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那次長回答一下對中油台電呢是 當然我們會持續觀察就是說這個部分也許短時間之內要能夠恢復到這2月28號以前的那個油價可能我覺得是有困難但是我們會觀察就是說整個國際的那你們中油還有台電吸收成本會不會"},{"start":604.668,"end":616.933,"text":"會不會降低?這個會跟油價的這個波動會有關係所以也許如果油價有下降的話那當然就是我們中油的這個成本大概就會降低"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:31:09.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:31:11.490000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我想要請經濟部次長跟運動部次長。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:31:11.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:31:11.890000+08:00","text":"請經濟部何次長、運動部黃次長。","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:31:11.890000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:31:39.835000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:31:39.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:32:06.640000+08:00","text":"何次長，你提到依照運動產業發展條例，你要配合運動部的運動產業政策綱領，在這個前提下，我想要請問，經濟部主管的運動製造業跟運動部所主管的運動產業促進，這兩個是怎麼樣的主從關係？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:32:06.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:32:09.522000+08:00","text":"因為你們兩個今天都在，是不是就來做一個釐清？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:32:10.143000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:32:26.936000+08:00","text":"就是這兩個是怎麼樣的主從關係，未來在補助資源的部分怎麼樣避免疊床架屋，以及如何協助我國運動產業及運動科技在全世界的推廣？","quality":0.754},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:32:29.634000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:32:30.075000+08:00","text":"請何次長先說明好了。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:32:32.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:11.156000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們這邊所輔導的運動產業包括運動用品產業還有自行車產業，光運動用品產業的範圍就很廣，包括各項球類，包括羽毛球拍、高爾夫球具或是戶外或室內的健身器材等等，這些都是我們所定義運動用品的範圍；自行車產業的部分就更聚焦，是自行車的整車、零配件等等，這些都是我們輔導的對象。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:13.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:29.703000+08:00","text":"也就是說，我們許多的輔導資源不管是研發的補助或是我們租稅抵減的獎勵對象，其實這些產業所屬的行業都占了一大部分。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:30.744000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:31.664000+08:00","text":"那運動產業的外貿推廣呢？","quality":0.364},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:32.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:37.186000+08:00","text":"外貿就是協助他們去做一些展覽，像國內的自行車展還有運動用品展等等，這些我們在國內、國外都會協助這些產業去做推廣。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:47.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:48.474000+08:00","text":"我們是不是能就教一下黃次長？","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:48.474000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:33:51.255000+08:00","text":"委員你好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:33:51.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:34:02.043000+08:00","text":"次長，請教一下，你所謂運動產業的促進，是只有就運動業，還是運動相關的產業你們也會共同協助？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:34:02.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:34:28.204000+08:00","text":"就運動產業的定義當中，我們目前是12加1項，也就是除了製造業之外，有非常多類型的服務，也就是為什麼我們今年在跟經濟部合作推動小規模的新創公司時，特別針對運動服務類型給予特定的補助，因為服務業是廣泛的，我們需要有更創新的服務概念來推動運動產業。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:34:28.204000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:16.501000+08:00","text":"我想就教一下，就是現在世界棒球12強以及相關的職棒比賽，大家都非常愛看，所以大家都開始了解所謂的鷹眼系統跟電子好球帶系統，經濟部也有研發相關的鷹眼系統，已經導入到天母球場，未來有沒有機會……因為這種東西是要藉由運動部對於世界上這樣共同的脈絡、聯繫等等，才有可能把我們的棒球鷹眼系統推廣出去，這個部分怎麼樣合作？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:18.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:26.991000+08:00","text":"我們想要知道，除了可以把它導入天母球場以外，是不是有辦法推廣到全世界其他的球場？","quality":0.838},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:28.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:43.085000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，目前我們跟經濟部的合作，其實是我們的技術司在合作，技術端那邊來開發，而應用認證端是我們這邊在執行，我們希望能夠開發我們自己臺灣版的鷹眼系統。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:43.646000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:57.093000+08:00","text":"不瞞委員說，跟委員報告，就在上個禮拜，菲律賓的體委會主委來到我們臺灣，他們正要蓋棒球場，我就提出來我們可以提供臺灣版的鷹眼服務給他們。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:57.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:57.253000+08:00","text":"目前他們……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:57.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:35:59.596000+08:00","text":"因為他們要先蓋場館，所以這一塊要到後端。","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:35:59.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:36:04.060000+08:00","text":"所以你們要把鷹眼系統推到菲律賓，是不是？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:36:04.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:36:23.214000+08:00","text":"我們要先把我們內部的東西做好，目前我們鷹眼系統的計算還會有一些lag，我們目前正在開發25G的camera系統，才有辦法類比美國的鷹眼系統，因為美國的鷹眼系統太貴了，而且它不賣，它只租，所以對我們來講，我們應該開發我們自己的系統。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:36:23.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:36:28.657000+08:00","text":"更何況我們需要把我們的資料留在臺灣，因為如果用他們的系統，資料從雲端到他們那邊去，我們就……","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:36:28.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:36:29.6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如果16號就停火了，對於目前我們天然氣、石油相關的成本吸收會不會降低、降低多少？","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:39:49.510000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:39:51.192000+08:00","text":"等一下我們也請次長回答。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T10:39:51.332000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:02.944000+08:00","text":"第一個，我想委員也非常關注這個問題，你也可以看到今天的天然氣或者是原油，不管是布蘭特原油或是西德州原油，它的價格都一直在下降。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:04.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:19.654000+08:00","text":"很多預測機構都預期這個戰事應該會在短期之內結束，假如是短期之內會結束的話，對於我們的CPI影響，其實是相當有限，對於我們的經濟成長來講的話，也不會有太大的影響。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:19.654000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:19.974000+08:00","text":"不會有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:20.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:20.654000+08:00","text":"不會，短期……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:22.475000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:26.437000+08:00","text":"至少我們的CPI不會再上升了，物價不會再上升上去了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:26.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:52.692000+08:00","text":"因為可能物價會有一些遞延效果，這個戰爭是從2月底開始，所以遞延效果會慢慢地……可能會發生在4月，但是假如戰事在4月，就好像我們預估在4月16日結束的話，整個市場會充分地反映到CPI指數上面，所以對全年的CPI來講的話，應該是不會有大幅上升的可能。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:53.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:40:55.574000+08:00","text":"次長，回答一下，對中油、台電呢？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:40:56.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:09.305000+08:00","text":"當然，我們會持續觀察，這個部分也許短時間之內要能夠恢復到2月28日以前的油價，我覺得可能是有困難，但是我們會觀察整個國際油價的變化。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:09.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:14.008000+08:00","text":"依你們的預估，中油還有台電吸收的成本會不會降低？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:14.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:25.913000+08:00","text":"這個跟油價的波動有關係，所以如果油價有下降的話，當然我們中油的成本大概就會降低。謝謝。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:26.413000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:30.127286+08:00","text":"謝謝謝衣鳯委員，次長先請回座。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:30.427286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:45.570143+08:00","text":"跟陳超明委員說明一下，因為我剛剛有宣布謝衣鳯委員質詢完就休息6分鐘，你稍等一下，大家來洗手一下，掌握時間，現在休息6分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:45.870143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:47.013000+08:00","text":"休息（10時41分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:47.313000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:49.027286+08:00","text":"繼續開會（10時48分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:49.327286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:53.041571+08:00","text":"列席官員請回座，我們繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:41:53.341571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:41:57.055857+08:00","text":"現在請下一位陳超明委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}