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沒聽得聽得沒你講一個人聽不懂就要檢討啊不是不是不能這樣子把責任都給民眾啊表示政府有這個責任嘛加強宣導好不好你誤解我的意思加強宣導是我們兩個的共同結論"},{"start":331.394,"end":349.009,"text":"持續加強 可是你回答不能說會聽得懂聽不懂是你的經歷嘛不是不是 我的意思是說沒有聽到我們的宣導你要改變方法嘛 對不對因為我們的宣導費用確實沒有那麼多對啦 沒有聽懂你的宣導你要改變方法去讓人家聽得懂嘛這是政府的責任嘛聽得懂跟聽得懂兩個都要一起一定要讓民眾好好的去宣導讓大家防範於未然嘛"},{"start":356.696,"end":385.681,"text":"那接下來本席要跟你討論一個居住的這個問題喔好 那個張立柏請回座喔部長我相信在我們長者的居住本席希望跟你討論這個問題喔也就是我們看到喔這個長者居住的部分現在是90.40萬那年增呢是12.53%那換句話說一年啦 家育的部分呢增加的部分是10萬那我們現在都大概都是在於"},{"start":386.181,"end":413.655,"text":"社區關懷活動參與為主這個也很好但是我們已經看到這個嚴重的議題因為增加了這個年增是12.53%孤老居住的這個部分這個是社會非常重要的一環所以本席認為在緊急應變跟長照的這個銜接那我們要怎麼樣用住宅為單位主動的風險管理的這個機制"},{"start":414.776,"end":428.556,"text":"因為現在目前政策明顯是落後在整個人口結構的一個變化它變化非常的大會越來越長者我們台灣的人口長者會越來越多那我們要怎麼樣去"},{"start":430.673,"end":450.893,"text":"應對對於已經突破90萬戶那持續在成長的這個孤老住宅呢那我們是不是應該去研議要怎麼樣去建構一個一致性的清澈就在於分級的風險管理機制它包含了通報包含了這個巡防還有緊急應變的這個標準"},{"start":453.015,"end":462.243,"text":"我認為這一塊是現在我們立即要啟動因為老年化人口在台灣的人口結構是持續在增加請做說明"},{"start":467.294,"end":484.925,"text":"跟委員報告我們這次內政部推的這個老宅延壽就已經結合剛剛委員提到的這個問題因為無老人老這個是目前要面對的所以我們在老宅延壽裡面就針對這些比較古老的這些老人他在裡面必須要做的一些無障礙空間的改善"},{"start":485.405,"end":501.848,"text":"我們每一次開地方說明會都邀請衛福部這邊你所說的這個本席非常清楚部長請聽清楚本席的提問現在我們做的硬體設備裡頭有加注長者、孤老者他要怎麼樣讓他安全這個本席都了解"},{"start":502.389,"end":517.202,"text":"本席所說的也就是人數一直在增加已經有達到90萬戶90萬戶而且每一年在增加所以本席希望能夠在於通報巡防以及緊急應變怎麼樣去跟長照來接軌這一塊"},{"start":519.404,"end":538.478,"text":"本席認為應該組一個專案好好的來研討這應該是衛福部的業務相關因為你們也相關不是只有不要推不是只有衛福部衛福部有衛福部的工作我們內政部也有內政部的工作因為政府橫向的組織非常的重要一定要好好去演繹好不好"},{"start":540.059,"end":566.391,"text":"這樣子才能夠串聯起來讓長者他有所依歸啊好不好好好去研議啦那大概一個月的時間把你們研議的方向可以嗎給本席怎麼樣去串接看衛福部那邊的一個計畫我們會配合他一些相關的資料你們也必須啊對對我們會配對呀好一個月時間把你們整合的方向"},{"start":567.697,"end":569.869,"text":"整合的方向給本席嗎 好不好我們繼續研討嘛 好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:04.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:05.799000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，楊瓊瓔發言，邀請部長。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:05.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:09.383000+08:00","text":"好，麻煩被葉元之委員誇獎的劉世芳部長上臺。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:09.383000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:17.518000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:17.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:04:17.819000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:04:18.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:23.273000+08:00","text":"我想我們要來討論的道路交通管理處罰條例在112年三讀通過，所以相關交通部跟警政單位都有在現場，我們一起共同討論，也就是針對於汽機車未停讓行人加重處罰的部分，上限由3,600塊提高到的部分，本席也提案要提高到6,000元，但是依據內政部統計的資料顯示，114年舉發路口不停讓行人違規的件數達到12.6萬件，較113年增加了15%，其中汽車遭舉發不停讓件數是五萬餘件；機車遭舉發不停讓的件數是七萬餘件，顯示在112年我們修法提高未停讓行人的罰則，仍難以發揮嚇阻的效果，反而這個法提高罰則之後，案件量提高了15%。","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:24.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:45.740000+08:00","text":"在這樣的情況之下，修法跟執法的成效明顯是有落差，所以請教部長，交通部次長也在這裡，警政單位也在這裡，未停讓行人罰則已經大幅地加重，但是舉發的件數是年年在增加，你認為原因是什麼？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:45.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:46.980000+08:00","text":"要如何去改善？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:47.080000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:05:52.346000+08:00","text":"部長請做說明，還是次長要說明？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-04-09T12:05:53.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:06:14.920000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，這個最主要是大家都知道，有關大家希望尊重行人在行穿線上能夠禮讓等等，應該是中央跟地方對於行人安全的部分，或是車輛有序的部分，有一個中央跟地方的道安會報，聯席會報裡頭大家共同討論都認為……","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:06:14.920000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:06:15.920000+08:00","text":"整個流程、程序大家都清楚，本席要請教的是為什麼反而是增加的？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-04-09T12:06:14.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:06:54.822000+08:00","text":"我跟委員講一下，因為它是列為重點的執法項目，所以可以看得到件數是有增加的，而且修法確實也有發揮一定的效果，但是修法的效果可能需要一點時間來呈現，不過透過這樣的修法或這樣的執法，其實我們有做相關的民意調查，普遍的民眾都認為在路口上有關遵守行穿線的規定，這樣的情形其比例是提高的。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:06:56.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:07:20.400000+08:00","text":"次長是這個說法，我請部長說明一下，你們所做的統計，修法過後反而是增加，但是次長是說，因為重點去稽查才會造成案件增加，這個說法，本席沒有辦法認同，因為法律通過之後，我們希望看到所有國人的安全受到保障，這才是重點啦，當舉發的案件已經提高了15%，我們還樂觀說這是因為我們的加強稽查，但是事件還是一樣發生啊！","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:07:20.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:07:22.242000+08:00","text":"所以這樣的說法我沒有辦法接受嘛，我們要怎麼樣去防止，讓市民、讓國人能夠安全，這才是重點。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:07:37.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:07:47.242000+08:00","text":"報告委員，你講的大概都對啦，第一個，我們修法通過到現在大概不到兩年的時間，所以交通單位或者是警政單位當然會去加強，變成是重點執法，像剛剛次長跟您報告的部分。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:07:47.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:08:25.493000+08:00","text":"但是我也從交通事故跟行人死亡人數的統計表來看，從111年到114年，確實整體交通事故是有降低的，從三千多出頭到現在2,800左右，也就是不管是哪一種統計，包括處理交通違規的部分，或是行人用路的安全，其實它確實是有效果，可是因為時間很短，所以它下降的趨勢沒有那麼容易看得出來，因此未來要不要持續地加強路口不停讓行人的取締，在道安會報，包括地方的道安會報，我想他們都會做滾動式的調整。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:08:27.253000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:09.009000+08:00","text":"部長，您這樣的說法，還是沒有回答本席的提問，第一個，法通過之後，我們的目標就是希望國人能夠安全，所以本席認為，你們去稽查產生了這些案件，表示整體性是有這個問題的，所以除了你們實施的重點稽查之外，本席認為你們要好好的、加速的去宣導，預防重於治療，你要好好的去宣導現在我們的法令是如何，大家不要衝、不要硬闖行穿線，要怎麼樣停讓行人，本席具體建議，宣導的部分要加強。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:09.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:12.994000+08:00","text":"好，我想我們兩個部會其實都有加強宣導，但是會聽的人才聽得懂啦，不會聽的人當然是聽不懂。","quality":0.641},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:13.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.456000+08:00","text":"你說一個人家聽不懂的宣導，當然是你們要去檢討啊！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.456000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:15.456000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.596000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.836000+08:00","text":"不是、不是！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.836000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:15.836000+08:00","text":"我的意思是……","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:14.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:17.019000+08:00","text":"不能這樣子把責任都推給民眾，表示政府有這個責任嘛，加強宣導，好不好？","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:17.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:30.055000+08:00","text":"委員，你誤解我的意思，加強宣導是我們兩個的共同結論，我們來持續加強。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:30.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:30.995000+08:00","text":"可是你的回答不能說會聽的人才聽得懂啊！不是。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:31.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:34.118000+08:00","text":"聽不懂，是你的責任嘛，是講的人的問題。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:34.238000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:36.740000+08:00","text":"不是，我的意思是說沒有聽到我們的宣導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:36.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:38.082000+08:00","text":"你要改變方法嘛，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:38.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:39.863000+08:00","text":"因為我們的宣導費用確實沒有那麼多。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:39.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:45.208000+08:00","text":"對啦，沒有聽懂你的宣導，所以你要改變方法去讓人家聽得懂，因為這是政府的責任嘛。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:45.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:45.888000+08:00","text":"聽得到跟聽得懂，兩個都要一起。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:45.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:46.969000+08:00","text":"一定要讓民眾好好地了解，透過宣導讓大家防範於未然。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:09:54.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:09:59.957000+08:00","text":"接下來，本席要跟你討論居住的問題，交通部次長請回座。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:10:00.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:11:08.673000+08:00","text":"部長，本席希望跟你討論關於我們長者的居住，因為我們看到長者居住，現在是90.44萬，年增是12.53%，換句話說，一年增加的部分是10萬，我們現在的作法大概都是以社區關懷活動參與為主，這個也很好，但是我們已經看到這個嚴重的議題，因為數字增加了，年增率是12.53%，孤老居住的部分，這是社會非常重要的一環，所以本席認為在緊急應變跟銜接長照，我們要怎麼樣用住宅為單位，建立主動的風險管理機制，因為目前的政策明顯是落後於整個人口結構的變化，它的變化非常大，臺灣的長者人口數會越來越多，我們要怎麼樣去應對？","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:11:08.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:11:20.124000+08:00","text":"對於已經突破90萬戶，且持續在成長的孤老住宅，我們是不是應該去研議要怎麼樣建構一個一致性的清冊？","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:11:20.625000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:11:40.223000+08:00","text":"就在於分級的風險管理機制，它包含了通報、巡訪，還有緊急應變的標準，我認為這一塊是現在我們立即要啟動的，因為老年化的人口在臺灣人口結構是持續在增加，請做說明。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-04-09T12:11:45.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:06.089000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這次內政部推的老宅延壽就已經結合了剛剛委員提到的這個問題，因為屋老人老問題是目前要面對的，所以我們在老宅延壽裡面，就針對這些比較孤老的老人，在裡面必須要做一些無障礙空間的改善，我們每一次開地方說明會都有邀請衛福部參與，把……","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:07.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:41.787000+08:00","text":"你所說的這個本席非常清楚，部長，請聽清楚本席的提問，現在我們做的硬體設備裡頭有加註要怎麼樣讓長者、孤老者能安全，這個本席都了解，本席所說的是人數一直在增加，已經達到90萬戶，而且每一年持續在增加，所以本席希望能夠針對通報、巡訪以及緊急應變，怎麼樣去跟長照做接軌，這一塊本席認為應該組一個專案，好好的來研討。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:41.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:43.469000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這應該是衛福部的業務……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:43.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:46.851000+08:00","text":"相關，因為你們也相關，不是只有衛福部，不要推。好。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:47.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:12:56.458000+08:00","text":"不是只有衛福部，衛福部有衛福部的工作，內政部也有內政部的工作，因為政府橫向的組織非常地重要，一定要好好去研議，好不好？好。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:12:58.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:02.961000+08:00","text":"這樣子才能夠串聯起來，讓長者有所依歸，好不好？好。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:03.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:08.844000+08:00","text":"好好去研議啦，大概一個月的時間，把你們研議的方向提供給本席，可以嗎？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:10.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:11.085000+08:00","text":"怎麼樣去串接。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:12.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:16.327000+08:00","text":"我們再去看衛福部那邊的計畫，我們會配合它一些相關的資料。","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:17.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:19.028000+08:00","text":"你們也必須啊，對不對？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:19.028000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:19.449000+08:00","text":"對，我們會配合……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:21.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:27.346000+08:00","text":"好，一個月的時間，把你們整合的方向給本席，好不好？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:27.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:27.828000+08:00","text":"我們繼續研討。好。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:27.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:27.869000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:28.369000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:34.654714+08:00","text":"下一位請賴瑞隆委員發言，賴瑞隆、賴瑞隆，賴瑞隆不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:13:34.954714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:13:41.811857+08:00","text":"登記發言委員除不在場者外，其餘均已發言完畢，詢答結束。","qual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