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當天"},{"start":240.424,"end":254.636,"text":"他有讚揚部長年輕有為放棄了千萬的代言費不過很可惜現在總預算卡在立法院所以運動部的預算是零沒有辦法對運動部未來的發展有一個很好的規劃那部長我請教一下總統說的是對的嗎還是他有誤會"},{"start":256.857,"end":277.967,"text":"跟委員您報告,那真的運動部的部分的話,我們是不能超支去年的體育...沒有,我就問這句話,就是說賴總統說運動部的預算是零,因為本席是把這個原話、原字直接拿上來,所以這句話是對的嗎?您的這個運動部現在預算是零嗎?我們就是不能超支去年體育署的預算。但有沒有預算?"},{"start":279.61,"end":295.471,"text":"那有預算就不是零了嘛所以部長其實可能要跟總統的有意或無意要跟他澄清一下不然其實這會引起運動界很大的嘩然那你看其實這個說法跟事實有很大的出入包括您剛剛所回答的就現在是有預算嘛"},{"start":296.011,"end":317.225,"text":"但是呢你不能超支嘛比如說你現在公務預算大概是82億左右可以用嘛那你的這個預罰基金大概也有80幾億可以用嘛也就是說加起來你可能還有165億在手上是可以用的所以我想這個部分可能要跟這個相關的人有提到一些誤會的地方或者是你必須要去再做一個說明好不好"},{"start":318.146,"end":346.094,"text":"那再來我們還是關心昨天田協宣布這個2026台灣田徑公開賽這個因為預算沒有通過所以他要取消我想今天在預算上面大家有提了很多第一個您剛剛自己也有提那個這個田協來申請的時候您是怎麼跟他回覆的去年的情況我們跟各個協會的輔導都是希望他申請今年的公務預算"},{"start":347.133,"end":365.01,"text":"那在現行的狀況下那當然我們希望比賽能夠繼續續辦所以我們積極輔導他們轉變成跟我們申請基金沒有問題啊如果他是他申請任何的預算部長第一個公務預算你現在還是有預算在手上可以用第二個我們運發基金也有預算在手上可以用第三個"},{"start":366.496,"end":385.803,"text":"第三個,我們現在通過的新興預算當中,今天大家也跟你講得很清楚,新興計劃裡面你的那個8億也都可以用,也就是說你不管用運發基金,不管用公務預算,或者新興通過的計劃都有嘛,所以呢,您剛剛在回覆也說,一直有跟鐵協溝通,一直有溝通,那是怎麼會溝通到他說要取消呢?"},{"start":386.738,"end":404.048,"text":"這部分我們等一下也會再積極輔導他希望能將...您今天從早上到現在都是說你要積極輔導他但我今天要問的問題是說你在溝通的當中怎麼會溝通到天蠍認為是沒有錢所以他停辦原因要告訴我一下是否請國際司跟委員報告是否可以 謝謝"},{"start":405.765,"end":434.836,"text":"報告委員 到昨天下午為止之前我們一直在跟田協 我們陳曼同仁都在輔導他怎麼樣能夠到齊市長啊 好 市長 謝謝喔你們真的不要再跳針了就一直講說輔導他 輔導他 輔導他那我現在請教一下 那個部長那現在田協有再來申請了嗎基金的部分他一直在申請中他送上來申請了嗎送上來了送來了嗎 那部長您不知道啊"},{"start":436.172,"end":457.874,"text":"您不知道啊您不知道他已經重新送來了對嗎我今天早上已經有回覆就是已經有送案到基金這一塊然後總預算是兩千多萬兩千零四十幾萬我想這樣子啊就是早上本席問了這個司長才知道說其實啊天蠍今天早上已經有在重新送案來了這一件事情呢司長所以他送了沒有"},{"start":459.049,"end":473.462,"text":"送了嘛 對嘛所以為什麼要做沒頭呢就他送來了我們現在要解決問題嘛就是說第一個呢一直在講你讓田協誤以為我們是因為沒有預算所以這樣子去取消了那但是事實上是今天他已經重新送來了"},{"start":473.942,"end":490.9,"text":"那预算呢我们用基金也好用现在现有的这个公务预算里面那就看部长您的智慧怎么去把这个预算来给他们才能有钱才能做辅导嘛所以呢这整个呢我不敢他说他是乌龙世界至少他是一个很大的一个误会你们也有心要做那他来申请也不是没有钱"},{"start":491.34,"end":515.493,"text":"三項預算你都可以來用第一個 公務預算還是有八十幾億可以在手上用第二個呢 我們新興計畫也有通過了我們這個台灣賽事的相關預算八億也可以用第三個 這個預發金也可以用所以我想部長可能要再去熟悉一下啦那在這個部分不要造成這麼大的誤會喔那我非常的相信因為部長您來自運動界而且一直都是我們國家之光"},{"start":516.013,"end":537.66,"text":"你一定為了不管是要栽培我們的選手或者是給選手好的環境好的支援你會努力來做但是在這件這個事情的誤會上面我真的真心希望第一個政治要跟運動跟文化跟教育去脫鉤第二個呢我們應該好好專心就是在我們這運動賽事上面那這樣子的誤會我希望下次不要再有了好嗎謝謝吳委員好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:06.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:07.964000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:08.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:08.984000+08:00","text":"有請李部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:08.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:09.364000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:16.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:18.798000+08:00","text":"委員您好。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:18.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:20.138000+08:00","text":"部長，請問您上任多少天了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:20.859000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:22.399000+08:00","text":"今天應該是第7個月。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:23.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:25.861000+08:00","text":"好，大概是212天上下。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:26.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:27.561000+08:00","text":"你現在對業務的熟悉度如何？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:27.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:29.262000+08:00","text":"已經上手了嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:29.262000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:40.567000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，這段時間我一直都有積極去了解各項業務，上手的定義我比較難以確保，但是我已經儘量去了解。好。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:41.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:41.807000+08:00","text":"其實我們覺得你很努力啦！","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:42.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:45.109000+08:00","text":"所以要對自己有點信心，大聲的回答我，上手了！好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:47.782000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:36:49.424000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員對我的肯定，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:36:50.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:02.003000+08:00","text":"其實我們昨天晚上就陸續聽到傳言，說鄭世忠次長請辭，當時以為是傳言或流言，但聽說今天早上您也是看新聞才知道的，是這樣嗎？是的。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:05.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:15.509000+08:00","text":"因為過去還是體育署的時候，體育署的署長曾經懸缺將近一年半左右的時間，鄭世忠次長，當時的署長，也算是救火隊，接下了署長一職，也表現的還不錯。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:15.789000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:34.961000+08:00","text":"直到運動部成立以後，您讓他擔任第一次長，也是運動部的發言人，可以說是你非常重要的左右手，現在突然請辭，為什麼你事前不知道？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:37.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:40.445000+08:00","text":"這部分我今天會去向鄭次長了解。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:41.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:42.407000+08:00","text":"對，就是很奇怪啊！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:43.027000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:45.529000+08:00","text":"這麼重要的partner，為什麼他沒有先跟你說一聲呢？","quality":0.72},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:45.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:46.030000+08:00","text":"什麼原因？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:48.749000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:50.650000+08:00","text":"我晚點會向委員回覆。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:51.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:53.711000+08:00","text":"至於是什麼原因，我會詢問鄭次長。","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:53.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:54.211000+08:00","text":"這是一個秘密？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:54.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:55.871000+08:00","text":"晚一點跟我回覆？沒有！","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:57.452000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:37:59.752000+08:00","text":"我還沒聯繫到鄭次長。對。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:37:59.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:02.313000+08:00","text":"我的意思是說，你還不知道為什麼突然請辭？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:02.693000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:02.973000+08:00","text":"不曉得原因？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:03.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:07.314000+08:00","text":"目前就是如同我剛剛所講，我是今天早上得知的。好。","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:07.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:10.135000+08:00","text":"部長，您會挽留他嗎？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:11.296000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:16.360000+08:00","text":"我會先看一下鄭次長本人的意願，然後看怎麼樣，我們再向委員回覆。好。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:17.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:26.490000+08:00","text":"我想其實人才很重要，任何一個部會、單位都是這樣，好的人才如果還有挽留的機會，部長應該挽留一下。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:27.150000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:29.713000+08:00","text":"還是已經有新的次長人選？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:30.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:34.938000+08:00","text":"這部分就如同我剛剛說的，我會向鄭次長了解後，向委員回覆。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:35.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:37.360000+08:00","text":"他是今天請假嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:37.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:38.642000+08:00","text":"就我目前得到的訊息……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:38.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:39.543000+08:00","text":"明天會上班嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:42.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:44.895000+08:00","text":"這個部分我可能要回去看一下我們的系統。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:45.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:46.315000+08:00","text":"他到底請多久的假？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:47.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:50.016000+08:00","text":"委員，我真的要看系統。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:50.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:50.336000+08:00","text":"都不知道？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:50.876000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:51.036000+08:00","text":"對，目前。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:51.876000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:38:53.576000+08:00","text":"部長，可能要掌握一下啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:38:53.736000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:00.117000+08:00","text":"因為他畢竟是第一次長，又是發言人，今天卻突然請假。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:00.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:07.979000+08:00","text":"其實今天召委所排的業務和他也是有關係的，他卻突然沒有來，現在你說要和他溝通，但你也不知道他請假到什麼時候。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:09.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:09.459000+08:00","text":"目前是請假兩天。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:10.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:10.679000+08:00","text":"請兩天？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:10.699000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:10.699000+08:00","text":"請兩天。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:12.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:12.580000+08:00","text":"請兩天假？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:12.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:15.001000+08:00","text":"好，希望他回來的時候，您能夠和他好好溝通。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:15.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:15.861000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:19.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:22.443000+08:00","text":"賴總統去年出席體育盛事宏道獎的頒獎典禮時，你在現場嗎？有的。好。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:22.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:38.015000+08:00","text":"當天他讚揚部長年輕有為，放棄千萬的代言費，不過很可惜現在總預算卡在立法院，所以運動部的預算是零，沒有辦法對運動部未來的發展做很好的規劃。","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:38.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:39.396000+08:00","text":"部長，我請教一下，總統說的是對的嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:39.396000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:39.636000+08:00","text":"還是他誤會了？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:43.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:48.240000+08:00","text":"真的，運動部的部分，我們是不能超支去年的體育……沒有！","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:48.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:54.243000+08:00","text":"我就問這句話，賴總統說運動部的預算是零，因為本席是直接轉述原話、原字。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:56.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:39:57.364000+08:00","text":"這句話是對的嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:39:58.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:00.025000+08:00","text":"運動部現在的預算是零嗎？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:00.025000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:02.106000+08:00","text":"我們不能超支去年體育署的預算。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:02.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:02.947000+08:00","text":"但有沒有預算？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:02.947000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:04.750000+08:00","text":"有預算可以用。","quality":0},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:04.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:05.812000+08:00","text":"有預算就不是零了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:06.072000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:13.101000+08:00","text":"所以部長可能要對總統有意或無意的言論澄清一下，不然會引起運動界很大的譁然。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:14.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:23.012000+08:00","text":"其實這個說法和事實有很大的出入，包括您剛剛所回答的，現在是有預算，但是你們不能超支嘛！","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:23.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:30.177000+08:00","text":"比如你們現在公務預算大概是82億元左右，這是手上可以用的，運發基金大概也有八十幾億元可以用嘛！","quality":0.738},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:30.538000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:33.259000+08:00","text":"也就是你們手上加起來可能還有165億元，這是可以用的。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:33.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:42.205000+08:00","text":"所以我想這個部分可能要向相關的人說明，針對他提到的，一些有誤會的地方，你必須再去做說明，好不好？","quality":0.791},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:43.306000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:52.649000+08:00","text":"再來，我們還是關心昨天田協宣布的，2026臺灣田徑公開賽因為預算沒有通過，所以他們要取消。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:40:53.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:40:57.910000+08:00","text":"我想，今天在預算方面大家提了很多問題，第一個，剛剛您自己也有提嘛！","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:00.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:03.812000+08:00","text":"田協來申請的時候，您是怎麼回覆他們的？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:05.092000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:05.452000+08:00","text":"去年的時候？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:05.452000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:07.053000+08:00","text":"對，他們提出申請時，那時候怎麼回覆他們？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:07.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:11.074000+08:00","text":"我們和各個協會的輔導，都是希望他們申請今年的公務預算。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:12.654000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:19.941000+08:00","text":"在現行的狀況下，我們希望比賽能夠繼續辦理，所以我們積極輔導他們轉向申請基金的部分。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:20.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:20.561000+08:00","text":"沒有問題啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:20.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:37.998000+08:00","text":"不管他們申請任何預算，部長，第一個，如果是公務預算，你們手上現在還是有預算可以用；第二個，運發基金也有預算可以用；第三個，我們現在通過的新興計畫預算，今天大家也和你講得很清楚，新興計劃的部分，你們那8億元也可以用。","quality":0.819},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:38.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:43.120000+08:00","text":"也就是你們不管是要用運發基金、公務預算，或者是剛通過的新興計劃，都有嘛！","quality":0.781},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:43.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:43.940000+08:00","text":"所以呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:44.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:50.783000+08:00","text":"您剛剛回覆時也說一直有和田協溝通，怎麼會溝通到他們說要取消呢？","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:51.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:41:55.320000+08:00","text":"這部分我們等一下也會再積極輔導他們，希望能將……","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:41:55.320000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:04.845000+08:00","text":"您今天從早上到現在都是說要積極輔導他們，但我今天問的問題是，你們在溝通時，怎麼會溝通到田協認為沒有錢，所以他們要停辦，請告訴我原因。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:06.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:09.048000+08:00","text":"是否請國際司向委員報告？可以。謝謝。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"張司長進旺","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:10.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:17.648000+08:00","text":"報告委員，到昨天下午為止，我們的承辦同仁一直都在輔導田協，怎麼樣能夠到……","quality":0.781},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:19.528000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:19.528000+08:00","text":"司長，謝謝喔！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:20.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:23.390000+08:00","text":"你們真的不要再跳針了，只會一直講輔導他、輔導他、輔導他。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:23.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:32.733000+08:00","text":"我現在請教一下部長，田協有再來申請嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:32.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:34.534000+08:00","text":"基金的部分，他們一直在申請中？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:35.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:37.135000+08:00","text":"他們送來申請了嗎？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:37.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:37.495000+08:00","text":"送上來了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:38.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:38.555000+08:00","text":"送來了嘛！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:39.056000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:39.816000+08:00","text":"但部長您不知道啊！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:41.172000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:44.395000+08:00","text":"您不知道他們已經重新送來了，對嗎？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:44.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:52.844000+08:00","text":"我今天早上已經回覆，就是已經有送案到基金這一塊，總預算是兩千零四十幾萬元。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:52.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:53.845000+08:00","text":"我想這樣子啦！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:42:54.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:42:59.030000+08:00","text":"早上本席問了司長才知道，其實田協今天早上已經再重新送案。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:01.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:02.854000+08:00","text":"司長，所以他們送了沒有？送了。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:04.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:04.750000+08:00","text":"送了嘛！對嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:05.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:06.391000+08:00","text":"所以為什麼要皺眉頭呢？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:06.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:07.272000+08:00","text":"他們送來了。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:07.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:08.673000+08:00","text":"我們今天要解決問題嘛！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:09.494000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:18.442000+08:00","text":"第一個，大家一直在講的是，你們讓田協誤以為沒有預算，所以取消了，但是事實上今天他們已經重新送來了。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:18.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:19.463000+08:00","text":"那預算呢？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:19.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:28.272000+08:00","text":"我們用基金也好，用現有的公務預算也好，就看部長您的智慧，怎麼把這個預算給他們，有錢才能做輔導嘛！","quality":0.628},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:28.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:32.596000+08:00","text":"所以這整件事，我不敢說它是烏龍事件，至少它是一個很大的誤會。","quality":0.519},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:33.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:38.241000+08:00","text":"你們有心要做，他們有來申請，你們也不是沒有錢，這三項預算你們都可以用。","quality":0.645},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:38.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:49.027000+08:00","text":"第一個，你們手上還是有八十幾億元的公務預算可以用；第二個，新興計劃也通過了，臺灣賽事的相關預算有8億元可以用；第三個，運發基金也可以用。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:49.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:43:54.450000+08:00","text":"所以，我想部長可能要再去熟悉一下這個部分，不要造成這麼大的誤會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"萬委員美玲","start":"2026-04-09T12:43:55.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:22.620000+08:00","text":"我非常相信，因為部長您來自運動界，而且一直都是我們的國家之光，不管是栽培選手，或者是給選手好的環境、好的資源，你都會努力去做，但是就這件事情產生的誤會，我真的真心希望，第一個，政治要和運動、文化、教育脫鉤；第二個我們應該好好專心在運動賽事上面，這樣的誤會，我希望下次不要再有了，好嗎？","quality":0.928},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:22.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:22.660000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:23.160000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:25.160000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的詢答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:25.460000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:26.602857+08:00","text":"休息8分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:26.902857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:28.045714+08:00","text":"休息（12時44分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:28.345714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:30.060000+08:00","text":"繼續開會（12時52分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（葉委員元之代）","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:30.360000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:32.074286+08:00","text":"現在繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（葉委員元之代）","start":"2026-04-09T12:44:32.374286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:44:35.231429+08:00","text":"請羅廷瑋委員進行詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}