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他不去考"},{"start":225.763,"end":244.38,"text":"就是這樣的一個報名,預約到的名額,就變成被浪費掉了大家都,我們說,南韓話叫做,上秋,上夜,上晨,上夜嘛他就去站了,站了到時候時間到了,他就缺考,結果這些名額"},{"start":245.501,"end":267.482,"text":"就沒辦法來適時的使用嘛我們從去年的一個報考人數我們來看28萬9千人的報考只有21萬8千人去真正的倒考有7萬1千人根本沒有去也就是啊 大家看不看得到四分之一的人根本沒去考"},{"start":268.323,"end":285.897,"text":"不去考 大家就出事 產生這麼嚴重的問題所以在這樣的情況 想考的人沒辦法去考 報的名的人不去考產生這樣的一個網路 預約的黑洞在那裡"},{"start":287.018,"end":297.044,"text":"這個部分我們有檢討要怎麼處理嗎謝謝委員關心您所關心的這個議題其實我們之前有檢討過那在之前1月之前今年1月之前報考率是75%我們檢討完換了新機制之後現在的報考率是到97%已經到97%了但是目前的情況能夠釋出的名額會更多"},{"start":309.791,"end":328.158,"text":"有能夠來提 讓到考慮啊整個提升就是我們的要求嘛 對不對因為我們的能量一直在低減 我剛剛有講嘛我們提供的能量 民耳一直在低減那你到考慮一定要提升啊不然民眾的有一個埋怨啊"},{"start":329.119,"end":342.82,"text":"還是存在 像委員報告一方面倒考率提升那二方面我會讓整體的可以考的名額再提升 名額要增加我這邊就有提出建議了我希望倒考率的名額要釋出那要滾"},{"start":344.542,"end":369.755,"text":"滾動的一個檢討你讓民眾要考一個技術的教學變成困難這個就一定要處理要檢討了好不好我們公路局也在這邊我們希望一起來讓民眾能夠有考個駕照能夠更方便好不好那接下來我在這邊也要討論提出一個"},{"start":370.955,"end":392.173,"text":"建議我們現在反正油價上漲我們通勤組運用大眾運輸工具的一個情況越來越多尤其高鐵台北台中南部台北這樣的一個用高鐵來通勤的一個比例人數越來越多"},{"start":393.314,"end":410.235,"text":"那我在這邊我有發覺我們高鐵這邊有一個這個票制彈性不夠彈性不夠它在郵費方面它只有兩種一個叫經濟票一個叫回溯票那前陣子我們高鐵有在"},{"start":411.816,"end":420.74,"text":"討論這個票價的調漲嘛 要調整當然目前因為中東戰爭因素還有整個帕海這個漲價影響我們的一個通貨膨脹我相信高鐵是不會漲價 不會漲價但是啊 它過去我們在定期票的部分它過去 希望去到崗位省"},{"start":436.986,"end":462.596,"text":"那二十天下去算就是禮拜六禮拜天不算了一天兩天它的折扣算起來應該在一萬三千兩百三十塊後來現在就改成只有一種定期票一天二十天改成三十天存一張存一張那一張下去處理就變成了"},{"start":463.456,"end":491.371,"text":"他的定期票會變成我這個是以台中跟台北為例子台中跟台北一天兩座來說你該做三十天來算我的定期票一個月就要花到一千九百多一萬九千八百四十五塊以我台北台中這樣來算所以其實這裡就有變相的一個調漲價格就通情主來"},{"start":492.892,"end":520.029,"text":"來講 我原來的定期票我改中再改半我一公尺百分之一萬三現在都要變成一萬九另外一種又會就叫做回溯票我們來看回溯票回溯票你目前只有兩種一種是三十天的十次八二折另外一種是六十天的八次九二折所以我們剛才要給我們顧提供的就是定期票你調成從"},{"start":521.77,"end":549.101,"text":"二十天的調整三十天只有一種變相漲價第二個你的回溯票你只有一個三十天做十趟的八二折六十天做八趟九二折那我在這邊我建議因為我每天也是一樣這個台中台北這樣同情我們的建議就是我在這邊提出建議回溯票的制度"},{"start":549.861,"end":569.159,"text":"是不是可以來增加回書票你目前30天只有10張你能不能來研議啊我比如說我一個月內40張還是20天內40張那個折扣數啊你可以從原來的92折82折去調整成類似我建議的65折讓這個"},{"start":576.325,"end":596.924,"text":"彈性 優惠的彈性更多讓通勤組的民眾更方便來使用這也是因應我們票價未來可能挑戰的一個方案在這裡是不是請交通部長還是我們高鐵局這邊能夠做一個高鐵公司這邊做個回應"},{"start":598.127,"end":616.5,"text":"謝謝委員您剛剛說的那個條帳的部分目前都不是真正在落實的方案其實高鐵各種方案都在滾動檢討委員您現在在建議的這個20日40次的這個部分我們也請高鐵公司把它納入檢討的範圍裡面我們來討論看有沒有這樣的可能性您的說法沒有錯啦"},{"start":617.16,"end":623.984,"text":"讓他更有彈性讓這個通勤組有更有彈性更多的選擇讓我們的票價定期票回溯票這樣的一個優惠能夠更有彈性那目前其實也有其他的委員有其他的建議包含30天跟60天中間再差一個"},{"start":634.489,"end":641.097,"text":"那彈性是正確的了所以現在高鐵公司也有在做檢查高鐵公司應該更加的靈活啦好不好所以以後為了一個制度更加的靈活這是我的建議好 以上 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:39.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:43.276000+08:00","text":"主席，請交通部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:43.816000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:43.896000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:43.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:43.956000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:50.212000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:50.412000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:52.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:19:52.574000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:19:54.696000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:20:39.661000+08:00","text":"我們的油價雖然凍漲，但油價還是上漲，我們很多通勤族還是以機車、摩托車作為主要的通勤工具，尤其是上班族，但是我們現在發現有一個狀況就是考機車駕照全面改用網路預約，結果現在要去預約機車考照好像比要搶演唱會的門票還要困難。","quality":0.832},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:20:40.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:00.169000+08:00","text":"我跟你報告，這很離譜，「機車考照」形成網路的一個關鍵字，連機車考照現在竟然也會變成民眾到我們民意代表服務處尋求陳情協助的一個服務項目。","quality":0.623},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:21:01.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:21:59.033000+08:00","text":"我去了解一下，我們從這個表格來看，採用全面的網路預約，在2023年我們可以提供給民眾考照的預約名額有35萬人左右，但是到2024年就整個遞減，2025年更遞減到28萬人，整個名額下降，民眾為了考駕照好像一個月前就要去搶、要去預約又預約不到，我們不是要鼓勵所有國民要安全駕駛、要取得駕駛執照之後才能夠安全上路嗎？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:21:59.033000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:03.135000+08:00","text":"但是考照為什麼會變得這麼困難？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:05.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:08.099000+08:00","text":"部長，你知不知道這種民生最迫切的問題？","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:08.099000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:18.307000+08:00","text":"了解，我最近其實也密集跟公路局在討論這個問題，因為確實民眾已經有反映，而且不是一小段時間，已經好幾個月都有反映這樣的現象。對。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:19.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:22.771000+08:00","text":"我們不應該讓民眾在考照的過程當中遇到這樣的困難啦！","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:22.771000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:23.591000+08:00","text":"不應該啊，但事實就是存在。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:24.272000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:25.193000+08:00","text":"是，向委員報告，其實預約制已經施行10年，從105年到現在施行10年。對啊！","quality":0.731},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:25.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:43.064000+08:00","text":"所以問題不在預約制，是我們供給的部分可能不符合現在的需求，我有要求公路局在短時間之內先做一個措施，讓提供的名額可以成長10%。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:44.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:45.025000+08:00","text":"過去的網路預約沒問題，為何近兩年會產生這樣的問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:51.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:52.094000+08:00","text":"這個要檢討啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:52.094000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:22:53.375000+08:00","text":"是，這個我們……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:22:53.375000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:06.720000+08:00","text":"我也有去了解，最重要的是因為現在整個預約會變成就像大家搶門票一樣，人越來越多，就要用搶的，你知道嗎？","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:06.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:12.842000+08:00","text":"你一搶，你就會發覺，只要搶到了，他就登錄，對不對？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:12.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:23:38.683000+08:00","text":"但是時間到了，他不去考，這樣一個報名預約到的名額就變成被浪費掉了，閩南話叫做「先搶先贏、先占先贏」，他占了，到時候時間到了，他就缺考，結果這些名額就沒辦法來適時使用。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:23:39.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:20.560000+08:00","text":"我們從去年的報考人數來看，28萬9,000人報考，只有21萬8,000人真正到考，有7萬1,000人根本沒有去，也就是大家把名額占住，四分之一的人根本沒去考，而且大家又都搶不到，產生這麼嚴重的問題，所以這樣的情況下，想考的人沒辦法去考，報到名的人不去考，產生這樣一個網路預約的黑洞在那裡，這個部分我們有檢討要怎麼處理嗎？","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:20.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:24.542000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心，您所關心的這個議題其實我們之前有檢討過。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:24.542000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:25.542000+08:00","text":"對，事情就沒解決。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:24.822000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:26.803000+08:00","text":"有，在今年1月之前報考率是75%，我們檢討完換了新機制之後，現在的報考率是到97%。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:26.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:26.883000+08:00","text":"已經到97%了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:27.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:27.744000+08:00","text":"這是目前的情況？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:27.744000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:28.024000+08:00","text":"已經到97%了，所以已經有大幅度改善，能夠釋出的名額會更多。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:40.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:46.893000+08:00","text":"好，能夠讓到考率整個提升，這是我們的要求，對不對？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:46.893000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:47.893000+08:00","text":"已經提升到97%了，但是我們會持續再讓它精進。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:46.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:55.617000+08:00","text":"因為我們的能量一直在遞減，我剛剛有講，我們提供的能量、名額一直在遞減，到考率一定要提升啊！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:55.617000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:24:56.617000+08:00","text":"是，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:24:56.057000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:00.499000+08:00","text":"不然民眾的埋怨還是存在。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:00.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:05.607000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，一方面到考率提升，二方面我會讓整體可以考的名額再提升10%。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:05.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:16.903000+08:00","text":"名額要增加啦，我這邊就有提出建議了，我希望到考率的名額要釋出，要滾動檢討。好、是。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:16.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:25.127000+08:00","text":"你讓民眾想要考一個機車駕照變成那麼困難，這個就一定要處理、要檢討了，好不好？","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:25.127000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:26.127000+08:00","text":"這個我們一定會處理。","quality":0.222},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:25.607000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:34.412000+08:00","text":"公路局也在這邊，我們希望一起來讓民眾考駕照能夠更方便啦！","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:34.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:35.412000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:35.412000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T10:25:36.913000+08:00","text":"是，沒有問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:25:36.913000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:26:28.899000+08:00","text":"接下來我在這邊也要討論並提出一個建議，現在油價上漲，通勤族運用大眾運輸工具的情況越來越多，尤其高鐵，臺北到臺中、南部到臺北這樣使用高鐵通勤的人數比例越來越多，我在這邊有發覺高鐵的票制彈性不夠，它在優惠方面只有兩種，一個叫定期票，一個叫回數票，前陣子高鐵有在討論票價的調漲、要調整，當然目前因為中東戰爭因素，也怕漲價影響通貨膨脹，我相信高鐵是不會漲價。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:26:28.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:27:41.070000+08:00","text":"但是我們過去在定期票的部分是用20天去算，就是禮拜六，禮拜天不算，一天兩趟，它的折扣算起來應該在1萬3,230元，後來現在就改成只有一種定期票，把20天改成30天，剩一種而已，用這一種去處理，它的定期票會變成……我是以臺中跟臺北為例，臺中跟臺北一天兩趟來說，改成30天來算，我的定期票一個月就要花到1萬9,845元，以臺北、臺中這樣來算，所以其實這裡就有變相調漲價格。","quality":0.858},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:27:41.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:27:50.456000+08:00","text":"就通勤族來說，原來的定期票，臺中跟臺北一個月一萬三，現在就變成一萬九。","quality":0.677},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:27:51.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:28:18.012000+08:00","text":"另外一種優惠就叫做回數票，我們來看回數票，回數票目前只有兩種，一種是30天10次82折，另外一種是60天8次92折，所以我剛剛要跟高鐵說的就是定期票從20天調整為30天，只有一種，變相漲價。","quality":0.847},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:28:18.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:28:26.676000+08:00","text":"第二個，你的回數票只有30天坐10趟82折、60天坐8趟92折。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:28:27.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:28:42.302000+08:00","text":"我在這邊建議，因為我每天也是一樣臺中臺北這樣通勤，我在這邊提出建議，回數票的制度是不是可以來增加？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:28:43.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:28:56.816000+08:00","text":"回數票目前30天使用10趟，能不能來研議比如一個月內40趟，還是20天內40趟？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:28:57.176000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:13.351000+08:00","text":"而折扣數可以從原來的92折、82折去調整成類似我建議的65折，讓優惠的彈性更多，讓通勤族民眾更方便來使用？","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:14.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:27.924000+08:00","text":"這也是因應我們票價未來可能調漲的一個方案，在這裡是不是請交通部長還是高鐵公司做個回應？","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:29.127000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:37.133000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，您剛剛說的調漲部分目前都不是真正在落實的方案，其實高鐵各種方案都在滾動檢討。對。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:37.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:48.160000+08:00","text":"委員，您現在建議的20日40次的這個部分，我們也請高鐵公司把它納入檢討的範圍裡面，我們來討論有沒有這樣的可能性，您的說法沒有錯啦，讓它更有彈性。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:48.320000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:49.661000+08:00","text":"更有彈性。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:50.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:51.342000+08:00","text":"讓通勤族有更有彈性。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員清龍","start":"2026-04-15T10:29:51.462000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T10:29:51.602000+08:00","text":"更多的選擇……","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