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不對嗎"},{"start":499.642,"end":520.899,"text":"我們一直努力好不好這個再拜託一下還有一點這個很不公平台灣的體育人才幾乎在鄉下結果我們培養到小學之中培養起來結果好的人才都跑到六讀高中他們有錢就把這些人挖草這樣你說要怎麼推展體育"},{"start":523.294,"end":550.195,"text":"在有錢的六都啊裡面他們都一直挖角那我們培養辛辛苦苦培養結果那個成果的時候摘果實的時候不是我們原來的發展地都在六都啊啊你聽有辦法改變如果像地方上它確實有一種運動產業非常好的時候市長你多等你啊這個要如何改善跟解決這個問題很嚴重啊"},{"start":551.724,"end":577.619,"text":"我們有看到這樣的狀況,這也是為什麼我們現在在推動的基層上面我們希望基層的運動能夠再強你那個要保重因為六都的企業家多,我們那邊企業家少所以我們今天去跟他們說說,老闆要跟他們講話,你們要幫忙找人不要只有六都人口多,你就把他補助多一點,不合理啦這個世界不公平啦好不好,好謝謝"},{"start":580.305,"end":581.911,"text":"謝謝,謝謝陳教練委員,多讓你多講幾分鐘"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:24.111000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:24.492000+08:00","text":"主席好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:25.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:30.875000+08:00","text":"首先有請運動部黃政務次長。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:30.875000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:37.591500+08:00","text":"請運動部黃次長。","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:37.591500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:44.308000+08:00","text":"委員，你好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:44.308000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:44.308000+08:00","text":"黃政務次長好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:48:45.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:48:58.757000+08:00","text":"今天我們主席是用心良苦，特別把運動部找來經濟委員會開會，他今天所有邀請的人，我覺得他不懷好……不是，是用心良苦，用心良苦！","quality":0.849},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:00.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:10.485000+08:00","text":"我首先請教你一個問題，運動部的成立，是要推展全民運動，還是只是要國家隊去打世界盃？","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:12.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:20.267000+08:00","text":"應該是兩者並行，以前對於競技運動的確非常重視，可是運動部成立之後，我們會更加地加強全民運動。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:21.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:33.556000+08:00","text":"運動部成立的時候，要組織國家隊，我只問你一個問題，以臺灣現在體育的發展，我不要講世界運動會世運，我講亞運。","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:33.556000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:39.641000+08:00","text":"亞運，你覺得以臺灣人的體格、臺灣的運動型態，我們有哪種能拿到前三名？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:39.641000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:41.170000+08:00","text":"你是指哪幾個？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:41.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:42.671000+08:00","text":"有哪幾個項目？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:43.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:45.533000+08:00","text":"目前嗎？對。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:45.533000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:49:58.233000+08:00","text":"今年不錯的是拳擊、舉重、射箭、射擊，以及部分的田徑項目，還有我們的kabaddi也不錯。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:49:58.233000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:00.354000+08:00","text":"我為什麼跟你問這個問題？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:00.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:06.018000+08:00","text":"因為運動跟體型各方面有關係，你會不會說要去打籃球？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:06.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:08.800000+08:00","text":"或是一百米的或是一千米的？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:09.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:23.196000+08:00","text":"大概我們會很困難，所以我主張運動部需要全民的運動，全民的運動能強身健國，打仗的時候能打，要跑的時候也跑得比別人快，這個很重要！","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:24.117000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:30.669000+08:00","text":"最重要的是延長人的生命，把運動當作我們日常生活最重要的一部分。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:32.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:33.332000+08:00","text":"你了解嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:33.332000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:34.053000+08:00","text":"我了解。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:35.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:46.281000+08:00","text":"你要打國家隊，不一定去拚，我們要選擇一種比較適合臺灣人去跟世界競技、較勁的地方，一定要改變這些觀念。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:47.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:52.825000+08:00","text":"我現在常常看到老人槌球運動、老人高爾夫球，到處都很普遍啊！","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:53.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:50:57.649000+08:00","text":"你們一定要把它改成一個運動風氣，我覺得最重要。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:50:58.449000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:51:01.671000+08:00","text":"其實全民運動最重要，因為比賽只有一、兩個。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:51:03.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:51:08.478000+08:00","text":"今天我為什麼特別說要感謝我們的召委用心良苦？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-04-15T10:51:09.099000+08:00","guesse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