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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:01:47.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:01:48.200000+08:00","text":"我想先請經濟部賴次長。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:01:48.200000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T12:01:58.424000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:01:58.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:01:58.424000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:01:59.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:02:17.340000+08:00","text":"我今天想要先問一下經濟部，上禮拜六我是陪我的助理──要參選新北市議員的何元楷掃街，結果到市場就被雜貨舖的商家、攤販拉走陳情了很久，你猜他要陳情什麼？","quality":0.899},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:02:17.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:02:17.681000+08:00","text":"次長猜猜看。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:02:17.681000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T12:02:18.681000+08:00","text":"不清楚。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:02:17.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:02:37.153000+08:00","text":"塑膠袋，他說塑膠袋、環保袋都缺貨，然後帶我看了他們的貨架，他指了一個貨架，上面裝的都是玩具，他說貨架本來裝的是塑膠袋，就是環保袋，因為沒有了，他只好放玩具上去。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:02:38.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:02:42.294000+08:00","text":"客人都跟他抱怨說怎麼會買不到，他說他沒有辦法解釋啊！","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:02:43.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:03:13.761000+08:00","text":"好，問題來了，上個禮拜我也質詢過經濟部，經濟部說會解決，我也相信經濟部會解決，結果我自己實際在市場上就看到了，有商家來跟我陳情，我不知道經濟部到底發生什麼事情，經濟部說會解決，但實際上到市場的商家、攤販看，他們下游端卻沒有看到所謂的塑膠袋之亂獲得疏解，仍然缺塑膠袋。","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:03:14.582000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:03:16.962000+08:00","text":"次長，你覺得這中間是什麼環節出問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:03:17.623000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:03:18.343000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的指導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:03:18.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:03:56.922000+08:00","text":"經濟部現在所做的是上游端的原物料，包括生產端持續的供料、擴大生產，至於委員掃街時碰到的這些問題，事實上我們部長除了跟商圈還有市場的一些代表座談之外，我們商發署每天也會透過群組，還有電話詢問去媒合你剛剛所提到的，有一些部分的商家可能有貨補不到的狀況，但是整體上來講，塑膠袋的生產從供給端跟需求端是沒有問題的。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:03:57.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:04:26.656000+08:00","text":"有一些可能會有預期心理造成過早囤貨，但是在這邊藉由這個機會跟大家講，事實上我們平價的塑膠粒專案，從3月31號開爐到現在，我們在4月10號都已經鋪到塑膠袋生產的加工廠，我相信因為預期心理而增加囤貨的這個狀況可以慢慢地獲得緩解。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:04:27.296000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:04:29.958000+08:00","text":"當然，我們還是會持續做這些媒合的工作。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:04:30.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:05:07.621000+08:00","text":"好，我跟次長說一下，因為我如果不是到市場上直接被選民陳情，今天也不會問這一題，因為上個禮拜我在質詢時你們就跟我說這個問題被解決了，你們已經在處理，就像你剛剛講的那些，我都肯定，能夠去解決，有行動去紓解，你說供給端、需求端都沒什麼問題，而囤貨的問題現在在查，也在抑制，可是我要看到的是結果端，很簡單，走個市場就有攤販反映，而且他真的很生氣啊！","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:05:07.721000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:05:16.352000+08:00","text":"他覺得對他造成很大的困擾，因為每天來買塑膠袋，尤其環保袋的民眾很多，結果他沒辦法賣，大家就問說為什麼你買不到？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:05:18.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:05:32.944000+08:00","text":"他就要一直去應付客人的這個問題，所以還是要拜託經濟部，你所有的一些行政作為、去解決塑膠袋之亂的作為，它檢驗的唯一標準就是民眾有沒有感覺，對不對？","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:05:34.806000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:05:53.370000+08:00","text":"第一線商家的貨源是不是真的得到紓解，這才是最重要的一個檢驗指標，所以拜託再加把勁，不要我們去市場遇到攤販又來反映這個問題，我就不知道我到底要不要相信經濟部在積極處理了，請經濟部再努力一下，好不好？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:05:54.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:05:54.430000+08:00","text":"我們絕對會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:05:54.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:06:01.131000+08:00","text":"解決民眾、商家，還有產業的問題，一直以來是我們經濟部需要努力的，我們會持續精進，謝謝委員指導。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-04-13T12:06:01.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:06:01.151000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-13T12:06:01.651000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T12:06:04.222429+08:00","text":"接下來請洪孟楷委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}