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結合科技最適合的地方在哪裡你知道這個S狼袋"},{"start":436.428,"end":456.984,"text":"就是在這個岡山跟橋頭那過去的傳統產業聚落有螺絲扣線也有半導體的整個製造中心也有三級棒球的這個訓練集體也有直棒球隊的一個訓練集體然後又有捷運那現在的地都是台中地所以已經有既有的基礎那課員"},{"start":459.485,"end":471.214,"text":"也可以結合屏東還有高雄還有台南那剛好在這個交界所以交通方便然後未來會形成一個北高雄的這個高雄市的這個科技新都心"},{"start":472.495,"end":500.084,"text":"所以有很多的這個專業人士會進駐所以我覺得要結合AI 結合相關的高科技要設立一個製彈 我說SmartDome不是一個巨彈 SmartDome所以我去考察了很多幾乎韓國跟日本的這個世界大選的這個所謂的巨彈我都去看過我們不用那麼大也許大概兩萬到兩萬五左右的這個場館就可以了"},{"start":501.084,"end":519.031,"text":"而且我覺得以後的圍管會更容易我覺得運動部有這個責任去做一個整合不要每個縣市都去射彈你要因地制宜你要看看它的條件是不是適合如果你變成一個空彈你射一個彈變成空彈"},{"start":520.491,"end":546.445,"text":"這個非常自由的浪費所以我這部分我希望說運動部能夠做一個課題做一個去思考去協助去協調各個縣市政府怎麼樣設立一個非常好的大家都會願意進場的一個智慧型的這個室內比賽場館所以我這個部分建議運動部能夠去當一個課題去研究這是一個重要的議題我們會來研議好 謝謝謝謝委員"},{"start":549.093,"end":549.113,"text":"好 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term、長期來講，我還是希望有一個運動產業發展的專法。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:28.059333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:33.916667+08:00","text":"三年之內可以提出來嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:33.916667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:39.774000+08:00","text":"三年可以，今年我們就會提出第一個版本，就是作用法跟基本法合併的修改，在我們目前的規劃，8月1號會報行政院。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:39.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:40.675000+08:00","text":"好，你說運動綱領，是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:41.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:46.840000+08:00","text":"不是，是我們的國民體育法修法，把它修成兼顧基本法跟作用法。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:46.940000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:51.003000+08:00","text":"好啦，您剛剛說三年之內，我們這個運動發展專法或者運動健康產業發展專法……","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:51.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:52.924000+08:00","text":"我們來研議，我們往那個方向來研議看看。","quality":0.588},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:53.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:57.968000+08:00","text":"三年之內要把它訂出來，那我也要努力拚連任。加油！","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:20:03.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:20:08.671000+08:00","text":"另外，運動產業發展政策綱領，你們有這個政策綱領。是。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:20:09.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:20:10.612000+08:00","text":"但是一直還沒有更新。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:20:12.594000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:20:28.044000+08:00","text":"抱歉，委員，對不起，4月13號已經報到行政院了，從去年我們接手以後，我們努力地針對新的發展重新擬定運動產業發展綱領，4月13號已經報到行政院，行政院會做跨部會的審查。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:20:28.744000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:05.486000+08:00","text":"另外，大型比賽的室內場館除了大巨蛋之外，新北市、臺中市都有這個規劃、想法，我覺得南部更需要，南部現在沒有大型比賽場館，因為南部天氣比較熱，有時候下雨、雨季，所以很多賽事受到天氣熱或下雨的影響，會影響到入場觀賽的舒適度，所以南部應該要設一個大型的比賽場館，結合AI、結合半導體、結合科技。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:21:06.507000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:07.747000+08:00","text":"最適合的地方在哪裡你知道嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:21:09.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:13.130000+08:00","text":"S廊帶，就是在岡山跟橋頭。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:21:13.631000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:57.899000+08:00","text":"它過去的傳統產業聚落有螺絲扣件，也有半導體的整個製造中心，也有三級棒球訓練基地，也有職棒球隊訓練基地，然後又有捷運，現在那些土地都是台糖的地，已經有既有的基礎，客源可以結合屏東、高雄，還有臺南，因為剛好在交界，所以交通方便，未來會形成一個高雄市的科技新都心，有很多專業人士會進駐，所以我覺得要結合AI、結合相關的高科技設立一個「智蛋」，我說的是「smart dom」，不是一個巨蛋。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:00.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:17.405000+08:00","text":"我去考察了很多，韓國跟日本的室內大型巨蛋，我幾乎都去看過，我們不用那麼大，也許大概兩萬到兩萬五左右的場館就可以了，而且我覺得以後的維管會更容易。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:19.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:36.272000+08:00","text":"運動部有這個責任去整合，不要每個縣市都去設蛋，要因地制宜，要看它的條件適不適合，如果設立一個蛋變成空蛋，這樣資源會非常浪費。","quality":0.804},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:36.272000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:58.584000+08:00","text":"所以這部分我希望運動部能夠做一個課題，去思考、協助、協調各個縣市政府怎麼樣設立一個非常好、大家都很願意進場的智慧型室內比賽場館，這個部分我建議運動部能夠當作課題研究。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:59.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.305000+08:00","text":"這是個重要的議題，我們會來研議。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.425000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.445000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:00.945000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:03.802143+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，謝謝兩位次長。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:04.102143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:06.959286+08:00","text":"接下來有請鄭正鈐委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}