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謝謝委員謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:28.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:29.321000+08:00","text":"主席謝謝，麻煩請次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:29.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:29.461000+08:00","text":"麻煩馮次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:29.461000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:36.186000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:36.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:36.186000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:37.166000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:48.790000+08:00","text":"次長，本席很欣慰，也感謝召委排案，看到行政院之前針對刑法第八十條及第八十三條做草案的修正跟公告，也出院會。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:20:49.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:20:58.554000+08:00","text":"我記得2024年5月27號，一樣的位置，一樣的委員會，本席就在這邊，當時的徐次長，本席就針對刑法第八十條修法進行討論，當時也有媒體報導。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:02.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:43.553000+08:00","text":"本席在今年4月更是率先提出刑法第八十條及第八十三條的修法，最重要的就是我們看到未成年性侵案件在過去確實層出不窮，而很大的關鍵是因為追訴期的起算，造成有些未成年性侵的被害者，等到他真的理解的時候，他想要提出來，但已經過了追訴期，當時本席也把相關的數據資料都調出來，現在我們共同面對，行政院的版本是希望讓未成年性侵的追訴期從成年之後開始起算，20歲對不對？","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:43.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:43.793000+08:00","text":"請用麥克風好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:43.873000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:43.933000+08:00","text":"麥克風打開。","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:47.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:51.289000+08:00","text":"我們追訴權的部分是20歲以前不計入。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:51.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:54.690000+08:00","text":"本席跟很多委員的版本也類似，大同小異，但是今天……","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:54.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:57.271000+08:00","text":"年齡上有的用成年，成年應該是18，有的是20。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:21:58.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:21:59.312000+08:00","text":"成年是18或是20嘛！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:22:00.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:22:02.592000+08:00","text":"對，其實我們現在是用20歲，保障會更周全。","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:22:02.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:22:28.605000+08:00","text":"20就是多兩年的保障，基本上是這樣子，本席今天有看到，在提案說明的時候也聽到王育敏委員及某些委員的版本更是認為是不是能夠放寬到更長的時間，我想也就教現在法務部的態度，因為本席的版本是成年之後，但是本席聽到覺得也不是沒有道理，為什麼這樣講？","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:22:30.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:23:08.704000+08:00","text":"我們已經調出很多資料，因為未成年性侵有可能是權勢性侵、熟人或是他的照顧者性侵，某種程度上他對於自己要提出這樣的控訴，相對來講，他要承擔的壓力更多，所以之前的統計數據，未成年男性被性侵平均是25.9年才可以提出，女性23.1年，不管25.9年或23.1年都是一個數字，但重點在於我們能不能在這次修法的時候含括更廣的範圍，您怎麼看？","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:23:08.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:24:07.217000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，其實追訴權的時效是整體法律上的概念，所以基本上來講，它是整體在規劃的，但是我們這一次就如同委員對於未成年的保護，其實您有多次提出這樣的部分，事實上，這個部分也是本部高度關注的，所以我們著重的是在於他未成年的狀態，他的心智上確實有別於一般人的情況，所以我們希望把時間拉到20歲以前不計入，但20歲以後，就會回復到我們原來追訴權的概念，還是必須在追訴權的設計上要兼顧到法律的安定性，也要避免證據將來在蒐證上不能隔太久，其實也會造成將來辦案等各方面的困難，所以我們還是把20歲以前……","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:24:07.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:24:17.980000+08:00","text":"所以這個部分就跟外界說明清楚，因為今天我們委員提案說明的時候也有提到民間團體的意見，既然如此，我們也在修法的過程裡面把它釐清，這也是本席給您說明的機會。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:24:17.980000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T11:24:20.341000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:24:20.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:24:50.265000+08:00","text":"但次長你剛剛提到一個更重點，也是本席所關注的，就是我們不只是把時間延長以外，您剛剛提到一個重點，因為未成年被性侵，時間相對來講，如果他真的勇於發聲的時候可能已經過了一段時間了，蒐集的證據及還原當時的現場，甚至要真的能夠把犯罪者羅織入罪，這都需要我們更謹慎的過程。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:24:50.645000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:25:33.955000+08:00","text":"也因此我們想在這次修法以外，有沒有針對未成年如果被性侵的話，能夠增加更專業、更隱密或是更有效的支持，讓他能夠真的把這個事情說明清楚、讓他能夠去理解，就是過去也許小時候他不一定知道這個叫做性侵，但長大之後、懂事之後或是經濟自主之後，他願意站出來揭發，但是在這個過程裡面變成他需要有更隱密、有專人的窗口、專業的窗口，能夠讓他去做進一步的溝通或是了解，這個部分能不能有一個配套措施？","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:25:34.556000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:26:05.235000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，您提到的部分，就是有關於兒少的保護，事實上各部會都會來做，法務部這邊針對於這類型的辦案案件，其實我們有專組的檢察官，針對於相關怎麼偵辦這類案件上，像是有一些溫馨談話室等各方面，我們會制定一個流程，針對委員提到的部分，我們回去也會再宣導、再去做更加溫暖……","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-04-13T11:26:05.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:26:06.136000+08:00","text":"已經制定了嗎？還是……","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-04-13T11:26:06.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T11:26:06.716000+08:00","text":"本來就有。","quality":1},{"speake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