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跟委員您報告那真的感謝委員您對於我們這個運動員的參賽權益的重視那在這點上面我們從昨天一直以來應該講說這段時間一直以來在輔導各個協會在現行的狀況下去改為申請這個基金的這個預算然後希望不要影響到運動員的所有權益參賽權益"},{"start":98.396,"end":114.449,"text":"那現在因為這個田徑竟然是屬於贏標籤就表示說國外選手也會來參賽嘛也會來報名嘛對不對對所以如果今天取消的話其實影響的當然我們自己台灣的選手會影響到因為這個可能涉及到說這個今年九月舉行的這個名古屋的亞運的嘛"},{"start":115.51,"end":133.223,"text":"還有有打標的問題還有對國際賽舉辦賽事的一些這個信譽問題對啊所以我是覺得說田協不要輕易就放棄就是說當然我知道他的原因是在於說沒有預算不是說他本身不願意辦那所以說現在用基金的方式那田協有同意說他在願意再舉辦嗎"},{"start":134.224,"end":156.486,"text":"跟委員您報告,那我們今天會在自己在跟田協這邊做積極的接觸,希望他可以繼續舉辦這個賽事。那有沒有信心在讓田協繼續再來舉辦?我個人是希望他可以舉辦成功,因為其實這對不管是國際上還是我們台灣的選手都是一個達標的賽事,其實非常,對選手來講其實非常重要。"},{"start":157.166,"end":175.536,"text":"因為每個選手要參加比賽有一定的積分才能去參加更高階的比賽我也希望說部長跟我們所有運動部的同仁再努力希望這個田協這項比賽不要取消掉這影響到台灣選手的權益很大那也會覺得國外選手覺得說本來要來參加了後來"},{"start":177.177,"end":195.529,"text":"怎麼沒有辦呢?他們不會去管說是因為台灣的這個運算沒有過他們覺得說台灣怎麼把這個賽事取消了那剛剛部長也有提到說除了這個田協要辦這個比賽運算受到影響之外還有沒有其他的類似的這個比賽也受到影響"},{"start":196.792,"end":210.643,"text":"其實應該是從去年運動部成立的時候我們就已經積極輔導各個協會在今年的這個2026年的時候來使用這個公務預算但因為在現行的狀況下那我們都已經轉為輔導協會來使用這個基金的預算"},{"start":215.246,"end":232.632,"text":"過去就是避免會有這樣的事情發生所以其實在公務預算以及基金預算我們都有別類相關在國際賽事的舉辦這一個部分那這部分我們都會積極輔導各個協會那因為停協它就受到影響我在問的是說除了停協之外還有沒有其他的本來是在公務預算後來改成基金的"},{"start":234.953,"end":246.016,"text":"應該是原本輔導各個協會的應該是所有比賽都會有遇到相同的狀況那當然我們都會一併的輔導各個協會我們還是希望說能把原有的賽事能夠繼續舉辦所以我們還是會輔導各個協會使用基金來舉辦賽事那你知道說田徑辦這一場比賽要花多少錢嗎"},{"start":256.018,"end":261.929,"text":"跟委員您報告他申請的總經費為兩千萬兩千萬那我們是就是兩千萬就補助嗎?全額補助嗎?跟"},{"start":265.373,"end":293.85,"text":"跟委員您報告那他申請的補助的本部的補助的這個額度為1472萬那對對對補助占七成左右了嘛對啊那當然對他們來講你沒有這個補助當然要辦下去就很困難了那我希望說除了天協之外其他可能會因為公務預算沒有辦法這個三讀通過了這些協會要舉辦的這個比賽那你現在都是把它轉到基金去的嘛"},{"start":294.73,"end":315.431,"text":"就不要受到影響那會後給我一份資料有哪一些協會今年要舉辦這一個比賽然後本來用公務預算後來轉到基金去了那是不是都可以順利來舉辦會後再麻煩給本席一個資料因為今年九月就是有這個名古屋亞運了嘛那預算有沒有通過對於這個名古屋亞運有沒有影響"},{"start":317.854,"end":334.604,"text":"跟委員您報告這部分預算沒有通過應該是我們民國亞運應該還是在基金的這部分來控制那還好有個基金不然沒有基金的話連這個民國亞運都會受到影響我最後再請教部長我們現在你們這個運動部裡面有這個運動幣對不對對然後呢衛福部有健康幣"},{"start":344.43,"end":356.185,"text":"那你們運動幣就是這個每份500塊讓大家用抽的然後是做運動看比賽添裝備嘛對不對然後呢這個那你知道衛福部他們有健康幣"},{"start":357.839,"end":375.229,"text":"知道那他們健康幣呢他們是說你如果是接種疫苗健康檢查嚴正的篩檢這些行為累積健康的這一個積分所以我是覺得說那當然運動部希望說有這個運動幣但是運動幣我看起來是屬於比較靜態的因為你說看比賽添裝備當然有一個做運動可能到這個運動中心或是其他運動場合這個是屬於比較動態的"},{"start":384.494,"end":410.069,"text":"然後呢這個衛福部的這個健康幣呢又跟運動的關係又比較少它雖然名為健康幣可是就是比較是屬於健康檢查這個癌症的這個篩檢等等然後累積積分那當然呢這個不論是運動幣或是健康幣我想請這一個部長可以參考一下新加坡新加坡他們有一個Healthy 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APP它就是你下載一個程式然後它引導民眾在飲食、運動、睡眠這方面做出更有利健康的一個選擇然後它透過可以累積、可以兌換的一個制度讓每一次流汗轉回實質的回饋等於是說你如果有運動"},{"start":433.165,"end":457.582,"text":"運動的這些實質的這些點數可以換成紅利那紅利你可以變成比如說買菜的錢那這個大家就有誘因了而且它這個APP除了個人之外它也可以跟這個社區一起結合然後跟這個社區有一些主題的活動和一些社區的挑戰賽讓個人的活動可以跟社區的這個社群一起來參與"},{"start":458.342,"end":477.532,"text":"那我覺得這是比較動態的因為它直接是透過運動直接透過運動然後累積點數然後呢可以讓大家有這個動機去那除了可以轉成這個紅利買東西那也可以參與這個社區活動甚至還可以做公益啦我不知道部長之前知不知道這個新加坡他們一個健康促進局有這一個APP"},{"start":478.502,"end":507.885,"text":"跟委員您報告那感謝您對於我們這運動幣的重視那其實我們我確實在之前不太清楚新加坡但確實我們在運動幣這一塊確實是未來有正在往這個方向在規劃那其實那所以我是建議啦就是說有運動幣也有健康幣是不是可以跟你們運動部跟衛福部可以做個整合啦跟委員您報告這部分那個這個院長也有指示說我們這個幾個幣都會希望說有這個跨部會的合作"},{"start":508.385,"end":531.005,"text":"大家搞不清楚說健康幣是屬於運動部還是衛福部運動幣大家可能覺得是這個運動部啦但是我是希望說第一個把這兩個幣做個結合第二個比較動態一點的那個動態一點就是說不是我看比賽或是說我就做健檢希望動態一點就是說你有做運動"},{"start":531.966,"end":556.336,"text":"把這個運動呢,利用這個APP下載然後變成一個點數,那這個點數累積呢我們可以做我剛才所講的那些事情可不可以你們朝這個方向參考一下新加坡的這個APP然後呢,鼓勵大家全民來運動我們會往這個方向來對話大概多久可以給我一個方向就是說這個運動必歌當然你們要跟衛福部一起討論啦"},{"start":557.797,"end":575.988,"text":"但是呢大概這個方向如果往這方面來走的話做整合這方面來走的話大概多久可以給我一個初步的報告跟委員您報告因為健康幣目前應該還沒完整的出來那是不是容許我們運動部跟衛福部好好的溝通後續的發展那是不是"},{"start":582.851,"end":595.234,"text":"我會再請運動部還有衛福部我們一起來討論一下好不好給你一個時間短時間你也不容易說這多久能做到因為不是只有你運動部啦還涉及到衛福部好不好謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:50.968000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:53.972000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我請李部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:53.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:54.212000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:59.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:00.083000+08:00","text":"委員午安。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:00.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:00.663000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:01.664000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:12.087000+08:00","text":"上次跟部長一起去爬觀音山，希望下次有機會再一起跑步，我覺得我應該屬於不會喘的那一種。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:12.087000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:14.508000+08:00","text":"委員的體力非常好，令人驚呼。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:14.508000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:15.968000+08:00","text":"這樣子啊？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:15.968000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:19.349000+08:00","text":"有我們金牌部長的認證，讓我信心十足。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:20.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:47.887000+08:00","text":"請教一下，今天大家都很關心田協本來要舉辦臺灣田徑公開賽，但後來田協秘書長王景成說總預算沒有過……因為臺灣品牌賽應該是在2.0的預算裡面，屬於新興預算，而這筆預算現在沒有過，整個總預算都沒有過，所以他就宣布要取消這項賽事，我覺得很可惜。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:48.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:56.614000+08:00","text":"後來，今天部長提到可以利用基金預算的部分，希望田協再舉辦，是不是？對。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:56.614000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:13.893000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，真的感謝您對運動員參賽權益的重視，在這一點上，我們從這段時間以來，我們一直輔導各協會在現行狀況下改為申請基金預算，希望不要影響到運動員所有參賽權益。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:18.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:23.262000+08:00","text":"這項田徑賽事既然屬於銀標籤，就表示國外選手也會參賽、也會報名嘛！","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:23.442000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:23.642000+08:00","text":"對不對？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:24.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:32.429000+08:00","text":"如果取消的話，當然對我們臺灣自己的選手影響會很大，因為可能涉及今年九月舉行的名古屋亞運了嘛！","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:33.510000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:38.594000+08:00","text":"有達標的問題，還有舉辦國際賽事的信譽問題。對啊！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:38.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:46.980000+08:00","text":"所以我覺得田協不要輕易放棄，當然我知道其原因在於沒有預算，而不是本身不願意辦。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:46.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:51.223000+08:00","text":"那麼現在用基金方式，田協同意並願意再舉辦嗎？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:52.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:00.832000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們今天會跟田協做積極的接觸，希望他們可以繼續舉辦這項賽事。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:01.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:04.076000+08:00","text":"那有沒有信心再繼續讓田協舉辦？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:04.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:14.466000+08:00","text":"我個人是希望可以舉辦成功，因為不管對於國際上或是臺灣的選手來說都是達標的賽事，對選手來講其實是非常重要的。對啊！","quality":0.827},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:15.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:28.774000+08:00","text":"每個選手參加比賽時，都要有一定的積分才能參加更高階的比賽，我也希望部長跟所有運動部同仁再努力，田協這項比賽不要取消掉，好不好？","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:29.794000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:35.998000+08:00","text":"除了對於臺灣選手權益影響很大，國外選手也會覺得本來要來參加了，後來怎麼沒辦了？","quality":0.694},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:36.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:43.162000+08:00","text":"他們不會管這是因為臺灣的預算沒有過，只會覺得臺灣怎麼把這項賽事取消了。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:44.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:53.529000+08:00","text":"除了剛剛部長提到田協要辦比賽的預算受到影響之外，還有沒有其他類似的比賽也受到影響？","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:54.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:08.623000+08:00","text":"其實應該是從去年運動部成立開始，我們就已經積極輔導各協會，在今年、2026年使用公務預算，但是在現行狀況下，我們已經轉為輔導協會使用基金預算。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:13.246000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:23.570000+08:00","text":"過去就是為了避免會有這樣的事情發生，所以在公務預算以及基金預算其實都有編列舉辦國際賽事相關部分，我們都會積極輔導各協會。","quality":0.825},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:24.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:30.612000+08:00","text":"因為田協就受到影響了，所以我的問題是除了田協之外，還有沒有其他本來編在公務預算、但後來改成基金的？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:32.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:40.175000+08:00","text":"應該說原本輔導各協會辦理的所有比賽都遇到相同的狀況，我們當然都會一併輔導各協會。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:40.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:43.256000+08:00","text":"我們還是希望原有賽事能夠繼續舉辦，所以仍會輔導各協會使用基金舉辦賽事。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:43.396000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:44.016000+08:00","text":"那你知道田徑協會辦這場比賽要花多少錢嗎？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:54.018000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:57.545000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，他們申請的總經費為2,000萬。2,000萬？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:57.545000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:59.909000+08:00","text":"那你們是2,000萬全額補助嗎？","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:04.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:12.578000+08:00","text":"針對他們的申請，本部補助的額度為1,472萬元。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:13.439000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:14.519000+08:00","text":"對，補助占7成左右了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:15.300000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:18.362000+08:00","text":"那麼對他們來講，若沒有這筆補助，要辦下去當然就很困難了。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:19.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:46.224000+08:00","text":"除了田協之外，其他協會舉辦的比賽如果可能受到公務預算沒有辦法三讀通過影響，你們現在都轉到基金去，就是希望不要受到影響，那麼會後請給我一份資料，包括有哪些協會是今年要舉辦比賽，本來要用公務預算，後來轉到基金去的，以及是不是都可以順利舉辦，麻煩會後給本席資料。","quality":0.754},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:46.224000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:47.285000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:47.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:53.431000+08:00","text":"今年9月就是名古屋亞運了，那麼預算沒有通過對於名古屋亞運有沒有影響？","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:55.854000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:01.057000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，如果這部分預算沒有通過，名古屋亞運應該還是從基金動支。基金？對。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:03.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:09.342000+08:00","text":"還好有個基金，要不然沒有基金的話，連名古屋亞運都會受到影響。","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:09.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:11.983000+08:00","text":"我最後再請教部長，現在運動部有運動幣，對不對？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:11.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:12.604000+08:00","text":"然後，衛福部有健康幣嘛！對。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:22.610000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:31.602000+08:00","text":"你們的運動幣是每份500塊，讓大家用抽的，可以用在做運動、看比賽、添裝備，對不對？對。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:32.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:35.959000+08:00","text":"那你知道衛福部有健康幣？知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:37.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:45.885000+08:00","text":"關於健康幣，他們說可以用在接種疫苗、健康檢查、癌症篩檢這些行為，累積健康積分。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:48.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:51.288000+08:00","text":"運動部說希望有運動幣，但依我看起來，運動幣屬於比較靜態的，因為可以看比賽、添裝備。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:01:51.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:01:53.209000+08:00","text":"當然還有一項用途是做運動，可能是到運動中心或其他運動場合，這是屬於比較動態的。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:02:03.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:02:15.842000+08:00","text":"而衛福部的健康幣跟運動幣的關係又比較少，雖然名為健康幣，可是比較偏向以健康檢查、癌症篩檢等等累積積分。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:02:18.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:02:24.106000+08:00","text":"不論是運動幣或健康幣，我想請部長參考一下新加坡。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:02:24.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365 app，這個Healthy 365 app就是透過下載程式，引導民眾在飲食、運動、睡眠這方面做出更有利健康的選擇，透過累積、兌換制度，讓每一次流汗轉為實質的回饋。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:02:48.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:02:59.951000+08:00","text":"等於說如果有運動，實質運動的點數可以換成紅利，紅利可以變成……比如說買菜錢，這樣對大家就有誘因了。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:00.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:15.582000+08:00","text":"而且，這個app除了個人之外，也可以跟社區結合、辦一些主題活動、挑戰賽，讓個人的活動可以跟社區社群一起參與。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:16.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:29.609000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是比較動態的，因為是直接透過運動累積點數，讓大家有動機，除了可以轉成紅利、買東西，也能參與社區活動，甚至還可以做公益。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:30.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:35.232000+08:00","text":"部長之前知不知道新加坡的健康促進局有這個app？","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:36.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:39.885000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，感謝您對運動幣的重視。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:40.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:48.972000+08:00","text":"我之前確實不太清楚新加坡，但我們就運動幣這一塊的未來正在往這個方向規劃。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:50.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:03:57.158000+08:00","text":"我是建議，既然有運動幣，也有健康幣，那麼運動部跟衛福部是不是可以做個整合？","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:03:59.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:05.865000+08:00","text":"關於這部分，院長也有指示，針對這幾種幣希望有跨部會的合作。對啊！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:06.385000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:10.789000+08:00","text":"不然大家搞不清楚到底健康幣屬於運動部還是衛福部。","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:13.692000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:22.860000+08:00","text":"對於運動幣，大家當然可能覺得屬於運動部，但是我希望：第一，把這兩種幣加以結合，第二，用途要比較動態一點。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:23.580000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:37.769000+08:00","text":"動態一點不是看比賽、健檢，而是既然做了運動，就利用下載app把運動變成點數，點數的累積可以做我剛剛所講的那些事情。","quality":0.731},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:38.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:46.293000+08:00","text":"你們可不可以朝這個方向，參考一下新加坡這個app，以鼓勵全民運動？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:46.293000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:47.293000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:46.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:47.033000+08:00","text":"我們會往這個方向規劃。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:47.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:54.316000+08:00","text":"大概多久可以給我方向，就是針對運動幣……當然你們要跟衛福部一起討論啦！","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:55.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:03.182000+08:00","text":"但是方向上如果往整合這方面走，大概多久可以給我初步報告？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:03.642000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:12.988000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，健康幣目前應該還沒有完整推出來，是否容許我們運動部跟衛福部好好溝通後續發展？","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:20.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:25.852000+08:00","text":"沒關係，我會後再請運動部還有衛福部一起討論一下，好不好？好。","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:27.212000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:33.234000+08:00","text":"就算給你一個時間，短時間你也不容易說多久能做到，因為不是只涉及你們運動部，還涉及衛福部。謝謝。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:33.734000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:34.876857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:35.176857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:36.891143+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:37.191143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:39.762571+08:00","text":"下一位請鍾佳濱委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}