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跟委員報告 只要地方支持的我們一定都會把握進度把他做好我們地方大家都有在倒下我們希望這個變電站地方是需要所以地方還是會盡量去去圓滿這一些工程的一個施作不然呢 台灣說那裡比較不適合要算的希望這個進度也是要倒筋的這樣好不好"},{"start":436.621,"end":444.946,"text":"好好那個我們可以就可以加快速度的我們都盡量再加快只要地方支持我們都會儘快好感謝兩組電話謝謝部長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:55:59.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:04.724000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請經濟部龔部長跟中油方董事長。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:56:04.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:05.704000+08:00","text":"好，請龔部長跟方董事長。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T11:56:05.704000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:06.704000+08:00","text":"蔡委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:56:05.764000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:05.864000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:56:06.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:49.292000+08:00","text":"美伊的衝突，荷姆茲海峽遭到封鎖，這個封鎖也是瞬息萬變，因為從昨天川普跟伊朗的對話，看起來荷姆茲海峽可能會在有條件之下部分開放，但是我們現在還是先因應未來，因為荷姆茲海峽被封鎖後，伊朗也對外說他們下一個會考慮封鎖曼德海峽，雖然這不在伊朗的領土，但是不知道他們可能會怎樣去做。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:56:49.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:56:55.355000+08:00","text":"如果曼德海峽也被封鎖的話，我們知道從第一個海峽被封鎖後，我們已經把46%的原油採購都轉到從紅海出口。","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:04.418000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:09.763000+08:00","text":"如果紅海這一個出口也被封鎖之後，那對臺灣的影響會怎樣？","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:09.783000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:10.163000+08:00","text":"經濟部跟中油針對這樣的情況有沙盤演練嗎？","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:18.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:18.382000+08:00","text":"請方董說明一下。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:19.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:30.066000+08:00","text":"關於原油的部分，萬一這兩個地方都封鎖了，那我們採購的地區，目前已經在接洽西非地區的油源。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:31.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:36.768000+08:00","text":"另外，在東南亞這邊，譬如說澳洲、美國這邊……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:36.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:37.468000+08:00","text":"有接洽？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:37.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:38.048000+08:00","text":"有去做接洽。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:38.408000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:39.869000+08:00","text":"接洽有可能補得上嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:40.889000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:43.131000+08:00","text":"當然我們會做各種努力的嘗試。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:43.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:57:50.935000+08:00","text":"對，因為還沒有發生，只是我現在要告訴你，看起來這件事並沒有辦法完全被排除，所以你們一定要做最壞的打算。是。好。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:57:51.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:12.133000+08:00","text":"第二個，因應昨天的狀況，如果如同川普所說的，他跟伊朗現在談判停火兩個禮拜，這兩個禮拜有條件的開放荷姆茲海峽，那開放荷姆茲海峽這兩個禮拜，我們可以對我們的原油或者是天然氣的調度，有怎樣實質上的、我們可以馬上獲得的一些補救嗎？","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:19.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:27.787000+08:00","text":"是，目前中油公司在波斯灣裡面有一艘原油輪，已經裝滿了，但是出不來。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:27.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:39.035000+08:00","text":"假設這兩週是可以出得來的話，那麼這一船大概有200萬桶的原油，對於國內的供應來講會有非常大的幫助。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:41.177000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:47.022000+08:00","text":"假如這兩個禮拜整個大排長龍，因為大家都想出來嘛，擠得出來嗎？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:48.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:49.764000+08:00","text":"你們有信心嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:49.764000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:58:50.845000+08:00","text":"應該就照排嘛！照排。對。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:58:53.128000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:01.458000+08:00","text":"就是你認為排序上我們擠得到，那這一些原油、這200萬桶進來，可以舒緩很多我們現在國內面對的壓力？是。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:02.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:02.359000+08:00","text":"沒有錯嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:02.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:02.399000+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:03.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:18.427000+08:00","text":"好，我們還是覺得因為每天瞬息萬變，我剛剛講的兩個假設狀況，一個是已經發生了，所以這兩個禮拜我們要趕快積極的努力，而且你們也許可以去嘗試看看，還有沒有可能在這一艘油輪之外，去爭取這兩個禮拜內還有第二艘油輪，這應該是……當然。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:18.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:19.368000+08:00","text":"這應該是你們應該要去爭取的，是不是？是。好。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:19.668000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:59:45.866000+08:00","text":"第二個，我再請教一下經濟部長，因為現在好多業者在跟我反映，除了我之前講的包材，塑膠的問題，現在看起來連瀝青……因為瀝青的原料還是來自於石油的後端產物，現在連瀝青感覺上也是不足。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T11:59:46.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:01.384000+08:00","text":"瀝青的供應不足，造成很多工程單位現在沒有辦法去施作他們的工程，所以很多我們公部門的公共建設因此延宕。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:01.725000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:07.356000+08:00","text":"這件事情看起來，經濟部長有可能在這件事情上去做怎樣的舒緩嗎？","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:09.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:22.071000+08:00","text":"因為現在中油公司的存貨還有大概2.3萬噸，如果再加上原來台塑的存貨有1.9萬噸，現在總共還有4.2萬噸。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:22.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:35.778000+08:00","text":"如果剛剛提到那一船的油可以過來的話，因為中東的石油是比較可以有瀝青的，那又可以增加了，所以本來預估都可以到5月底，如果那個船又進來的話就可以到6月。","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:35.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:37.099000+08:00","text":"你本來可以預估嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:37.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:56.624000+08:00","text":"然後如果那船再進來，所以這樣就等於你們要去跟這些做瀝青的廠商講，不擋他們的貨，現在擋他們的貨，下游的這些工程單位沒辦法施工，讓我們整個國家的很多建設會因此受到延宕，會受到很大的影響。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:00:56.624000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:00:58.764000+08:00","text":"這部分我覺得經濟部應該好好來面對這個問題，好不好？好的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:00.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:02.766000+08:00","text":"好，那中油可以請先回。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:03.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:03.386000+08:00","text":"有請台電的董事長。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:03.386000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:04.386000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:03.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:38.066000+08:00","text":"董事長，你也知道我長期都很關心我們朴子，我們朴子台電變電所、變電站的遷移問題，畢竟它在朴子的市中心，我們為了這個遷移做了好多努力，包括在其他的外圍去蓋新的變電站，未來可以取代朴子的變電站。是。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:39.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:49.214000+08:00","text":"然後我們知道上個月在董事長的努力之下，馬稠後的變電站也已經正式動土了，所以工作有在進行。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:49.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:01:55.138000+08:00","text":"我現在想要很明確的去了解，因為我們朴子這裡大家都很期待，請問這個變電站差不多什麼時候可以完成遷移？","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:01:59.881000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:08.265000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們現在加速在蓋馬稠後的變電站，如果我們可以找到其他的電源轉供，我們就會馬上來進行。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:09.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:17.970000+08:00","text":"其實它能夠停下來的最重要的關鍵是其他的變電站蓋好，具體的時間我會後給您一個具體的報告，好不好？","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:18.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:27.335000+08:00","text":"好，你給我具體的時間，我希望至少進度沒有拖延到，都還在你們當時承諾我們的這個時間。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:27.335000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:28.436000+08:00","text":"是，沒錯。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:28.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:41.784000+08:00","text":"都還在時間內，所以我們希望變電站現在新的在興建，包括貴舍的在興建中，馬稠後的已經動土了，所以都是在進度裡面？","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:42.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:45.847000+08:00","text":"對，跟委員報告，只要地方支持的，我們一定都會把握進度把它做好。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:46.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:49.609000+08:00","text":"大家都有幫忙協調，這個變電站地方需要，所以地方還是會儘量去圓滿這些工程的施作。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:02:49.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:02:53.832000+08:00","text":"不過那些跟我們說比較不適合的、要遷移的，希望這個進度也是要幫忙一下，好不好？","quality":0.618},{"speaker":"曾董事長文生","start":"2026-04-08T12:03:06.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:03:13.165000+08:00","text":"好，我們可以加快速度的，我們都儘量再加快，只要地方支持的我們都會儘快。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-04-08T12:03:13.625000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T12:03:14.946000+08:00","text":"好，感謝董事長，謝謝部長。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T12:03:15.446000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T12:03:17.731714+08:00","text":"好，謝謝蔡易餘委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T12:03:18.031714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T12:03:22.031714+08:00","text":"接下來我們有請賴士葆委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}