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我不曉得是不是運動部有人給他一個錯誤的訊息是不是認為說 這個預算我沒有辦法動之可是沒有辦法動之 他不是卡在立法院他是卡在行政院我覺得這一點一定要把他講清楚 說明白"},{"start":371.784,"end":391.769,"text":"那麼如果今天行政院院長從善如流他如果能夠聽張善政的話的話那麼其實也不需要去動用預發基金也可以讓預發基金做更有效率的一個運用不需要再去運用這筆基金這筆預算有邊嘛有邊也有過"},{"start":396.07,"end":417.587,"text":"有邊有過就可以動直所以我覺得這部分還是請部長回去可以跟行政院再做一些溝通跟爭取如果說今天一定說718億通通都不能動用其結果就會發生這一次大家搞錯方向了好不好"},{"start":418.612,"end":429.165,"text":"跟委員您報告,當然我們還是希望說首先很感謝你對我們台灣運動的重視那我們還是希望說用運發基金來去讓比賽能夠順利辦成"},{"start":430.305,"end":450,"text":"我知道部長我剛講說我肯定部長有這個態度而有這個決心要去解決這個事情運發基金他是一筆基金在那邊但是事實上這個預算已經有編列立法院也已經通過了其實你們隨時都可以動之好不好"},{"start":452.315,"end":473.972,"text":"不好意思 請委員尊重現場在質詢的委員的權益不好意思 請您不要發言尊重現場在質詢委員的權益不好意思 請您結束您的發言剛剛中嘉賓委員發言的時候我也全程沒有站起來尊重委員發言質詢的時間"},{"start":477.082,"end":492.074,"text":"基本上我刚才的态度刚才我把这个讯息正确的信息都已经传达了那我觉得我也尊重委员的发言但是我觉得更应该尊重我们主席的一个才智谢谢主席谢谢"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:51.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:57.726000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我請李部長還有國際事務司張司長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:57.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:57.846000+08:00","text":"有請李部長和張司長。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:57.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:58.106000+08:00","text":"委員您好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:12.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:13.028000+08:00","text":"對不起！","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:13.368000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:17.371000+08:00","text":"其實時間不應該這時開始計算，因為他們還沒有上來，我對官員要尊重，要等到他們上來才能開始質詢。","quality":0.381},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:17.371000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:18.191000+08:00","text":"重新計算時間，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:25.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:28.017000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:28.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:28.898000+08:00","text":"部長好、司長好。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:29.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:37.823000+08:00","text":"今天就是聚焦在一個滿重要的問題，那就是臺灣國際田徑公開賽停辦的問題。","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:41.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:55.390000+08:00","text":"我們中華民國田徑協會的秘書長說這是因為立法院一直沒有辦法通過總預算的緣故，我想請問部長，如果部長不清楚，可以請旁邊的司長代為回答。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:56.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:13.761000+08:00","text":"我左邊的就是你們運動部送進立法院的預算書，請問一下，臺灣田徑公開賽是不是在我所框起來的「臺灣品牌賽事精選計畫」科目裡面？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:14.481000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:21.548000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，在運動部成立的時候，我們輔導各個協會是希望說在今年都來申請這一個……","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:21.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:25.952000+08:00","text":"我問的是是不是在這個科目內，我們就事論事，因為預算要一個一個看。","quality":0.621},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:26.212000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:30.115000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，我們後續都已經輔導他們，希望他們來申請。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:30.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:30.215000+08:00","text":"不是啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:31.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:31.977000+08:00","text":"是這個科目對不對嘛！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:32.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:34.940000+08:00","text":"來，請司長回答，因為這個是你們編列的。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張司長進旺","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:35.180000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:41.366000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們在每一個年度結束的時候會選出精選賽事。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:41.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:42.907000+08:00","text":"科目對不對嘛？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:42.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:45.069000+08:00","text":"我框起來的科目是不是正確的？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"張司長進旺","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:45.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:47.231000+08:00","text":"目前我手上沒有這個，應該是列在2.0裡面的。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:50.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:14:51.154000+08:00","text":"沒有錯嘛！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:14:51.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:15:05.863000+08:00","text":"臺灣品牌賽事2.0的預算裡面分為兩筆，一筆是3,000萬元，一筆是7億7,000萬元，所以這個在我們的預算書裡面確實是有的，對不對？","quality":0.42},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:15:06.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:15:21.811000+08:00","text":"而且王景成秘書長他也是說編列臺灣品牌賽2.0預算，所以我跟你們確認。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:15:22.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:16:06.311000+08:00","text":"目前總預算確實還沒有完全通過，但是在立法院已經通過的新興計畫預算718億元裡，就包含運動部主管的臺灣品牌賽事計畫，一共8億元，這裡面還括弧標註各縣市，因為這符合你們在總預算裡面提到的這一筆預算是用來補助各縣市還有相關的運動團體，你們在科目裡面的說明也說得很清楚。","quality":0.817},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:16:09.454000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:16:51.640000+08:00","text":"當然今天部長提出了一些所謂的補救辦法，說用運發基金來協調，問題是這一筆預算雖然在你們的總預算裡面有編列，但是通過的718億元新興計畫預算內也已經涵蓋了這一筆，所以如果不是行政院卓榮泰院長壓著各部會不能執行這718億元預算的話，運動部大可來動用這8億元預算，不是嗎？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:16:51.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:17:04.608000+08:00","text":"所以我要講的是，這個確實是預算卡關，但是它的卡關是卡在行政院而不是立法院，這個一定要先敘明，一定要講清楚。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:17:05.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:17:19.038000+08:00","text":"因為718億元我們已經通過了，裡面也確實涵蓋我剛才所詢問的臺灣品牌賽事的精選計畫8億元。","quality":0.474},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:17:23.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:17:35.165000+08:00","text":"我知道部長有這個態度也有決心想要解決這個問題，所以你動用到運發基金，這樣可不可以做？","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:17:35.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:17:52.174000+08:00","text":"當然也可以，可是我在這邊要特別提到，不是你們不能動用這筆預算，之所以不能動用這筆預算，是行政院卓榮泰院長下的令，不是立法院沒有通過所致。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:17:53.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:18:16.880000+08:00","text":"我想可能部長不好意思去向卓榮泰院長喊話，但就如同張善政市長所言，整個臺灣不能一直在等卓揆，所以我們在這邊還是呼籲，行政院只要去執行這718億元，就不會讓我們中華民國田徑協會秘書長誤認為說這是因為立法院沒有通過總預算所致。","quality":0.822},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:18:25.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:18:30.055000+08:00","text":"他搞錯了，我不曉得是不是運動部有人給他一個錯誤的訊息，他是不是認為說這個預算沒有辦法動支，可是沒有辦法動支不是卡在立法院而是卡在行政院，我覺得一定要把這點講清楚、說明白。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:18:47.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:19:06.229000+08:00","text":"如果今天行政院院長從善如流，他如果能夠聽張善政的話，那麼其實不需要動用運發基金，可以讓運發基金做更有效率的運用，不需要再去運用這筆基金，因為這筆預算有編嘛！","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:19:06.709000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:19:12.872000+08:00","text":"有編列也有通過，既然有編也有過，那就可以動支。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:19:13.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:19:31.926000+08:00","text":"所以我覺得這一部分還是請部長回去跟行政院再做一些溝通跟爭取，如果今天一定要說718億元統統都不能動用，其結果就會發生像這次大家搞錯方向的事了。","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:19:32.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:19:32.567000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:19:33.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:19:44.145000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先很感謝您對我們臺灣運動的重視，那我們還是希望用運發基金來讓比賽能夠順利辦成。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:19:45.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:04.019000+08:00","text":"我知道，我剛剛講了，我肯定部長有這個態度也有這個決心要去解決這個事情，運發基金它是一筆基金在那邊，但是事實上這個預算已經有編列，立法院也已經通過了，其實你們隨時都可以動支。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:04.759000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:04.980000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:04.980000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:06.698000+08:00","text":"講太久了，可不可以快速結束。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:06.698000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:08.416000+08:00","text":"差不多了，好不好？","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:08.416000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:13.400000+08:00","text":"請委員尊重現場質詢委員的權益，不好意思！","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:14.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:18.744000+08:00","text":"請您不要發言，尊重現場正在質詢委員的權益。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:18.744000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:19.744000+08:00","text":"請他快點結束，因為大家都在等。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:19.744000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:20.744000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員……","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:20.225000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:20.825000+08:00","text":"不好意思！","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:21.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:28.972000+08:00","text":"請你結束你的發言，剛剛鍾佳濱委員發言的時候，我也全程沒有站起來，請尊重委員發言質詢的時間。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:33.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:44.953000+08:00","text":"我剛才的態度已經把這個正確的訊息傳達了，我也尊重委員的發言，但是我覺得更應該尊重我們主席的裁示。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:46.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:46.514000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席！謝謝！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:47.014000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:48.156857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:48.456857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:50.742571+08:00","text":"謝謝王委員的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:20:51.042571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:20:55.328286+08:00","text":"下一位質詢的委員是鄭天財鄭委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}