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接下来有请赖若文委员咨询好 谢谢召委请工部长跟方董事长好 请工部长跟方董事长"},{"start":15.882,"end":31.662,"text":"部長 上個禮拜在連假第一天又發生了中油大林場的大火這一次燒了16個小時 部長有瞭解到真正原因跟起火原因跟整個未來怎麼預防嗎"},{"start":33.679,"end":59.654,"text":"對 我有隨時都跟蹤說明一下吧 是什麼原因發生的包國炎 那麼首先很抱歉在高雄地區發生這樣一個火災發生的原因就是管線裡面有一個短管它是一個溫度計的一個短管接出來那這個接頭的部分鬆脫了那麼所以裡面管線裡面的油氣就沖出來"},{"start":60.816,"end":76.807,"text":"那這個沖出來的過程中呢可能是接觸到管線上的本身的一個高溫而產生這樣一個火災當然目前是做這樣一個研判啦還需要去做更具體的一個檢視我先問一下多久可以有一個完整的調查報告出來"},{"start":77.421,"end":92.986,"text":"因為還要做一些金像上的一個檢測初步調查結果是這樣嘛對不對 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要做預防性的檢測部長跟董事長可不可以請朝這個方向好不好立油廠每年為整個台灣也付出相當多但是不要讓當地的居民承受到這樣的一個恐慌"},{"start":194.81,"end":209.836,"text":"燒16小時光周邊的居民是相當擔憂的包括空污的影響相當重大罰了500萬這還不是最大的損失而是整個所有對周邊居民的信任我希望經濟部門終於有在這件事情上面要痛定思痛這該"},{"start":211.697,"end":237.159,"text":"該加速去更換的該做的作為都要去作為不要讓他等到那麼久我下禮拜一等你們的最後的調查報告我也希望從那邊也提到你們該有的檢討措施不要每次都為了這些什麼鬆脫什麼東西然後導致不管是所謂的什麼油氣的這個我收到兩次市議會上市議會上我收到兩次你們的報告油氣洩漏甚至石油腦的一個引發的火警"},{"start":238.369,"end":252.727,"text":"無論什麼我認為這個在第一時間就應該更之前就應該預防做處理每年的公安的經費這麼多就是要做這件事情好不好我希望這都會影響到人民的一個信任跟信心我希望進一步跟中友要持續來做這樣的努力好不好"},{"start":253.851,"end":277.624,"text":"部長可以嗎 這請全力接下來要講了 其實中油的增資我當然是支持的 特別是政見但是我也再次提醒部長跟董事長中油的增資裡面也要增加更多的經費在做公安跟做環保這一塊我希望也看到你們的增資裡面對這一塊更加的重視而不是把區域的這些的外部的成本全部讓當地去承擔"},{"start":281.586,"end":301.895,"text":"我知道你年度預算裡面都會做啦針絲不見的做這件事情但是我講的只是希望你們更加的重視這個問題會增編啦好不好 增編的計畫你要讓大家知道就是我在支持你的預算的同時我不是只是在支持你承受了國家損失的虧損同時間我也要求你做更多的公安的一些要求我相信這也是所有立委們"},{"start":302.635,"end":326.047,"text":"願意共同支持的一個關鍵原因 如果我們給你更多的增資 但是你的公安意外 你說的還是常在發生的時候 這個跟落差會相當大我還是要提醒 如果你前面每一個多做一點點的這些的巡檢或多縮短它的期間的話 它對於整個後面的事件也許就不會發生這個不發生同時可以幫中油省下非常多的一些成本 不管是這個"},{"start":327.668,"end":352.804,"text":"損失的成本或者你停工的成本甚至於周邊的外溢出來這些的人民的不信任甚至於引發有可能引發抗爭的成本都大幅的降低我認為這個是一件很重要的事情好不好我希望經濟部跟中油這邊把這件事情是列為一個重要事項我不希望再看到類似事件不斷的在發生可以嗎可以好 部長好 謝謝好 再來我也請教一下先也請台電董事長上來"},{"start":353.524,"end":371.974,"text":"最近高雄市也發生了非常多的董事長請先休息台電也發生很多次的跳電的一個事件我認為這個部分要加強做一些預防跟應變包括我在鳳山在小港甚至於包括在大樹甚至於在前京區很多我要講的是"},{"start":372.734,"end":396.283,"text":"高雄是發電的一個大區就是不管是大林電廠南部火力發電廠到興達電廠我們也增加了很多不管是燃氣的等等的一些那李老師在自己發電的區域常常在發生一些跳電的事件而發生跳電之後可能電梯受損可能周邊居民非常不方便甚至有的停電的時間久的話可能連家裡面都受到很多的一些影響我認為這個台電要"},{"start":398.504,"end":414.563,"text":"更積極的去做一些改善來 董事長 曾董事長好 那個跟委員報告確實我們現在對於整個停電的狀況處理的速度都在加快那也在更新我們的舊的設備我先問一下為什麼會最近的停電的頻率增加了你現在選出來的這幾個新聞"},{"start":417.987,"end":443.439,"text":"我想第一個就是 如果是清民節少 那顯然就是外力我想說這個這個不是啦 這當然不是那個 這我請他們拿掉前面包括豐山 小港 包括大樹 包括淺金的我跟委員報告幾個事 第一個事情是就是那個雷雨影響是最近 就是這個整個春假期間雷雨影響那個是一個事情就有雷雨你看雷雨影響有沒有可能去"},{"start":444.399,"end":471.798,"text":"我們現在在處理就是因為大宿那有一根高壓的電線其實它是比較難進去啦但是這個我們會來想辦法怎麼樣改善這件事鳳山小港大宿跟前京這幾個是不是也請台電這邊也給我一個你們的說明好不好我難以忍受的是說高雄做一個發電的大區然後自己發電那麼多的量然後整天停電的事情頻繁這個是我很難接受的我跟委員報告就是我們其實那個因為"},{"start":474.78,"end":497.001,"text":"範圍大啦 那有些地方比較接近丘陵或什麼 那個我們會儘快來想辦法改善 那個大樹的累積其實是一個問題 我們這次有發現大樹累積我跟曾董事長講 這是一個感受的問題啦 如果我們發電量那麼多的時候而我們常常發生停電 而我們的改善卻沒有比人家來得更多的時候 那個心理感受是不好的我希望曾董事長把這個列為優先的項目 好不好 不要再"},{"start":498.141,"end":526.017,"text":"發電區多的地方頻頻發生停電最後一個我請教一下部長這個伊朗的部分放行船隻的亞洲有六個國家大概都能夠協調出來台灣有做這樣的努力嗎報告委員因為今天的消息是兩禮拜的停戰所有的船隻都可以通過那因為我們是跟卡達買的是大案價格所以那個船是卡達的船並不是我們的船好"},{"start":526.437,"end":540.699,"text":"所以我也希望未來當然這兩個停火我們希望有更好的消息啦但是停火後如果還是有那個狀況下我希望還是要持續的溝通讓我們這個船隻能散盡我們的各項的溝通能力好不好跟外交能力去努力去突破好嗎好 謝謝好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:22.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:25.265000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，請龔部長跟方董事長。","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:26.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:27.167000+08:00","text":"請龔部長跟方董事長。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:27.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:30.882000+08:00","text":"賴委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:30.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:46.662000+08:00","text":"部長，上個禮拜在連假第一天又發生中油大林廠大火，這次燒了16個小時，部長有了解到真正的原因、起火原因跟整個未來怎麼預防嗎？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:48.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:49.559000+08:00","text":"我隨時都有跟中油……","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:51.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:52.121000+08:00","text":"說明一下吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:52.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:19:52.641000+08:00","text":"發生的原因是什麼？","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:19:55.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:28.104000+08:00","text":"報告委員，首先很抱歉在高雄地區發生這樣一個火災，發生的原因就是管線裡面有一個短管，它是一個溫度計的短管接出來，接頭的部分鬆脫了，所以管線裡面的油氣就衝出來，衝出來的過程中可能就接觸到管線上本身的高溫而產生這樣一個火災，目前是做這樣的研判，還需要做更具體的檢視。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:28.104000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:31.807000+08:00","text":"我先問一下，多久可以有一個完整的調查報告出來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:32.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:35.982000+08:00","text":"因為還要做一些金相上的檢測。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:35.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:38.503000+08:00","text":"初步調查結果是這樣，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:38.503000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:39.503000+08:00","text":"認為是這樣。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:38.503000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:40.584000+08:00","text":"多久的時間可以有一個完整的調查報告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:41.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:47.966000+08:00","text":"目前只是在初稿，還沒有定稿，檢測的部分確立以後才能確立正確的……","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:47.966000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:50.867000+08:00","text":"多久時間？","quality":0},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:50.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:53.148000+08:00","text":"可不可以給我們一週的時間？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:53.148000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:20:54.109000+08:00","text":"這個金相報告要出來。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:20:54.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:05.334000+08:00","text":"部長，從4月3號發生，我希望從4月3號開始起算，一週內提出完整的調查報告，以及未來如何預防這件事情再次的發生好嗎？好。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:05.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:06.974000+08:00","text":"部長，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:06.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:07.715000+08:00","text":"4月3號一週？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:07.715000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:09.415000+08:00","text":"4月3號後一週，就是從4月3號發生後一週。","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:09.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:09.635000+08:00","text":"現在已經4月8號了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:17.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:23.790000+08:00","text":"對，我希望在4月10號的時候提出這一份完整的報告，發生事件過後一週，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:23.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:25.790000+08:00","text":"報告委員，可不可以再給我們多一點時間？","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:25.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:27.851000+08:00","text":"譬如說下週一好不好？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:27.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:34.272000+08:00","text":"好，下週一給一份完整的報告，包括發生事故原因以及未來如何預防發生。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:34.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:38.313000+08:00","text":"那我直接先問一下董事長，這樣的事情怎麼樣預防發生？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:38.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:21:43.334000+08:00","text":"最近已經發生多起了，包括林園的大火、包括這邊的大火，這樣的事件怎麼樣預防它再次發生？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:21:46.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:05.685000+08:00","text":"我個人的看法還是在於我們在災害預防上要去落實、要去加強，譬如說，假設真正是這個原因的話，就應該對於這個突出的短管的部分要更……把這個檢測的週期更縮短，來確定任何使用的時候都是正常的情形。","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:05.865000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:13.327000+08:00","text":"所以檢測的週期要再縮短，甚至於如果發現它可能已經有一些需要更換的時候就要儘速來做更換，對不對？對。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:13.327000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:15.627000+08:00","text":"不要等到出狀況的時候才做嘛。","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:16.127000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:18.088000+08:00","text":"對，要做預防性的檢測。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:18.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:20.608000+08:00","text":"部長、董事長，請朝這個方向好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:21.368000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:40.595000+08:00","text":"煉油廠每年為整個臺灣也付出相當多，但是不要讓當地的居民承受到這樣的恐慌，燒了16小時，光是周邊居民就相當擔憂，包括空污的影響也相當重大，罰了500萬，這還不是最大的損失，而是整個周邊居民的信任。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:41.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:22:51.561000+08:00","text":"我希望經濟部跟中油在這件事情上面要痛定思痛，該加速去更換的、該有的作為都要去作為，不要讓他等到那麼久。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:22:51.721000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:23:24.063000+08:00","text":"我下禮拜一等你們最後的調查報告，我希望從那邊也能提到你們該有的檢討措施，不要每次都為了什麼鬆脫、什麼東西然後導致……不管是所謂的什麼油氣的……我有收到兩次，4月3號、4月4號，我收到兩次你們的報告，油氣洩漏、甚至石油腦引發的火警，無論如何，我認為這個在第一時間、在更之前就應該預防做處理，每年工安的經費這麼多，就是要做這件事情，這都會影響到人民的信任跟信心。","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:23:24.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:23:27.707000+08:00","text":"我希望經濟部跟中油要持續做這樣的努力好不好？","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:23:28.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:23:30.692000+08:00","text":"部長可以嗎？可以。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:23:30.692000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:23:30.812000+08:00","text":"這要傾全力。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:23:31.312000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:23:52.624000+08:00","text":"接下來要講的是，其實中油的增資我當然是支持的，但是我要再次提醒部長跟董事長，中油的增資裡面也要增加更多經費在做工安跟做環保這一塊，我希望看到你們的增資裡面對這一塊更加的重視，而不是把區域的這些外部成本全部讓當地去承擔。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:23:56.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:24:03.149000+08:00","text":"我知道你們年度預算裡面都會做，增資不見得會做這件事情，但是我講的只是希望你們更加重視這個問題。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:24:03.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:24:03.389000+08:00","text":"會增編啦。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:24:04.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:24:19.076000+08:00","text":"增編的部分你要讓大家知道，我在支持你的預算的同時，我不只是在支持你承受國家損失、虧損，同時間我也要求你做更多工安的要求，我相信這也是所有立委們願意共同支持的一個關鍵原因。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:24:19.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:24:27.520000+08:00","text":"如果我們給你更多的增資，但是你的工安意外還是常常發生的時候，這個落差會相當大。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:24:28.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:24:51.234000+08:00","text":"我還是要提醒，如果你前面每一個部分多做一點點巡檢或是縮短它的期間，後面的事件也許就不會發生，這個不發生的同時也可以幫中油省下非常多的成本，不管是損失的成本，或者是停工的成本，甚至於周邊的、外溢出來這些人民的不信任，甚至於有可能引發抗爭的成本，都會大幅的降低。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:24:51.634000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:25:01.660000+08:00","text":"我認為這是一件很重要的事情，我希望經濟部跟中油要把這件事情列為一個重要事項，我不希望再看到類似事件不斷地發生，可以嗎？可以。","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:25:02.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:25:04.482000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:25:04.642000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:25:11.766000+08:00","text":"再來，請台電董事長上來，中油董事長先休息。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:25:13.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:25:55.927000+08:00","text":"最近台電發生很多次的跳電事件，我認為這個部分要加強做一些預防跟應變，包括在鳳山、小港、大樹、甚至於前金區，我要講的是，高雄是一個發電的大區，不管是大林電廠、南部火力發電廠到興達電廠，我們也增加了很多不管是燃氣等等的設備，但你老是在自己發電的區域發生跳電事件，且發生跳電之後，可能電力受損、可能周邊居民非常不方便，甚至有的跳電、停電時間久的話，可能連家裡面都會受到很多影響，我認為台電要更積極地去做一些改善，請曾董事長說明。","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T11:25:57.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:05.478000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，確實我們現在對於整個停電的狀況，處理的速度都在加快，也在更新我們舊的設備……","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:05.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:08.842000+08:00","text":"我先問一下，為什麼最近跳電的頻率增加了？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:09.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:18.870000+08:00","text":"您現在選出來的這幾個新聞，第一個，如果是清明節掃墓，那顯然就是外力，我想說這個……","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:18.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:19.130000+08:00","text":"這個不是啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:19.390000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:25.133000+08:00","text":"這當然不是，這個我請他們拿掉了，其他的包括鳳山、小港、大樹、前金的……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:25.713000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:36.758000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告幾個，第一個事情，雷雨影響是最近，就是這整個春假期間雷雨影響那是一個事情，就是有雷雨……","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:36.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:38.259000+08:00","text":"雷雨影響有沒有可能讓……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:39.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:49.246000+08:00","text":"我們現在在處理，因為大樹有一根高壓電線，它是比較難進去，但是我們會想辦法來改善這件事，您關心的事，我們會去……","quality":0.771},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:50.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:26:56.911000+08:00","text":"鳳山、小港、大樹跟前金這幾個，是不是也請台電給我一個說明，好不好？好。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:26:57.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:27:05.437000+08:00","text":"我難以忍受的是，高雄作為一個發電的大區，自己發了那麼多的電，卻整天停電的事情頻傳，這個是我很難以接受的。","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T11:27:05.497000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:27:18.868000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，因為範圍大，有些地方比較接近丘陵或什麼，那個我們會儘快來想辦法改善，大樹的雷擊其實是一個問題，我們這次有發現到……","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:27:19.849000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:27:31.420000+08:00","text":"我跟曾董事長講，這是一個感受的問題，明明我們發電量那麼多，不但常常發生停電，而且我們改善的還沒有比別人來得更多的時候，那個心裡感受是不好的，我希望曾董事長要把這個列為優先項目，好不好？","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:27:31.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:27:35.022000+08:00","text":"不要在發電多的地方頻頻發生停電。好的。","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:27:35.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:27:45.328000+08:00","text":"最後一個，我請教部長，伊朗放行船隻的部分，亞洲有6個國家大概都能夠去協調出來，臺灣有做這樣的努力嗎？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:27:45.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:28:00.276000+08:00","text":"報告委員，今天的消息是兩個禮拜的停戰，所有的船隻都可以通過，因為我們跟卡達買的是到岸價格，所以那個船是卡達的船，並不是我們的船。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:28:00.997000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:28:15.118000+08:00","text":"好，我也希望未來……當然這兩個禮拜停火，我們希望有更好的消息，但是停火後，如果仍有狀況的話，我希望還是要持續溝通，讓我們船隻能夠……就是善盡我們各項的溝通能力跟外交能力努力去突破，好嗎？好。","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-04-08T11:28:15.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:28:15.699000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:28:16.199000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:28:18.199000+08:00","text":"謝謝賴瑞隆委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:28:18.499000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:28:22.213286+08:00","text":"接下來請邱志偉召委進行質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}