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極健 游泳 射擊 跑步 馬術可是你也更清楚很多我們台灣我們國家這些學校的選手通常都會放棄哪一項"},{"start":493.718,"end":515.347,"text":"馬術通常都會放棄馬術好巧不巧我的助理國中的時候也參加過現代五項他也是放棄馬術因為第一個馬場就不好找那也貴重點是也很有他的危險性所以通常我們國人都會放棄這一項可是因為打馬事件所以2028"},{"start":517.789,"end":536.202,"text":"奧運要改為把馬術變成是障礙跑我覺得這個是我們國家的機會啊所以呢我們很希望能夠去把這樣的一個障礙跑的設施設備能夠處理那我知道的是其實長期以來政府提供給台東體中"},{"start":537.583,"end":548.746,"text":"有很多投入非常多的設施設備的改善經費這個我很了解但是他們目前就是沒有這個障礙跑的設施設備而且說實在錢也不多不到1500萬那我不太曉得說部長您的意見態度如何"},{"start":555.012,"end":580.383,"text":"那在現代五項馬術已經換成障礙跑的部分那確實我們會希望說讓更多的民眾能夠來參與這個然後希望它可以變成更加多人參與的一個項目所以部長您的意思是說會支持來做這樣的設施設備的補助改善我們會支持任何一個運動"},{"start":581.846,"end":593.339,"text":"所以會願意嗎我是希望說也有可能的話就是把它變成是國訓中心的一個分部這樣會不會更理想跟委員您報告這個我們會來評估看是否有機會這個"},{"start":596.179,"end":620.859,"text":"我是希望朝向這個方向因為2028在即嘛我覺得現在2026年初年中其實我們還有兩年多的時間可以準備所以我希望不要拖速度要快因為有很多的孩子其實另外的四項成績都很優秀那如果這一項的成績也能夠拿到我相信是很有幫助的好不好"},{"start":621.98,"end":627.375,"text":"那也請部長您加油您做得很好要加油要挺住謝謝謝謝委員也謝謝主席"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai 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Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:29:04.718000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:29:06.439000+08:00","text":"對，通常都會放棄馬術。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:29:06.439000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:29:23.506000+08:00","text":"好巧不巧，我的助理國中的時候也參加過現代五項，他也是放棄馬術，因為第一個，馬場不好找，而且也貴，重點是很有危險性，所以國人通常都會放棄這一項。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:29:23.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:29:32.391000+08:00","text":"可是因為打馬事件，2028奧運要把現代五項的馬術改為障礙跑。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:29:33.072000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:29:42.459000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是我們國家的機會，所以我們很希望能處理障礙跑的設施設備。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:29:43.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:29:59.726000+08:00","text":"我知道長期以來，政府在臺東體中投入很多設施設備的改善經費，這個我很瞭解，但他們目前就是沒有障礙跑的設施設備，說實在的，錢也不多，不到1,500萬元，我不太曉得部長的意見、態度如何？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:06.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:21.479000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，現代五項如同您剛剛講的，馬術已經換成障礙跑，確實我們會希望讓更多民眾能夠來參與，讓它變成更加多人參與的一個項目。","quality":0.772},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:22.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:28.662000+08:00","text":"所以部長的意思是會支持來做相關設施設備的補助和改善？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:29.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:31.383000+08:00","text":"我們會支持任何一項運動。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:32.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:33.407000+08:00","text":"所以會願意嘛！當然。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:34.428000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:40.975000+08:00","text":"我是希望有可能的話，把它變成國訓中心的一個分部，這樣會不會更理想？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:41.596000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:30:44.339000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這個我們會來評估看是否有機會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:30:47.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:11.518000+08:00","text":"好，我是希望朝向這個方向，因為2028奧運在即，現在是2026年年中，其實我們還有兩年多的時間可以準備，所以我希望不要拖，速度要快，因為有很多孩子在另外4項的成績都很優秀，如果也能拿到這一項的成績，我相信是很有幫助的。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:11.618000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:11.839000+08:00","text":"好不好？好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:11.839000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:13.261000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:13.261000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:14.645000+08:00","text":"也請部長加油！","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:15.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:17.894000+08:00","text":"您做得很好，要加油、要挺住！謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:17.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:17.914000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:17.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:18.355000+08:00","text":"也謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:18.855000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:21.712143+08:00","text":"謝謝伍麗華委員的詢答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:22.012143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:24.583571+08:00","text":"下一位請吳思瑤委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}