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謝謝謝謝陳冠廷委員質詢"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:00.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:00.049000+08:00","text":"主席好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:00.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:01.010000+08:00","text":"先請教經濟部有關LNG供應缺口跟替代方案之相關問題。","quality":0.68},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:22.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:24.151000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。你好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:26.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:30.620000+08:00","text":"國發會在書面報告中提到，有關天然氣4月至5月的調度已經完成。","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:31.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:38.830000+08:00","text":"但6月要調度15艘，現在只找到11艘，所以還有4艘的缺口，因此6月的調度還沒有完全到位。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:38.830000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T12:20:41.091000+08:00","text":"多數都到位了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:20:41.091000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:00.796000+08:00","text":"荷姆茲海峽現在處於實質關閉狀態，不管是伊朗封鎖或是未來美國也進入雙重封鎖，那麼我們就必須對這個狀況做最壞的打算，可能不是一個月、可能不是兩個月、可能從三個月到五個月，甚至到年底，我們無法預知接下來會發生什麼事情。","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:03.778000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:16.368000+08:00","text":"中油現在正在積極尋找替代貨源，如美國、澳洲等來源，目前主要來自……你們說北美不是沒有貨，又說現在講「三三三」布局，也就是卡達、澳洲、美國各三分之一。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:17.809000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:21.673000+08:00","text":"但實質上，美國占中油進口的實質比例大概是多少？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:23.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:28.962000+08:00","text":"石油部分大概是60%左右。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:30.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:31.824000+08:00","text":"石油的部分？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:32.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:32.865000+08:00","text":"天然氣的部分呢？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:35.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:36.387000+08:00","text":"天然氣是10%。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:36.387000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:38.809000+08:00","text":"天然氣10%？對。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:38.809000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:51.477000+08:00","text":"上次訪美時有聽到未來我們希望跟美方，特別是在阿拉斯加的部分合作要增加，也包含天然氣合作的可能性，這部分未來有沒有辦法擴張？","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:52.858000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:21:56.922000+08:00","text":"多元的能源、料源是一種努力方向。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:21:57.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:10.092000+08:00","text":"以今年2月為例，中油公司已經跟美方簽訂另外的新長約，這個新長約本來下半年要提貨，現在中油公司已經提前到6月提貨。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:10.092000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:13.975000+08:00","text":"至於委員提到阿拉斯加的狀況，目前尚未進行到FID的程序……","quality":0.577},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:14.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:14.755000+08:00","text":"現在是意向書？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:16.281000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:28.387000+08:00","text":"還沒有到FID的程序，中油公司正依阿拉斯加開發商的資料進行評估中。謝謝。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:29.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:40.675000+08:00","text":"就我們所看到的資訊，至少到2024年的資訊可知，澳洲是38%左右、卡達大概25%、美方部分大概是10%，數字大概是這樣。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:41.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:48.059000+08:00","text":"所以為了因應風險，未來一定要做全面性、結構性的調整，看起來這種狀況是一定會發生的。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:48.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:52.142000+08:00","text":"至於開源節流，特別是開源部分，我們也會緊盯。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:52.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:22:56.385000+08:00","text":"所以這部分可否請經濟部想辦法檢討一下？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:22:56.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:23:02.819000+08:00","text":"針對近期要通過荷姆茲海峽的部分……我們就假設不進來了……好。","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:23:03.099000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:23:18.072000+08:00","text":"所以會從其他貨源來調應，我們用D+90的方式，針對未來90天我們所有需要的貨氣部分都已經有排程，而且我們每天也針對這部分跟相關單位進行檢討。","quality":0.855},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-04-13T12:23:18.072000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:23:20.594000+08:00","text":"比如這幾天其實都有美國的貨氣來靠卸，還有其他地方的貨氣來靠卸。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:23:27.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-13T12:23:27.819000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝經濟部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-13T12:23:28.660000+08:00","guesse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