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謝謝謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:28:29+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T10:28:30+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，有請主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T10:28:30+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T10:28:31+08:00","text":"我們請主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:28:30.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:28:30.600000+08:00","text":"王委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:28:30.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:28:31.080000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:28:31.180000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:29:31.587000+08:00","text":"首先要很感謝各地的榮民醫院服務鄉親都做得很好，因為你們做得很好，所以立法委員經常會接到電話說鄉親在急診室，看上面有沒有病床可以上去，這個部分，我想因為量能的關係，鄉親認為好的醫院都會遇到這個問題，我也看到臺中榮總有新大樓在興建，是不是請臺中榮總院長報告一下目前這些新建物的進度，因為我到臺中看到有一些土木工程也都在蓋，目前的進度是如何？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:29:34.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:29:35.462000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的詢問。","quality":1},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:29:35.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:29:55.936000+08:00","text":"目前我們在蓋第三醫療大樓，為了因應中部地區的高齡化，我們會跟衛福部申請臺中榮總長青分院，預計是118年3月完工，目前進度超前，可望這一、兩年就會提早完工，這是一點。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:29:56.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:10.983000+08:00","text":"第二個案子就是為了照顧我們的護理、醫事人員，我們今年預計動工一個醫護宿舍，單人套房提供給護理師一個月的租金預計是1,500塊而已。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:11.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:22.827000+08:00","text":"再來，我們現在有個質子治療中心，目前硬體在這個月會完工，預計大概6月會開幕……","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:23.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:32.741000+08:00","text":"院長，我請問一下，如果你們那裡整體收入比較高的時候，你會加薪水嗎？","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:32.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:34.342000+08:00","text":"有，我們一直在幫……","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:34.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:35.382000+08:00","text":"我說你啦，你！","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:36.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:37.584000+08:00","text":"我自己喔？對。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:37.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:45.048000+08:00","text":"我自己目前應該是……我們會有個規定的上限，所以大概……我個人是不會啦！","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:45.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:54.693000+08:00","text":"我要說的是，會不會因為收益比較多，所以裡面的管理階層就會加薪水，有沒有這件事？","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:56.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:57.403000+08:00","text":"目前我們中榮的制度……","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:30:57.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:30:59.404000+08:00","text":"沒有這個制度？","quality":1},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-09T10:31:00.484000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:31:02.446000+08:00","text":"管理階層應該是比較固定的。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:31:02.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:31:38.606000+08:00","text":"我要提這個問題是因為，主委，針對榮總、榮民醫院、各地的農場等這些應該要思考的是，不是要賺錢，一方面照顧我們這些榮民、榮眷，有一些是重新就業，二方面也是照顧鄉親跟國人，我最近有看到報告在檢討榮民醫院、榮總的收入及表現等等，我覺得這些算是退輔會的醫院，因此不用想那麼多，不用想說賺不賺錢，這比較沒意思。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:31:39.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:32:02.341000+08:00","text":"第二個，退輔會有一個單位去承攬了空勤總隊跟總統專機的機棚，請問目前這個案子的進度如何？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:32:04.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:32:55.052000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們主要的執行單位是泛亞工程公司，這個案子它總共分成A、B、C、D等4個工程，在4個工程裡面A、C、D這3個工程案目前進度是超前的，這是一個整體的統包案，問題是出在B棟，B棟主要是工程公司覺得這裡面的設計有問題，這個問題是安全的問題，如果照原來的設計規劃走下去的話會有問題，所以現在停工，然後現在向工程會申訴，工程公司希望能夠解約，因為對方沒有要修改設計……","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:32:55.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:32:56.173000+08:00","text":"解約，如果重來的話……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:32:56.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:32:56.333000+08:00","text":"要修設計。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:32:56.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:32:57.454000+08:00","text":"要delay多久？","quality":1},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:33:02.753000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:33:21.040000+08:00","text":"工程公司說，如果把設計修完了之後，在安全無虞的狀況之下他可以接受，目前看這個設計的狀況，他是可以如期完工，如果要修這個設計的話；但是如果不修設計就沒辦法做，設計圖！","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:33:22.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:33:25.201000+08:00","text":"我知道，如果現在去修了那個設計……","quality":1},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-09T10:33:25.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T10:33:26.782000+08:00","text":"設計圖，他們就可以如期完工。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員義川","start":"2026-04-09T10:33:2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