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北海道 東京 大阪 名古屋 還有福岡這五個球場我都已經考察過 各有特色因為有時候他們這個比賽到九月十月或者是三月的時候 他們天氣也很冷所以各地方有各地方的需求韓國有幾座巨蛋你知道嗎"},{"start":309.379,"end":337.001,"text":"韓國十個球場只有一個天池那個高池天空我也去炒烤肉所以日本所有的球場我都去看過好像還有廣島的廣島球場沒去因為韓國職棒十個球隊我也去看了六個球場高雄做一個南台灣運動發展特別是棒球發展的重鎮我覺得結合AI或者科技的半導體"},{"start":338.852,"end":362.083,"text":"應該要蓋一個smart dome自彈不是巨彈smart dome舉個例子韓國唯一的大型室內比賽場地是培正英雄隊主場它的最高是兩萬五千觀眾容量不見得一定要大但是因為南台灣熱"},{"start":363.649,"end":374.961,"text":"天氣熱所以這個私內球場我希望從運動部的角度能夠去宏觀調控不要說每個縣市都有一個巨蛋每個縣市都不見得有這個需求"},{"start":376.647,"end":394.191,"text":"如果居然蓋出來花那麼多錢 結果變成一個蚊子巨蛋 那也不是我們樂見你要從需求強度跟它的虛位 比方說我們北高雄在岡山橋頭有機會我邀請你看它是一個三級棒球的運動重鎮 從青少棒到台鋼雄鷹的訓練基地也在那個地方"},{"start":399.952,"end":425.512,"text":"那地方又有捷運又有高速公路所以易達性非常高所以大家都是台塘的土地如果可以輔導或者運動部能夠協助因為台塘的土地基本上土地的成本就比較低所以這種情況之下交通方便然後又有直棒又有三級棒球作為支撐我認為結合橋頭科學園區的半導體AI"},{"start":430.285,"end":454.555,"text":"我們可以朝向做一個 蓋一個台灣或者全球第一顆的子彈smart dome這個我想請教一下部長還是這個是仲規師 師長師長你要不要講一下跟委員您報告那這個部分的話應該我們會後續來這個思考是否有可行的可能性"},{"start":456.286,"end":466.402,"text":"不是一定要孵蛋 蛋孵出來要有它的特色要結合地方的民情 地方的條件所以不要每次都喊巨蛋"},{"start":468.593,"end":494.22,"text":"所以我们桥头科学园区是一个AI中正所以我改天再邀请你去看一下那个区位多棒如果能够有更多的产业的扶持让球团愿意在那边盖一个这个不用那么多人大概两万五三万左右的自弹smart dome那个地方又是在桥头在台南市跟高雄市的交界点"},{"start":495.775,"end":512.354,"text":"兩個直轄市的球迷都可以來看所以我最主要的用意是說運動部要做一個宏觀調控把每一個縣市的狀況做一個盤點不是每一個縣市都適合去蓋一個巨蛋以上 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Dome，「智蛋」不是「巨蛋」。","quality":0.758},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:19:43.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:20:16.908000+08:00","text":"舉一個例子，韓國唯一的大型室內比賽場地，是培證英雄隊的主場，最高是2萬5,000個觀眾容量，不見得一定要大，但是因為南臺灣天氣熱，所以這個室內球場我希望從運動部的角度能夠去宏觀調控，不要說每個縣市都有一個巨蛋，因為每個縣市不見得有這個需求，如果巨蛋蓋出來，花那麼多錢，結果變成一個蚊子巨蛋，那也不是我們樂見。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:20:16.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:20:39.836000+08:00","text":"你要從需求強度跟它的區位，比方說我們北高雄在岡山、橋頭，有機會我會邀請你去看，它是一個三級棒球的運動重鎮，從少棒、青少棒，甚至台鋼雄鷹的訓練基地也在那個地方，那個地方又有捷運，又有高速公路，所以易達性非常高。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:20:41.057000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:21:21.612000+08:00","text":"而且它是台糖的土地，如果可以輔導或者運動部能夠協助，因為台糖的土地基本上土地的成本就比較低，所以這種情況之下，交通方便，然後又有職棒，又有三級棒球作為支撐，我認為結合橋頭科學園區的半導體、AI，我們可以朝向蓋一個臺灣或者全球第一顆的智蛋「Smart Dome」，這個我想請教一下部長或是綜規司司長，司長，你要不要講一下？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:21:23.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:21:29.535000+08:00","text":"這個部分的話，我們後續應該會來思考是否有可行的可能性。","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:21:31.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:21:41.382000+08:00","text":"不是一定要孵蛋，蛋孵出來要有它的特色，要結合地方的民情、地方的條件，所以不要每次都喊巨蛋。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:21:44.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:21:50.955000+08:00","text":"我們橋頭科學園區是一個AI重鎮，我改天再邀請你去看一下，那個區位多棒啊！","quality":0.606},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:21:51.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:22:13.338000+08:00","text":"如果能夠有更多產業的扶持，讓球團願意在那邊蓋一個，不用那麼多人，大概兩萬五、3萬左右的智蛋「Smart Dome」，那個地方又是在橋頭，在臺南市跟高雄市的交界點，兩個直轄市的球迷都可以來看。","quality":0.747},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-09T13:22:15.320000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:22:27.354000+08:00","text":"我最主要的用意是說，運動部要做一個宏觀調控，把每一個縣市的狀況做一些盤點，不是每一個縣市都適合去蓋巨蛋，好，以上，謝謝。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:22:27.854000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:22:28.996857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T13:22:29.296857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:22:31.296857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的詢答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T13:22:31.596857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:22:34.168286+08:00","text":"下一位請葉元之委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}