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又記錄說一個簡單 少年環少年環他過去有那個卡就簽名那這樣可以算嗎對 就是剛跟各位報告 如果說他"},{"start":410.407,"end":428.798,"text":"能夠明確的說或是提供或是說他自己有疑問也沒關係只要願意說他曾經犯槍砲彈藥盜竊管制條例的什麼罪這個我們都可以協助他說明是不是符合官司選罷法啦我剛才在問的 我剛才在問的意思就是說少年犯 少年犯犯的事 到新年起來 那罪有在嗎"},{"start":437.096,"end":441.799,"text":"就是要看法院的判決的情形它是引用適用哪一個條款這樣來做決定 做判斷感謝我們中山會希望說我們有一個完整的制度我們也是提供真的有熱心想要提供給所有的人給他們一個機會 給他們查詢既然我們已經有這個改善條款"},{"start":466.934,"end":470.016,"text":"讓他們明確的了解他可不可以參選我的用意就是這樣而已這個國運可能我們要再想一想感謝我們中山委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:58.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:58.933000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:58.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:58.993000+08:00","text":"請中選會王處長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.013000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.013000+08:00","text":"請處長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"王處長曉麟","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.013000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.033000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.053000+08:00","text":"處長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.693000+08:00","text":"針對選罷法第二十六條排黑條款三黨都有提案，希望大家可以有共識，內政部也可以支持。","quality":0.676},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:09:59.794000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:11:08.886000+08:00","text":"在此本席要向處長說的是，雲林縣議會就事前查核一事發文給中選會，因為我在基層走動時，遇到有一些熱心的長輩或好朋友想參選公職，但因年輕時曾經犯錯……其實這點大家都一樣，仙人打鼓有時錯，腳步踏錯誰人無，就差在犯大條或犯小條罷了！","quality":0.337},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:11:11.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:11:22.520000+08:00","text":"不過人到了一定年紀後會想為地方服務，卻囿於排黑條款，以致是否符合資格……以現行制度來說，要等到登記後才能確定是否可以參選。","quality":0.473},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:11:22.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:11:51.554000+08:00","text":"問題在於，若登記後才被判定資格不符，這比較不符合人民的參選權與人權保障，因此中選會是不是應該研擬解決機制？","quality":0.327},{"speaker":"王處長曉麟","start":"2026-04-08T11:11:53.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:11:55.899000+08:00","text":"這問題請法政處蔡處長來答復。好。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:11:57.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:12:17.099000+08:00","text":"報告委員，有關擬參選人的消極資格一事，若對選罷法第二十六條消極資格所列各款適用有疑義，中選會當然責無旁貸必須協助準備參選人去做解釋。","quality":0.758},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:12:17.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:12:21.629000+08:00","text":"通常我們碰到的狀況是：他連自己犯過什麼罪都不清楚，卻要中選會事先幫他預審。","quality":0.412},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:12:21.629000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:12:51.547000+08:00","text":"鑑於犯罪前科涉及個人資料，因此，當中選會不在辦理法定政治上的選舉時，事實上並沒有辦法要求相關機關提供相關人員之個人前科資料。","quality":0.017},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:12:51.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:12:56.752000+08:00","text":"其實有的人是早在二十年前、三十年前、甚至四十年前所犯的錯，而其所犯的錯是否真的有卡到排黑條款？","quality":0.535},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:12:56.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:12:58.913000+08:00","text":"以我的詢問及瞭解，有的人真的不大清楚，這讓我覺得有點矛盾。","quality":0.423},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:12:59.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:13:22.982000+08:00","text":"因此，可否請中選會以對排黑條款的專業法律判斷來建立查詢制度，讓擬參選人查詢？","quality":0.486},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:13:22.982000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:13:28.215500+08:00","text":"這有賴內政部、中選會及法務部跨部會討論，看何種機制可以方便他們查詢？","quality":0.194},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:13:28.215500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:13:33.449000+08:00","text":"不要等選舉到了，都登記為候選人了，才在資格審查時被打槍！","quality":0},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:13:33.449000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:13:38.682500+08:00","text":"若只有兩人登記參選鄉鎮長，其中一人資格不符，那麼另一個不就鐵定當選？","quality":0.097},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:13:38.682500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:13:43.916000+08:00","text":"因此，一定要事先查核，而且必須是跨部會串聯所建立的查核機制，我建議這樣會比較好。","quality":0.083},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:13:43.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:14:13.240000+08:00","text":"不要等到要選舉了，都登記了再來審查，這樣就參選權而言並不公平！","quality":0.464},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:14:36.117000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:14:55.466000+08:00","text":"報告委員，如果擬參選人個人能取得或知悉自己的犯罪前科情形是否符合公職選罷法的消極資格，此時中選會當然、一定會做相關的說明與協助……","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:14:55.466000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:14:58.467000+08:00","text":"有的是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:14:58.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:15:19.189000+08:00","text":"只是有些個別擬參選人是請警察機關提供其犯罪情形，惟候選人的登記仍以登記期截止時的資料為準，這樣還是稍微會有落差。","quality":0.755},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:15:19.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:15:28.635000+08:00","text":"不過最重要的前提是，個人應該先取得個人或知悉個人前科之情形……對。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:15:30.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:15:49.125000+08:00","text":"因為司法院也會公布有關個人的一些判決情形，所以個人亦可查看司法院所公布的判決情形；若仍不確定個人的前科情形，也可以前往查詢。","quality":0.759},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:15:50.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:15:54.608000+08:00","text":"其實有些警察機關也願意提供其犯罪前科情形。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:15:55.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:16:03.258000+08:00","text":"至於中選會，由於沒有法律根據，故中選會在這時無法預為向相關機關，即個人前科資料之持有機關來請求他們提供，我們面臨了這個問題。","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:16:03.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:16:27.525000+08:00","text":"即使通過排黑條款，但一些條例、規定他還不是非常明確了解，比如某人少年時曾觸犯槍枝管制條例，這算嗎？","quality":0.409},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:16:27.725000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:16:55.816000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，若能夠明確或提供，甚或他自己有疑問也沒關係，只要願意說他曾經犯槍砲彈藥管制條例的什麼罪，我們都可以協助其說明是否符合選罷法……","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:16:55.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:16:58.798000+08:00","text":"我剛才的意思是，少年時期所觸犯的事，現在成年了，前科仍存在嗎？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:07.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:08.477000+08:00","text":"要看法院的判決而定，也就是引用或適用哪一個條款來做決定。","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:08.477000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:09.477000+08:00","text":"感謝中選會的說明。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:08.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:10.718000+08:00","text":"我希望我們可以有一個完整的制度，好讓那些真的想為地方服務的人一個查詢的機會。","quality":0.528},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:10.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:38.915000+08:00","text":"既然我們已經有排黑條款了，就讓他們可以明確了解到底可不可以參選，我的用意就是這樣而已。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:38.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:39.295000+08:00","text":"這部分我想我們還要再想一下。","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"丁委員學忠","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:39.795000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:43.223571+08:00","text":"不好意思，也感謝中選會說明。","quality":0.167},{"speaker":"蔡處長金誥","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:43.523571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:44.666429+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:44.966429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:47.252143+08:00","text":"我們現在休息5分鐘。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:47.552143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:48.695000+08:00","text":"休息（11時17分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:48.995000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:50.709286+08:00","text":"繼續開會（11時24分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:51.009286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:52.723571+08:00","text":"我們繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:53.023571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:56.166429+08:00","text":"接下來請伍麗華委員發言。","quality":0.182},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:56.466429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:17:59.609286+08:00","text":"伍麗華、伍麗華、伍麗華不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:17:59.909286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:03.052143+08:00","text":"請下一位鍾佳濱委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:03.352143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:06.495000+08:00","text":"鍾佳濱、鍾佳濱、鍾佳濱不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:06.795000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:09.937857+08:00","text":"請下一位林楚茵委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:10.237857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:13.380714+08:00","text":"林楚茵、林楚茵、林楚茵不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:13.680714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:16.823571+08:00","text":"請下一位楊瓊瓔委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:17.123571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:20.266429+08:00","text":"楊瓊瓔、楊瓊瓔、楊瓊瓔不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:20.566429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:22.852143+08:00","text":"請林俊憲委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:23.152143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:26.295000+08:00","text":"林俊憲、林俊憲、林俊憲不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-08T11:18:26.595000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-08T11:18:29.737857+08:00","text":"下一位請張雅琳委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}