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我是就學監事處處長池玉蘭跟您報告其實我們很鼓勵我們的退出一官兵能夠轉任公職所以我們在公職的輔導上面我們都有給他那個國營事業或者公職的一個就業輔導我們會給他一生有五萬塊的一個輔導的金利你去補習買參考書等等你只要去考公職我們都會給他補助那另外有關於我們還有一個退出一特考"},{"start":209.565,"end":235.138,"text":"每兩年有一次退出於特考其實我們都鼓勵我們很多的場合活動場合我們都鼓勵我們的退出於官兵能夠轉到我們的公職的路上我想因為軍職人員其實都蠻優秀的啦而且這幾年我發現公職人員報考都是一直在下降其實那個就是那邊的問題啦我也會去關鍵不過也希望一些我想非常優秀的軍職人員能夠繼續留在公職能夠繼續幫協助國家做一些協助"},{"start":238.38,"end":264.975,"text":"另外就是有關於比較屬於基金的部分可以看到我們那個收入的部分有一些受證的收入那受證的收入的部分其實我們有看到好像逐年有減少的狀況就受證的部分我不曉得針對受證的部分有沒有什麼因應可以增加受證的收入的部分"},{"start":265.717,"end":293.139,"text":"提高一些所謂的捐贈收入的部分這個我們在榮民榮捐基金會一直在注意這件事情因為這個對榮民榮捐的照顧也跟我們服務照顧處跟榮護處有關係我們希望能夠充分的運用地方社會的這些資源擴展一些外面的捐贈因為我看到好像我們有編了一些推廣"},{"start":294.721,"end":302.717,"text":"媒體政策或是業務宣導的一些費用,都編了大概400萬左右我不曉得這樣的成效有沒有什麼具體的成效"},{"start":306.207,"end":334.69,"text":"委員好,我是榮民榮業基金會秘書長跟委員報告,有關於榮民遺症部分其實我們在我們的董事會裡面也有提出就是說希望把我們相關的宣導製成圖卡在今年部分我們會到各榮家去做相關的活動也會把這些訊息提供給我們所有的榮家讓這些榮民在百年之後如果可以就把相關的這些遺症給我們基金會讓我們做妥善的運用,所以可以做善的循環"},{"start":335.35,"end":360.36,"text":"所以我們今年再積極地做這件事情好 OK 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謝偉恩"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:13:31.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:13:32.311000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T10:13:33.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:13:33.231000+08:00","text":"請主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:13:40.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:13:40.857000+08:00","text":"王委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:13:42.398000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:13:42.518000+08:00","text":"主委早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:13:43.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:14:12.539000+08:00","text":"剛剛看到王委員在講有關於轉銜，因為我看到輔導會的報告，跟我們在勞動方面的一些轉銜其實有非常大的關係，我想有空我再跟大家就教一下，因為在我們這個專業裡面，其實跟王委員剛剛講的一樣，就是我們有一些職能的分析，也許可以協助輔導會在轉銜上會有一些更好的結果。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:14:13.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:14:28.770000+08:00","text":"我看到報告裡面，不管是就學輔導還是就業媒合方面，我覺得都還不錯，不管是人次或人，基本上都還不錯，有關軍民專長的轉銜現在也有做平臺。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:14:30.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:14:49.520000+08:00","text":"最近我發現一個狀況，就是年輕人，包括學生，去報考公職的意願好像比較低一點點，不知道輔導會這邊有沒有因為這樣多去推薦一些退伍人員轉入公職的部分？","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:14:51.281000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:14:58.963000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們每一年有特考進來的、公職人員轉進來，我們都有名額空給他們。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:00.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:15:14.787000+08:00","text":"因為考選部在2016年、2023年都做了一些調整，而且科目有減少，我們辦公室也去考選部查了一下人數，我們發現報考人數好像有逐漸下降的狀況，不曉得輔導會有沒有掌握這個狀況？","quality":0.746},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:21.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:15:31.185000+08:00","text":"還是我們查到的資料是不是正確？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳處長家士","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:31.185000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T10:15:32.386000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這是上校以上轉……","quality":0.182},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:32.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:15:39.431000+08:00","text":"這是特考的部分，這個部分的人數好像越來越少，對不對？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:39.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:15:45.817000+08:00","text":"不曉得有沒有什麼輔導的機制可以讓他們去報考，讓特考的人數可以提升？","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:15:45.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:16:01.666000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這個輔導在國防部就有做，他只要報名，國防部有一個機制就是利用時間來給他們考試、做一些輔導，近幾年考試錄取率還是蠻高的，這個人數有可能跟退伍人數有關係，退伍人數少，報考的人數自然就會少。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:16:02.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:16:25.695000+08:00","text":"因為前一陣子媒體有報導「南投之光」，我不曉得主委知不知道這個事情，就是他們好像有輔導一些職涯的轉銜，然後可以考一些像監所的人員之類的，我覺得這很好，是不是主委針對這個部分可以提供退役的這些軍職人員多一點這樣的機會？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"池處長玉蘭","start":"2026-04-09T10:16:33.052000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:16:34.013000+08:00","text":"委員好，我是就學就業處處長。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"池處長玉蘭","start":"2026-04-09T10:16:34.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:16:38.275000+08:00","text":"跟您報告，其實我們很鼓勵我們的退除役官兵能夠轉任公職，所以我們在公職的輔導上面，我們都有給國營事業或公職的就業輔導，我們會給他一生有5萬塊的輔導津貼，你去補習、買參考書等等，你只要去考公職，我們都會給他補助。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"池處長玉蘭","start":"2026-04-09T10:16:38.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:17:10.731000+08:00","text":"另外，我們還有一個退除役特考，每兩年有一次的退除役特考，其實在很多的活動場合，我們都鼓勵我們的退除役官兵能夠轉到公職的路上。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:17:11.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:17:24.998000+08:00","text":"是，因為很多軍職人員其實都蠻優秀的，而且這幾年我發現公職人員報考人數都是一直在下降，其實那個是那邊的問題，我也會去關切，不過我也希望一些非常優秀的軍職人員能夠繼續留在公職，能夠繼續協助國家做一些事。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:17:28.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:17:58.079000+08:00","text":"另外第二個問題就是有關於基金的部分，我們看到基金收入的部分有一些受贈的收入，而受贈收入好像逐年有減少的狀況，針對這個受贈收入的部分有沒有什麼因應的辦法可以增加受贈收入，提高一些捐贈收入？","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:18:00.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:18:20.557000+08:00","text":"委員，我們榮民榮眷基金會一直在注意這件事情，因為這個是對榮民榮眷的照顧，也跟我們服務照顧處、各榮服處有關係，我們希望能夠充分的運用社會資源，能夠擴增一些外面的捐贈。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:18:20.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:18:32.697000+08:00","text":"因為我看到你們有編了一些推廣、媒體政策或是業務宣導的費用，大概都編400萬左右，不曉得有沒有什麼具體的成效？","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"劉秘書長協慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:18:36.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:18:38.569000+08:00","text":"委員好，我是榮民榮眷基金會秘書長。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"劉秘書長協慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:18:38.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:19:06.891000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，有關於榮民遺贈的部分，其實在我們的董事會裡面也有提出，希望把相關的宣導製成圖卡，在今年的部分我們會到各榮家去做相關的活動，也會把這些訊息提供給所有的榮家，讓這些榮民在百年之後，如果可以，就把相關的遺贈給我們基金會，我們都會妥善的運用，可以做善的循環，所以我們今年積極的在做這件事情。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:19:07.591000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:19:13.694000+08:00","text":"好，因為我看到真的是有逐漸減少的趨勢，也請主委這邊特別關注這個事情。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:19:14.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:19:46.379000+08:00","text":"另外，我看到你們財務報表的部分，發現你們孳息的部分很多其實都是存在定存裡面，都是定存的孳息，我想這個可能跟組織的章程有關係，不過這幾年社會都很動盪，不管是股市或其他，其實都不是很穩定，也許定存是一個不錯的方法，不過因為通膨最近實在蠻嚴重的，針對這個部分有沒有可能做一些調整，讓定存不再是這麼高的比例？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:19:46.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:19:48.662000+08:00","text":"裡面大概百分之九十幾都是定存的部分。","quality":0.588},{"speaker":"劉秘書長協慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:19:50.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:00.674000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們基金會裡面定存的金額大概是二十三億多，我們都選擇利率比較高的，包含地方的銀行和郵局。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"劉秘書長協慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:20:01.094000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:18.528000+08:00","text":"我們現在存放的地方大概是6家公庫銀行，平均利率大概一年是1.7%，所以比其他的銀行都還要來得高；我們也投資我們會裡面所屬事業單位的股票，年度獲利的狀況也都超過2%，基本上獲利是很穩定的。是、是。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"王委員安祥","start":"2026-04-09T10:20:18.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:24.132000+08:00","text":"最近金融不是非常穩定，本席也希望退輔會還是要密切觀察基金的狀況，感謝。","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:20:24.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:24.132000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T10:20:24.632000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:26.632000+08:00","text":"謝謝王安祥委員。","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T10:20:26.932000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T10:20:31.503429+08:00","text":"接下來我們邀請林楚茵委員上臺質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}