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因為這個全國的決賽大概有兩百四十幾對的需要安排賽程然後目前我們大概決賽的一個時間點總共如果按照這樣排的話會排到九天所以我們也是盡量避開就是平常上課的一個時間但是我們講的是接下來有四天是還是在平日啊"},{"start":186.223,"end":203.782,"text":"所以有全國的決賽時間我們後來是把它盡量協調在27號、28號禮拜六、禮拜天然後因為29號大概就開始各個學校它已經開始在休業室了所以比較不會影響到我們小朋友但我剛講的其實是家長要參與啦因為這樣等於家長沒有辦法參與啦那今年我就簡單問一下今年是沒有辦法調整了嗎"},{"start":208.947,"end":218.872,"text":"也跟委員很坦白的講因為目前我們匡列那個整個決賽的場地的部分所以是聽起來就是沒辦法調整那我問一下這個賽事是不是明年會繼續舉辦呢會嗎我們會跟教育部這邊再來協調"},{"start":227.423,"end":242.47,"text":"今年由我們這邊辦沒問題因為今年四個小學生的比賽通常都在我們全民署這邊來辦明年我們可能透過兩個部的平台我們這邊再來針對這個業務我希望是明年持續來舉辦因為這是基層運動一個很重要的項目還有剛剛那個社區運動發展計畫目前只有到11月底剛剛也謝謝部長承諾那明年可不可以繼續呢"},{"start":253.835,"end":281.241,"text":"社区运动俱乐部这一块目前来讲会这个我们还没办法动之对我是说明年但是我们规划上面可以先规划吧对不对我们先规划嘛好不好我们会提早规划好谢谢谢谢那接下来再请教一下部长就是我想这几天应该都有看到有关于那个台中棒球教练的这件事情就是有总共有非常多的孩子在很小的时候都受到侵害那我觉得这对孩子来说跟家长来说都是很大的伤害"},{"start":281.841,"end":309.882,"text":"那其實我從第一個會期就一直在講兒少工作證我們希望可以公告不適任的教練那我在國體法也提出了這樣子的修法但是呢過去都一直說沒有辦法沒有辦法全民公告因為這個可能有法治上面的問題也會影響到他的職業這些教練在執教等等有很多很多的理由但是我希望部長是不是可以重新再來審視之前的決議呢因為我想看到這樣子的一個新聞應該也非常痛心吧"},{"start":310.562,"end":329.333,"text":"所以我们是不是可以再重新来审视重新来国体法里面来讨论是不是可以怎样把公告不适任教练还有儿少工作证更积极的落实这件事情是部长可以来演绎的吗公共委员您报告感谢您对于我们这个学生的重视那我们绝对会来演绎"},{"start":329.813,"end":355.188,"text":"好那我大概是不是可以在一個月之後來追你們相關研議的進度呢好不好一個月好不好因為真的時間都很緊迫那還有一樣延伸這個問題就是我看到女足公會他們發了個聲明就是說他們的一些訓練上面其實是沒有一個非常好的一個科學訓練造成他們在賽前都有很嚴重的撕裂傷那這個部分是不是可以請運科中心就是說因為其實"},{"start":356.169,"end":379.648,"text":"运动的科学训练我相信部长一定知道要从小开始从小就开始了所以针对女足的运科训练是不是可以提供一个不管是运科从国训中心来讲是不是可以提供一个更积极的回应我们如何协助这些女足因为她们接下来还有赛事这是第一个但第二个是不是可以提供给我们一个现在小学生或是我们的青少儿儿少运动员来说"},{"start":380.228,"end":404.714,"text":"最多的運動從事人口是哪些那哪一些運動傷害是最多的我們可不可以針對這些做一個盤點提出相關的運科訓練因為這東西是提供給教練也提供給家長因為讓家長知道說哪樣的教練的訓練是不當訓練因為這個過去我也處理了相當多的不當訓練不管是籃球棒球也好很多家長是說因為教練跟他說"},{"start":406.034,"end":420.486,"text":"這些就是訓練啊那導致家長根本無法拯救小孩在第一線是不是可以這部分也一起來努力有 這部分也謝謝委員對於這一個學生的重視那我們絕對會來演繹那我們會請運革中心跟國訓中心這邊來積極的來好 我們會後約時間好不好好 謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:16.680000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:16.880000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:17.180000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:17.440000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:17.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:17.560000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:26.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:26.957000+08:00","text":"委員您好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:27.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:27.637000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長，辛苦了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:28.198000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:32.039000+08:00","text":"我想部長是為了捍衛部門不要違法嘛！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:32.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:36.040000+08:00","text":"所以才會說現在沒有這個預算，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:36.040000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:48.084000+08:00","text":"但是我覺得，剛剛很多國民黨委員講的時候，都一直說是卓榮泰院長卡關，真的是完全忘記自己是立法委員，忘了做自己該做的工作。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:48.664000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:28:54.206000+08:00","text":"所以我真的非常感謝，部長在這件事情上有守護我們的公務員，讓他們不要違法。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:28:55.086000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:05.075000+08:00","text":"再來，我想要和部長很快的先討論一個題目，其實我在上上禮拜吧！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:05.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:20.287000+08:00","text":"看到全民署有一個社區俱樂部實施計畫，我覺得這個計畫非常好，因為它可以協助學校、俱樂部有更多場地辦更多的社區聯賽，我認為立意良善。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:20.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:39.657000+08:00","text":"但是有一個比較大的問題，就是6月的時候才會完成補助審查，可是今年10月底又要完成這個計畫，等於是聯賽可能只能集中在暑假辦理，這樣子就有一點可惜，變成沒有辦法好好辦基層運動，所以大家希望有更長的時間。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:39.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:48.570000+08:00","text":"是不是有可能讓實施期限延長到11月底，這個是不是可行？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:49.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:58.738000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，謝謝委員對於社區俱樂部的計畫這麼重視，我們應該會延長兩週。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:58.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:59.478000+08:00","text":"到11月底啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:29:59.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:29:59.939000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:00.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:02.341000+08:00","text":"這個可行嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:02.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:03.362000+08:00","text":"因為大家……","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:04.660000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:05.661000+08:00","text":"全民署長說可以。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:06.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:06.962000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:07.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:13.968000+08:00","text":"大家辛苦一點，讓基層有更多時間可以執行，謝謝部長和署長。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:13.968000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:14.968000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:14.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:25.178000+08:00","text":"再來，還有一個小學生的足球賽，其實有非常多家長這兩年一直非常關心，希望可以復賽，今年非常感謝，我們也開始舉辦了。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:25.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:25.458000+08:00","text":"可是呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:25.718000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:36.503000+08:00","text":"大家原本期待所有比賽都辦在週末，讓家長也可以去看現場比賽，因為培養觀眾也是全民運動一個很重要的目標嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:36.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:36.803000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:38.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:44.145000+08:00","text":"可是這次的全國決賽卻有四天是放在平日，所以就有很多家長來和我們溝通這件事情。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:45.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:47.927000+08:00","text":"為什麼這個比賽沒有辦法辦在週末呢？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:48.107000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:49.367000+08:00","text":"是不是可以簡單回答一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:30:50.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:30:51.128000+08:00","text":"是否請全民運動署答覆？","quality":0.7},{"speake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33:29.288000+08:00","text":"所以是不是可以再重新審視，重新就國體法討論，怎麼把公告不適任教練和兒少工作證更積極的落實，這件事情部長可以研議嗎？","quality":0.604},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:31.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:35.912000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，感謝您對於學生的重視，我們絕對會研議。","quality":0.364},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:37.813000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:42.116000+08:00","text":"好，那我是不是可以在一個月之後追相關研議的進度呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:43.396000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:44.137000+08:00","text":"一個月，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:44.137000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:45.137000+08:00","text":"可以，沒問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:44.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:45.998000+08:00","text":"因為時間真的很緊迫。當然。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:47.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:33:59.126000+08:00","text":"還有，一樣延伸這個問題，就是我看到女足工會發了一個聲明，他們沒有非常好的科學訓練方式，造成他們賽前都有很嚴重的撕裂傷。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:33:59.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:01.708000+08:00","text":"這個部分是不是可以請運科中心協助？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:03.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:12.696000+08:00","text":"其實運動的科學訓練，我相信部長一定知道要從小開始，所以針對女足的運科訓練，不管是運科或國訓中心，是不是可以提供一個更積極的回應？","quality":0.492},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:12.696000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:14.167000+08:00","text":"我們如何協助這些女足？","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:14.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:15.638000+08:00","text":"因為他們接下來還有賽事，這是第一個。","quality":0.062},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:15.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:31.049000+08:00","text":"第二個，是不是可以提供我們資料，關於現在的小學生或是對兒少運動員來說，最多的運動從事人口是哪些？","quality":0.568},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:31.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:34.009000+08:00","text":"哪一些運動傷害是最多的？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:34.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:37.930000+08:00","text":"可不可以針對這些做盤點，提出相關的運科訓練？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:39.751000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:45.832000+08:00","text":"這東西是要提供給教練，也提供給家長，讓家長知道什麼樣的訓練是不當訓練。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:45.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:54.635000+08:00","text":"因為過去我也處理了相當多不當訓練，不管是籃球、棒球，很多家長說，因為教練跟他說這些就是訓練啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:55.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:34:58.598000+08:00","text":"導致家長根本無法拯救第一線的小孩。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:34:58.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:00.620000+08:00","text":"這部分是不是也可以一起努力？有。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:01.320000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:06.664000+08:00","text":"也謝謝委員對於學生的重視，我們絕對會研議，也會請運動中心和國訓中心積極檢討。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:06.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:08.246000+08:00","text":"好，我們會後約時間，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:08.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:08.486000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。謝謝。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:08.986000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:12.128857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的詢答，謝謝部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:12.428857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:19.857429+08:00","text":"我們對每一位委員都是一樣的，我沒有站起來，讓他們盡情發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:20.157429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:23.871714+08:00","text":"下一位請萬美玲委員發言，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:35:24.171714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:35:27.600286+08:00","text":"萬委員質詢後休息8分鐘，謝謝。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}