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以及今年年底九合一大選很多的事項會無法進行 您說的是這樣的意思嗎"},{"start":237.47,"end":262.569,"text":"是若干的事物要經過委員會討論後有沒有明確一點的是大概什麼事物例如說這個競選經費最高金額那如果沒有辦法這個東西沒有辦法提出來的話那會不會影響到今年年底九合一大選這個應該是會影響到那請問中選會有沒有什麼的補償的措施還是一定要等到這些人事案都提名完畢那依照中選會的組織法的規定那應該是要召開委員會來討論"},{"start":267.556,"end":295.744,"text":"好 謝謝 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謝謝部長因為時間的關係我們還有最後一題最近非常重要的一個議題要來請教"},{"start":473.664,"end":492.229,"text":"最近這個在社會上發生非常多的獨駕事件那我看你有開記者會針對獨駕來去做要加強來查緝的部分那我特別提出來在從這個我們去年這個喪屍煙彈依託彌子我們把它提升到二級毒品以後其實獨駕的問題還是非常嚴重在去年的11月20號"},{"start":495.69,"end":522.962,"text":"這個我們現在獨駕的整個整個案件量其實有高達3000多件其實一天的獨駕大概就已經有這個二三十件了所以發生的頻率非常的高那本席想要來請教我們部長的就是說你有在新聞報導中有提到就是說你想要來把這個獨駕有相關的一些罰則或者是一些預防的措施來把它做加強所以我要想"},{"start":523.362,"end":551.659,"text":"我再請教部長是不是可以現在因為我覺得這非常重要就是未來有關於獨駕也是應該是要零容忍是不是有一些預防性羈押的一些的一些方式我們這個會期可以來討論或者是說如果是獨駕累犯的話的刑責不能一顆罰金或者是說獨駕的話同車的乘客就像酒駕一樣也要連坐連罰的像相關的規定是不是可以請部長"},{"start":552.8,"end":567.397,"text":"謝謝張委員的關心我們內政部的警政署跟法務部還有台灣高檢署有在研議更強力的法治作為所以我們的建議就是說法務部要修正刑法來提高獨家的刑責"},{"start":568.258,"end":583.685,"text":"然後同時對於累犯或者是獨家肇事者要制定一個強化申請羈押以及不得義科罰金等措施並且朝著不確定故意殺人罪方向來偵辦但是我們內政部的警政署只能提建議"},{"start":584.645,"end":604.436,"text":"所以我們也建議司法院要修訂這個刑事訴訟法的第101條之一將獨駕納入可預防性羈押的案例也就是說未來大概內政部跟法務部要跟司法院一起來努力才可以達到剛剛委員所提到的我們怎麼樣加重刑責然後來遏止獨駕"},{"start":606.397,"end":631.431,"text":"好 那我請教部長 這個法案您這邊會來協調各部會 這個會期有辦法還是說報告委員 我們剛剛有經提過了就是我們有召開一個跨部會的合作機制但是修法的機關呢 還是會以法務部為主因為法務部他們在刑法的這個提升獨駕的刑責或者是說對於獨駕的這個累犯的部分的話呢這個都是要法務部跟司法院一起來合作好 給部長我再簡單請教一下 你們有會議記錄嗎"},{"start":634.394,"end":642.494,"text":"我想會議紀錄是屬於內部的文書我們現在把結論已經跟委員報告了好 那我需要說這個會期我們盡快來把這個東西往前推行謝謝部長"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}