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text":"另外，我剛剛提到怎麼做資源整合，包括選手住宿、膳食及空間如何規劃？","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:11:33.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:11:34.114000+08:00","text":"請教部長。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:11:34.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:11:48.242000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們也感謝您對於亞太國家棒球訓練基地的重視，確實我們也希望將亞太國家棒球訓練基地打造像委員您所說的這樣，可以成為我們培訓的基地。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:11:49.063000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:11:56.736000+08:00","text":"目前有與臺南市政府及棒協做了解以及接洽合作，針對這部分，我們會繼續積極地往這個方向邁進。","quality":0.78},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:11:59.610000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:12:19.163000+08:00","text":"其實那裡目前還非常陽春，雖然這座球場都蓋起來了，可是我剛剛說的住宿、膳食及生活機能都還沒有，所以你是不是要打造所謂的棒球村，必須要有這些生活機能，未來春訓選手過來也會比較容易選擇我們這樣的場地？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:12:19.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:12:27.349000+08:00","text":"我想要請部長，再做一些資源整合及盤點，怎麼跟臺南市政府攜手合作來打造棒球的心臟，好不好？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:12:27.349000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:12:28.349000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:12:28.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:13:07.644000+08:00","text":"另外，花一點時間跟你談一下水上救生，因為水上救生是結合游泳及救生技巧的競技運動，「溺水」除了2023年正式被聯合國世界衛生組織列為重要的公共衛生議題，在國際救生總會努力之下，已經說服了澳洲的奧委會跟IOC國際奧林匹克委員會體育部門的支持，國際救生總會正式提出申請，計劃在2032年由澳洲主辦的奧運會，要把水上救生運動正式列為奧運比賽項目。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:13:08.485000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:13:45.065000+08:00","text":"我想臺灣在水上救生的競技培育上，我們每年都舉辦全國中學生水上救生運動錦標賽，有關賽事表現的部分，像在2024年澳洲世界救生錦標賽中，臺灣男子組選手在12.5公尺的拋繩救生項目勇奪金牌，創造我國國家隊在世界救生錦標賽首度奪牌的歷史，可是我們臺灣對於水上救生比賽的重視程度，我覺得遠不及其他的水上運動。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:13:45.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:13:55.192000+08:00","text":"部長，既然它已經有可能列為未來的奧運項目，你是不是要對水上救生運動競技投入更多的資源？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:13:56.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:13:57.073000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分，你有什麼想法及規劃？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:13:58.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:05.388000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，有關水上救生運動的部分，我們會去了解並且與協會規劃他們的資源分配。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:05.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:05.668000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:05.668000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:05.688000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:06.188000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:07.330857+08:00","text":"謝謝部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:07.630857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:09.916571+08:00","text":"我們現在休息5分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:10.216571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:11.359429+08:00","text":"休息（11時14分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:11.659429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:13.373714+08:00","text":"繼續開會（11時20分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:13.673714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:15.388000+08:00","text":"現在繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:15.688000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:23.402286+08:00","text":"稍後在吳思瑤委員質詢之後，依先前的宣告，我們要處理臨時提案。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:14:23.702286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:14:26.559429+08:00","text":"請伍麗華委員進行質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}