不是單一事件，2023年，基隆市大武崙沙灘曾一天就發生溺斃3人的事件，當時基隆市政府就跟觀光署發生了沙灘跟水域管理範圍的爭議，紅色警戒線事實上是市政府畫的，可是又緊鄰我們北觀處的管轄範圍，導致到底誰要對這部分的管理負責產生模糊地帶；到了2026年就是今年度，我們花蓮鯉魚潭在年初三發生了8歲男童的溺斃事件，又發生同樣的爭議，地方說僅負責營運許可，管理機關是中央的縱管處，並非地方政府，因此縣府沒有任何法律義務或權限去訂定相關的一些營運管理條例，可是縱管處又說縣市政府應該訂定，以作為管理當地業者的法律依據。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:28:04.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:28:12.038000+08:00","text":"部長，出事之後，我們看到的標準公式就是中央說歸地方管、地方說歸中央管，是這樣嗎？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:28:12.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:28:22.205000+08:00","text":"部長，一條人命，孩子還來不及長大就這樣走了，我想踢來踢去的結果就是把風險踢給無辜的受害人，這不是我們樂見的。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:28:22.485000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:28:26.708000+08:00","text":"所以我們希望大家一起共同重視這個課題。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:28:26.708000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:28:27.708000+08:00","text":"是，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:28:27.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:29:01.851000+08:00","text":"請部長看螢幕上這張圖，花蓮縣政府在114年6月12號就廢止了相關管理程序，從廢止到今年初發生意外，整整半年的時間，我們的鯉魚潭水域竟然處在一個法律跟檢查完全真空的狀態，縱管處聲稱拿不到安檢的資料，顯然在過去這段時間裡，這些天天載客的天鵝船、動力船根本長期沒有依程序進行安檢，在國家風景區內，竟然允許完全沒有安檢紀錄的船隻違規營運，請問部長，為什麼會發生這種狀況？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:29:01.891000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:29:03.372000+08:00","text":"報告委員，對於發生不幸的事情，我們希望風險能夠再降低，既然看到了問題，我們希望能夠解決問題。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:29:14.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:29:31.096000+08:00","text":"過去這段時間確實有一些法令上不周全或者是該執行而未執行的事情，我們希望未來不要再發生，對這個部分，其實觀光署已經有跟花蓮縣政府開會討論過，大概有了一些共識，未來也會想辦法，該列管的部分要列管。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:29:31.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:29:32.777000+08:00","text":"我是不是請署長先來回答一下，好不好？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"陳署長秀玉","start":"2026-04-01T12:29:34.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:30:02.934000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心這個議題，今年2月19號發生的那個事情真的是很令人遺憾，因為發展臺灣的觀光，基本上是要中央跟地方政府共同合作，我們這段時間檢討下來，我覺得確實是彼此都可能在法令上面有一些遺漏的地方，所以這段時間我們也找了花蓮縣政府共同討論彼此如何完善，因為遊客的安全是最重要的事。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:30:03.754000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:30:38.880000+08:00","text":"對，可是不是只有花蓮這樣，我剛剛也講基隆、花蓮都這樣，所以部長，在管理方面是不是……因為管理方面不能僅依照發展觀光條例第三十六條公告哪裡不能玩，例如公告特定的活動時間、劃定禁止進入的危險區或是針對違規的遊客要怎麼進行行政裁罰，可是這些都沒有辦法去做到浮具到底怎麼去做安全管理，是依據浮具器具及人員操作安全注意事項嗎？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:30:40.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:30:44.966000+08:00","text":"位階這麼低，法律效果僅有命令位階，沒有強制力，也沒有相關罰則。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:30:44.966000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:30:53.434000+08:00","text":"所以部長對於這件事情，浮具是否有其他的法令管理或依據現行法律的配套措施是什麼？","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:30:53.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:14.207000+08:00","text":"報告委員，其實在各個地方的自治條例裡面可以去訂這個東西，經過觀光署的關注，全國各個水上有遊玩的領域，我們都做檢討；法令不足的部分，現在航港局也有介入幫忙協助，也是督導地方政府必須要制定這樣子的自治條例，來避免這些事情。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:14.287000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:15.747000+08:00","text":"接下來會去制定嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:15.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:28.173000+08:00","text":"為什麼我這樣講，你看這一份航港局頒布的浮具器具及人員操作安全注意事項，規定「地方政府並得視需要予以納管」，視需要喔！","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:28.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:32.416000+08:00","text":"可是今天這些浮具到處都是的話，你怎麼說視需要？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:33.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:35.278000+08:00","text":"它如果覺得沒需要就不用管理嗎？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:35.278000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:31:40.363000+08:00","text":"也就是說地方政府可以制定相關的安全規範，就讓他們自己視需要。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:31:40.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:00.037000+08:00","text":"部長再看右邊這張各縣市對照表，新北、南投、宜蘭都定有自治條例或者是管理辦法，為什麼花蓮、嘉義、桃園等13個縣市可以沒有，而造成有的有地方有罰則，有的地方完全沒有安全檢查，也不會有罰則的狀況發生？","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:00.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:05.861000+08:00","text":"所以部長，我要請問是「得視需要」這4個字是不是就是地方政府可以繼續不作為？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:06.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:24.967000+08:00","text":"報告委員，有分動力浮具跟非動力浮具，非動力浮具我們比較用勸導；但是有動力浮具的部分危險性相對高一點，我們會比較強制的作為，希望能夠要求他們趕快來制定，這個部分局長可以再補充一下。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:25.147000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:44.119000+08:00","text":"因為時間關係，我最後就是請你們儘速研議相關法律不足的部分，希望中央能夠訂定浮具跟動力小船的相關處罰規定，而不是當發生事情的時候，還是各推各的，這是人命，請部長一定要重視這個問題。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:44.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:44.559000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員的關心，這個我們會納入。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:45.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:48.501000+08:00","text":"不過拜託回去研議的時候，也希望找民間團體一起討論。謝謝。好。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:48.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:51.203000+08:00","text":"非常感謝林月琴委員。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:51.703000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:52.845857+08:00","text":"休息10分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:53.145857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:54.288714+08:00","text":"休息（12時32分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:54.588714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:56.303000+08:00","text":"繼續開會（12時43分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:56.603000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:32:57.745857+08:00","text":"繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:32:58.045857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:33:03.188714+08:00","text":"接下來邀請林楚茵，林楚茵，林楚茵委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:33:03.488714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:33:07.203000+08:00","text":"蔡春綢，蔡春綢，蔡春綢委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:33:07.503000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:33:11.217286+08:00","text":"王美惠，王美惠，王美惠委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-01T12:33:11.517286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-01T12:33:14.945857+08:00","text":"接下來邀請李坤城委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}