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還是十段那我跟您報告一下我們台東有出現過的這個費用有一天到一萬二的還有半天一萬的"},{"start":628.834,"end":651.763,"text":"都有所以也有社團跟我抱怨過他們想要租借的場地但是遇到這樣子的問題那當然很多學校是不願意出傑的所以我覺得你們政策的推動跟實務上在執行其實是有落差那我現在不是憑空在這裡生出來確實有社團跟我做這樣的反應所以他們才會一直想要再蓋籃球場啊"},{"start":654.224,"end":679.25,"text":"那即便是有那個就是像這個風雨籃球場對風雨籃球場但因為有些如果不是旁邊有遮蔽其實風很大吹一下也是大家都凌晨落湯雞那這個部分我提供給部長參考或許下次我們可以一起到台東去考察一下那我想這個盤點完空間之後最後人才要來盤點"},{"start":680.25,"end":692.976,"text":"因為如果在各個鄉鎮具備有證照的運動指導員向民眾提供教學與協助相信可以鼓勵更多的民眾可以做正確安全的運動那當然這些指導員運動部編列預算計畫"},{"start":698.619,"end":721.158,"text":"讓跟這個地方政府可以共同來補助那就算是終點費的補助其實也就是多一點點資源來支持這些退役的這個運動選手回到故鄉而不是說只有留在外地留在都會區的這個健身房或者到學校當教練這兩種再不然就淪落到工地去蓋房子都有的好所以目前運動部"},{"start":724.32,"end":740.354,"text":"這個全民運動署有補助企業聘用運動指導員的計畫我希望類似的補助呢不要只是補助企業也要補助資源比較少的縣市來做所以這個部分是不是能夠請部長和你交辦同仁"},{"start":740.854,"end":770.01,"text":"然后加以研究用比较具体的方案跟经费让我们台东县让其他偏乡可以类似就是说类似迫切需要推广运动的这些非都会区能够有空间有人才一起来做运动可以吗委员谢谢您对于运动的重视那这一点上面我们会与全民运动署来会后来跟委员您了解需求是什么好那你们大概会诊一下我们开始做个研究那谢谢部长好谢谢谢谢委员"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:48:55.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:48:57.655000+08:00","text":"主席，麻煩請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T13:48:57.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:05.038000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:05.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:05.358000+08:00","text":"委員您好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:06.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:07.799000+08:00","text":"部長好，你後面站了一個臺東人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:09.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:09.660000+08:00","text":"sorry。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:12.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:13.182000+08:00","text":"沒有sorry，他很棒啊！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:15.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:49:47.343000+08:00","text":"在運動政策有鐵三角，那就是競技運動、運動產業和全民運動，長期以來，我們臺灣的運動資源大部分都過度集中在競技運動，好像一般就是奪牌、贏球就會得到所有的關注，很多問題也都可以解決，相對地，對於全民運動這一塊的發展，就比較相對輕忽了。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:49:48.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:06.895000+08:00","text":"其實必須要有足夠的運動人口，才會接下來有健康的運動文化，也才能培養更多、更厲害的選手去參與競技，然後培養出更多的消費人口，來支撐整個運動產業的發展。","quality":0.618},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:50:08.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:17.783000+08:00","text":"我想全民運動更是為這個國家減少我們健保支出的一個最大的利器，部長同意這樣的概念嗎？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:50:19.304000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:32.719000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先感謝你對於我們全民運動跟競技運動的重視，我非常認同剛剛委員您講的，我們希望更多人來參與運動，並不是把所有人都培養成運動員，而是希望大家來參與運動，然後保持身體的健康。是。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:50:34.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:48.331000+08:00","text":"所以運動部成立以後，增設全民運動署，希望更多的人力和經費來推廣運動，本席是非常肯定跟支持，也樂見李洋部長今天所提出的說明。","quality":0.679},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:50:49.091000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:56.037000+08:00","text":"不過，現在問題來了，運動部推廣全民運動的措施，有沒有考慮到城鄉差距？","quality":0.567},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:50:56.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:50:59.999000+08:00","text":"有沒有注意到東部跟西部在資源上的差別？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:51:01.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:51:02.923000+08:00","text":"這個是本席很關心的事情。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:51:04.365000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:52:01.616000+08:00","text":"在這邊我想先跟部長分享的就是，在我的故鄉臺東縣，我們在這裡孕育出全國最優質和最多的棒球選手，但是我們來看一下這個統計數據，在2011年國健署有調查臺東18到64歲的成人，肥胖率高達48.3%，是全國之冠，看到這個，很難相信我們臺東竟然拿到冠軍，被稱為胖子縣，即便臺東縣政府很努力推動健康體重管理的計畫超過10年，我們臺東縣的肥胖人口比例，截至2024年，根據統計報告，跟全國22個縣市比較起來，我們還是排在前五名。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:52:04.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:52:15.773000+08:00","text":"另外，我們再看一下，根據去年的運動現況調查，臺東縣的運動人口比例是全國倒數第三名，落後全國平均值83.3%將近6個百分點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:52:15.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:52:16.473000+08:00","text":"我想要跟部長分享這樣的一個數據。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:52:16.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:52:35.921000+08:00","text":"為什麼我們培養出全國最多優秀棒球國手的臺東縣，一般民眾的運動比例、健康情形，比較起來相對地是非常不理想的？","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:52:36.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:52:37.484000+08:00","text":"部長，你有沒有想過這個問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:52:39.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:07.172000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，首先，我個人認為，在我們整體的運動文化上面，我們還是希望國人從學童的時候就能積極來參與體育運動，有這樣的做法，這一點上面，我們還是希望說，就如同委員您重視東部這一塊，那我們也希望在推動規律運動這部分，可以儘量縮減城鄉差距。是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:10.013000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:45.430000+08:00","text":"當然運動的習慣從小開始培養是好的，但是很多長大成年的，甚至邁入老年的這些民眾，其實也非常想要運動，只是卡在我們臺東不用到夏天，4月之後，5月開始，天氣真的已經非常熱了，甚至大武還會吹焚風，加上有時候吹颱風，大大小小的風災，大的風災我們就不講了，但是小颱風經過的時候，下雨的機率也是很高。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:52.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:55.557000+08:00","text":"過去體育署補助的國民運動中心全國有幾個？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:55.557000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:56.977000+08:00","text":"來，旁邊幫忙一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:56.977000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:58.397000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，30座。好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:58.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:58.777000+08:00","text":"那臺東有幾個？沒有。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:58.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:53:58.998000+08:00","text":"運動中心的話，是沒有。對。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:53:59.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:54:37.202000+08:00","text":"臺東其實運動中心一個都沒有，那後來又有推出一個規模比較小的全民運動館，全國就補助了20個，臺東就是只有一個，預計今年會完工，但很顯然，我們如果單純從場館的思維來看，雖然我們人口比較少，但是不要忘了，我們幅員很遼闊，部長，知不知道臺東由北到南全長幾公里？","quality":0.768},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:54:39.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:54:40.641000+08:00","text":"委員，我確實不清楚。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:54:41.262000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:54:42.863000+08:00","text":"沒關係。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:54:42.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:55:52.169000+08:00","text":"其實總共有一百七十幾公里，將近180公里，是很狹長的，而且我們從全民運動的精神出發，就算不是住在市區的民眾，在最北端的長濱的民眾，一直到南迴，南迴好幾個鄉也都很遠，甚至不要忘了臺東還有離島，還有蘭嶼跟綠島，我想，除了市區以外的民眾，大家應該要有運動的權益，我有注意到全民運動中心推動社區運動俱樂部的計畫，目前總共有收到大概90個申請案件，我們去看一下這90個申請案件，其中比較多的都是辦理一次性的推廣活動或競賽，其中只有兩件是學校配合校園開放政策而增購器材的申請案，也就是說，這個跟空間建置是比較相關，但是案件非常少。","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:55:54.270000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:55:58.452000+08:00","text":"部長，你知道這兩案是位於哪些縣市？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:03.925000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:08.949000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，目前還在申請當中，這兩案確實我們……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:08.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:11.590000+08:00","text":"你們不清楚在哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:11.991000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:12.431000+08:00","text":"旁邊幫忙一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"房署長瑞文","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:12.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:23.179000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告一下，因為我們現在這個社區運動俱樂部的實施計畫在上個月26日才剛公告，目前會受理申請到4月30日。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:24.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:26.301000+08:00","text":"我們掌握到的消息是目前有送了兩案。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"房署長瑞文","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:30.075000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:33.720000+08:00","text":"因為是透過申請平台來申請……","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:33.720000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:34.961500+08:00","text":"好，你們回頭再去瞭解一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"房署長瑞文","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:34.961500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T13:56:36.203000+08:00","text":"會後我這邊提供這兩個學校的名單。","quality":0.067},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:56:36.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:57:36.438000+08:00","text":"我初步提供這些數據給你們參考，就是說這個計畫的推廣看起來不是很充足，你們可以再去檢視一下，因為本席是想要建議，我們在各地中小學，除了操場以外，也都會有一些小型的體育館，或者是體育教室，各個縣、各個鄉鎮有時候也會有自己的簡易體育館或風雨球場，運動部全民運動署，應該要請你們來充分盤點這些運動空間，針對不足的地方，比如說，設施老舊，設備需要添購，我要拜託你們，主動給予支持，並且要給予非都會區的鄉鎮更多的支持，才可以平衡這些城鄉差距，本席是要做這樣子的要求。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:57:37.018000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:57:56.208000+08:00","text":"那當然盤點工作絕對是大工程，所以我剛剛有列出數據，不管是我們臺東的全長、分布，還有剛剛提供的這些，都是讓部長了解一下，就是說我們是不是可以優先從非都會區來進行？","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:57:56.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:00.410000+08:00","text":"那我們臺東就是一個非常需要優先來處理的一個區域。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:02.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:07.558000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，謝謝你重視臺東的發展，我們會努力來處理。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:08.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:33.919000+08:00","text":"我剛剛也點了很多，就是學校操場外的這些小型的風雨教室、體育館、體育教室等等，我們現在還遇到一個問題，我舉個例子，部長，你知道，比如說，籃球的社團要去跟學校租用場地打籃球，你知道多少錢嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:33.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:37.762000+08:00","text":"你知道一天多少錢嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:37.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:39.263000+08:00","text":"每一個學校應該是不太一樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:39.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:50.192000+08:00","text":"那你覺得大概多少錢合理，讓社團可以支應，有能力可以租這個場地，這個費用比較合理是要落在哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:50.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:54.296000+08:00","text":"如果固定一個月，每個禮拜六、日打個籃球。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:56.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:58:59.488000+08:00","text":"單次300到500之間。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:58:59.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:59:02.232000+08:00","text":"一個人嗎？還是……時段。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:59:03.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:59:35.743000+08:00","text":"那我跟您報告一下，我們臺東有出現過的費用，有一天到一萬二的，還有半天一萬的，所以也有社團跟我抱怨過，他們想要租借場地，但是遇到這樣子的問題，那當然很多學校是不願意出借的，所以我覺得你們政策的推動跟實務上執行，其實是有落差，我現在不是憑空在這裡生出來這些話，確實有社團跟我做這樣的反映，所以他們才會一直想要再蓋籃球場啊。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:59:39.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:59:53.248000+08:00","text":"即便是有風雨籃球場，但因為有些如果不是旁邊有遮蔽，其實風很大，吹一下，也是大家都淋成落湯雞。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T13:59:53.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T13:59:58.869000+08:00","text":"這個部分我提供給部長參考，或許下次我們可以一起到臺東去考察一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T14:00:01.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T14:00:42.856000+08:00","text":"盤點完空間之後，最後要來盤點人才，因為如果在各個鄉鎮，具備有證照的運動指導員向民眾提供教學與協助，相信可以鼓勵更多的民眾做正確安全的運動，當然這些指導員若有運動部編列預算計畫，跟地方政府共同來補助，就算是鐘點費的補助，其實也就是多一點點資源來支持這些退役的運動選手回到故鄉，而不是說只有留在外地、留在都會區的健身房，或者是到學校當教練，再不然就淪落到工地去蓋房子。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T14:00:44.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T14:00:58.669000+08:00","text":"目前運動部全民運動署有補助企業聘用運動指導員的計畫，我希望類似的補助不要只是補助企業，也要補助資源比較少的縣市來做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:00.771000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:18.141000+08:00","text":"所以這個部分是不是能夠請部長你交辦同仁，然後加以研究，用比較具體的方案跟經費，讓我們臺東縣，也讓其他的偏鄉，以及類似的迫切需要推廣運動的非都會區，能夠有空間、有人才一起來做運動，可以嗎？","quality":0.679},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:19.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:27.606000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，謝謝您對於運動的重視，那這一點上面我們會與全民運動署在會後來跟委員您瞭解需求是什麼。","quality":0.455},{"speaker":"陳委員瑩","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:28.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:32.089000+08:00","text":"好，那你們大概彙整一下，我們可以做個研究，謝謝部長。謝謝。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:32.589000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:33.731857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:34.031857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:37.746143+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的詢答，謝謝部長，請坐。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:38.046143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:40.046143+08:00","text":"下一位請盧縣一。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:40.346143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:42.917571+08:00","text":"盧縣一、盧縣一不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:43.217571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:44.360429+08:00","text":"請林楚茵。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:44.660429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:47.231857+08:00","text":"林楚茵、林楚茵不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:47.531857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:48.674714+08:00","text":"請徐欣瑩。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:48.974714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:51.546143+08:00","text":"徐欣瑩、徐欣瑩不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:51.846143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:52.989000+08:00","text":"請蔡易餘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:53.289000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:55.860429+08:00","text":"蔡易餘、蔡易餘不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:56.160429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:01:57.303286+08:00","text":"請洪孟楷。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:01:57.603286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:00.174714+08:00","text":"洪孟楷、洪孟楷不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:00.474714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:01.617571+08:00","text":"請洪毓祥。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:01.917571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:04.489000+08:00","text":"洪毓祥、洪毓祥不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:04.789000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:05.789000+08:00","text":"請黃捷。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:06.089000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:08.089000+08:00","text":"黃捷、黃捷不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:08.389000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:09.531857+08:00","text":"請鄭正鈐。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:09.831857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:12.403286+08:00","text":"鄭正鈐、鄭正鈐不在場。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:12.703286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T14:02:13.846143+08:00","text":"請楊瓊瓔。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T14:02:1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