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報告委員這個油價我們要看它整體的變化那我們今天一直在報告的內容就是說針對公共運輸的部分我們除了提到今年底的整體的支應的預算之外我們也有提到明年的整體的預算所以至少我們的估算跟協助會到明年的116年的年底那這個部分我們正在做整體的估算但是要看行政院這邊它的整體規劃是什麼樣子"},{"start":195.748,"end":212.725,"text":"部長回過頭來我們還是要講到一個重點總預算的問題跟財化法的問題我想一樣屏東縣現在目前許多的中大交通建設我們都希望能夠加快來進行剛剛我聽到台中的黃金陽委員說台中現在有幾十條捷運我們羨慕的不得了我們現在連屏東連第一條都還沒有來"},{"start":218.615,"end":228.111,"text":"我想這樣子的一個城鄉差距我認為行政院跟交通部真的應該要去加快速度把一些溜突跟廢溜突的差距應該要來"},{"start":229.795,"end":230.355,"text":"努力一下啦"},{"start":260.676,"end":282.195,"text":"部長這個對於我們整個國旅市場您的自己的評估是正面的還是一個毒藥像委員報告您在說正面跟毒藥就是我早上在媒體朋友在問我的時候我有說過那時常都說他們遞出感染汁但是中國是比較特殊的國家時常會把感染汁當作棍子在使用那這個是我們非常擔心的"},{"start":282.535,"end":308.748,"text":"那這幾年其實整個國家的發展我們在觀光業的部分已經朝向多元市場的發展那這三四年裡面我們觀光的這個國際旅客的人數也不斷在成長當中速度也不算慢一年都有上百萬甚至幾十萬的成長那我會覺得台灣往多元市場發展是相對健康的因為我還是要再強調一次因為對岸在開心的時候遞出來的叫做橄欖枝"},{"start":309.708,"end":329.313,"text":"當他不開心的時候那這橄欖枝他會當棍子來使用那對於我們整體的國家的觀光業的發展不是一個健康的方向那不過我們還是歡迎中國的旅客到台灣不過中國提出的政治限制實在是好多因為一方面我們看到他現在說開放福建跟上海"},{"start":329.773,"end":350.542,"text":"那表示什麼表示除了福建跟上海其他的地方的他們中國的人民自由行是被限制的也就是說他們的政治上面的前提相當的多他們沒有全面性的一個開放嘛是那所以如果說福建跟上海叫做善意那其他完全沒開放的那十分之九是不是叫做惡意我覺得這個是我們應該要評估一下"},{"start":350.922,"end":379.701,"text":"部長這個我還是要提醒你我想這個未來面對這樣的一個兩岸情勢的一個變化變化萬千那尤其到底這個對岸到目前為止對我們還是非常的不友善那個飛鏈機不是我們一般的飛鏈機啦這個軍機啦軍艦比較誰來誰會我認為這個對我們來講都是要列入一個到時候邊境的一個管制人中的一個考量部長我想我們省省面對好那兩位請回謝謝"},{"start":381.531,"end":400.445,"text":"部長那我想前幾天我們也有特別提到這個退伍會旗下新興跟大南客運的電動公車有紅色供應鏈的一個問題那我這邊也要特別點到我們陶基陶基部長目前陶基第三航廈的進度做到哪裡了"},{"start":402.712,"end":417.128,"text":"細部設計正在進行當中已經到了細部設計進行那你們有察覺到我們的創意能源他們參與的標案裡面也有針對這樣的一個電動公車有一個大陸的紅色工業的問題嗎部長有注意到嗎"},{"start":419.21,"end":437.131,"text":"委員報告我們契約裡面其實都寫得相當清楚禁止使用中國的資通訊的產品那未來我們也會嚴格的來審核跟審查檢視它裡面到底有沒有中國的資通訊產品如果有的話就代表沒有依據我們的合約在走我們會不讓這件事情發生"},{"start":438.032,"end":459.413,"text":"部長我想這個陶基嘛 范總總經理你們的審查過程裡面有沒有問題你們說這個晶片是台灣製造但是而且有第三方的背書但是先被發現這個晶片確實是中國產製的你們有發現這個狀況嗎跟委員報告跟委員報告我們目前的旅客運輸系統"},{"start":461.795,"end":486.049,"text":"現階段的作業是在細部設計當中還沒有進入到執行所以委員提示的這個問題我們上週也得到這個訊息我們在上週五除了部長已經剛剛提到契約本身就有規定以外上週五再特別發函要求廠商確實依照契約的規範來執行我們也要求我們的顧問跟監照要確實把關來嚴格審查"},{"start":490.069,"end":503.828,"text":"我想第三行下是這個很多國人的一個期待也是陶磯也是我們的門面啦 官方的門面部長 我想交通部也應該要負起這個責任是 不能放好陶磯在澳北部啦我是覺得這樣啦好 我們應該嚴格來解釋這個問題嚴格把關 不會讓這樣的事情發生"},{"start":507.113,"end":531.557,"text":"好 那我想最後一個問題我還是要特別提到這個要請部長幫忙上個禮拜我特別針對這個機車考照的部分有邀集我們交通部相關的同仁來開會討論那果不其然引起了這個全國很多縣市相親的一個熱議的一個熱烈的一個討論那我想剛剛包含我們許多委員也有提到部長確實現在這個要上網登錄這個機車考照"},{"start":536.678,"end":558.088,"text":"比搶演唱會的門票還困難報告委員您有跟我提示過這件事啦那我也有關注到說確實我們在這兩年的這個提供的名額有下降那委員跟我提醒完之後我們有請這個公路局來做這方面的研議我們目前的規劃是每一天要增加10%左右的這個報名的名額這是第一點"},{"start":558.928,"end":577.1,"text":"那第二點針對尤其是屏東確實我們有看到有一些區域他的這個可以報名跟考試的這個額度確實是落差蠻大的尤其是在屏東的部分那我們公路局這邊有做出一個計畫針對屏東的部分看怎麼樣協助讓他這個報考的名額可以提升那第三點就是針對過去在"},{"start":579.421,"end":597.046,"text":"預約報考的過程當中確實有一些缺考的一個狀況就是說實際有倒考的只有75%那我們也做過檢討在1月份有做過檢討到現在已經把倒考率提升到97%也就是說浪費的名額也減少所以這三個方向我們希望能夠解決民眾所關心的這個議題考照的一套"},{"start":597.426,"end":609.912,"text":"部長那我想我也有特別提出當天有特別提出這三項的一個要求那我想我也希望我們交通部從善如流第一個增加每日機車考照的名額上限因為我們目前屏東有33個鄉鎮"},{"start":612.455,"end":633.073,"text":"有山地、有原住民地區、有平地、也有離島目前只有恆春跟屏東兩個考照一個禮拜不到300個名額你給這個中培是多少年紀他怎麼辦他不可能總是無照上路啊我們不可能叫他違規啊但是因為沒辦法趕快去考照所以我認為這要加快速度第二個針對這個監禮站當然"},{"start":634.915,"end":655.849,"text":"有些人會講說我們有一些民間的教訓場也可以考但問題是對很多鄉親來講他們還是信賴我們的建立這樣的一個考照系統所以能不能強化你們那個預約系統的增加後補預約功能那這一點那天我有跟你們同仁討論我們要主動積極一點啊不能說人不來客這個命令浪費掉我認為這個是不負責任的做法"},{"start":657.87,"end":679.6,"text":"你這個A不能考你總是在通知B通知C嘛把硬考慮可以再提高一點嘛要把名額浪費掉沒錯那第三個在還沒有整個增加名額能夠大幅提升的狀況之下能不能增加下鄉考照的一個頻率有些鄉鎮已經有在run了嘛部長這部分能不能再增加能不能給我們一個正面的答覆"},{"start":681.172,"end":704.306,"text":"報告委員 下鄉的部分我們會來規劃 尤其我剛剛有提到 屏東的部分確實落差蠻大的所以我們針對屏東的部分會來特別做處理跟協助那天我開完協調會之後 我們的鄉親公號他們光是做 因為沒有要去考照 早上5點要出門 來到屏東營考你看 因為距離很遠對 沒有錯 部長 要麻煩你正視這個問題一下好 謝謝 謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:13.587000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:21.852000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請陳部長、民航局何局長、觀光署黃副署長。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:21.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:22.152000+08:00","text":"請陳部長、何局長、黃副署長。","quality":0.364},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:26.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:26.315000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:28.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:39.737000+08:00","text":"部長，我看了一下新聞，昨天你到中部，也幫交通部行銷，跟著媽祖走了一段路。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:40.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:40.497000+08:00","text":"對，我們的「氣象君」。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:40.497000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:44.160000+08:00","text":"會不會累？","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:44.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:47.042000+08:00","text":"很熱，流很多汗，但不會累。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:47.042000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:48.042000+08:00","text":"不會累啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:47.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:50.604000+08:00","text":"我想媽祖應該會給你無比的力量，讓你面對這樣一個狀況。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:50.604000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:04:55.037000+08:00","text":"是，媽祖會保佑大家，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:04:55.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:05:46.750000+08:00","text":"部長，最近大家一直在討論隨著中東地緣局勢影響，國際航空燃油價格大幅波動，民航局最近也發布了一個消息，針對短期航線的燃油附加費，從每人17.5美元調漲為45美元，長程的調幅更恐怖，從每人45.5美元調漲為117美元，漲幅高達157%，不少航空公司也跟著調漲了訂位服務費，針對這樣一個機票的調整，當然有兩極化看法，有人認為出國的人數會受到影響，國旅的部分也會因受到刺激而成長，部長個人的看法呢？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:05:47.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:12.172000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，我們國旅其實在這兩、三年都穩定在成長中，包含前一陣子，我們看到墾丁「台灣祭」也是人山人海，甚至我們在道路的輸運上，壓力也相當大，看得出來最近幾次的連假，國旅的訂房率都相當高，在交通運輸的層面，我們也是屢創新高，所以國旅在這幾年都是穩定在上升。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:13.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:38.867000+08:00","text":"確實最近因為油價的推升，會讓國際旅遊的成本提高，我相信會有些國人選擇在國內旅行，畢竟國際航空油價提高之後，整個票價提升，民眾出國的成本也就提高，大家會去算整個生活的經費，在油價高漲的狀況下，是不是就留在臺灣遊玩會更有效率。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:40.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:47.941000+08:00","text":"部長，現在因為受到美伊戰爭的衝擊，這個戰爭到底什麼時候會結束，沒有人知道……","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:47.941000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:48.941000+08:00","text":"對，不知道。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:48.221000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:54.349000+08:00","text":"所以目前的調整方案是屬於短期的，還是會怎麼樣的滾動檢討？","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:55.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:06:56.873000+08:00","text":"我想這也是很多國人關心的議題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:06:58.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:07:22.117000+08:00","text":"是，報告委員，油價我們要看它整體的變化，我們今天報告的內容，其實就是針對公共運輸的部分，除了提到今年底整體支應的預算之外，也提到明年整體的預算，所以至少我們的估算跟協助會到明（116）年年底，這個部分我們正在做整體估算，但也要看行政院這邊的整體規劃。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:07:23.748000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:07:58.335000+08:00","text":"部長，回過頭來，我還是要講到一個重點，就是總預算跟財劃法的問題，我想一樣，屏東縣目前有許多重大交通建設，我們都希望能夠加快進行，剛剛聽到臺中的黃健豪委員說到臺中現在有好幾條捷運，我羨慕得不得了，我們屏東連第一條都還沒有來，針對這樣的城鄉差距，我認為行政院跟交通部真的應該加快速度，把六都跟非六都的一些差距，應該要努力一下，應該是這樣啦！","quality":0.843},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:07:58.335000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:08:13.505500+08:00","text":"是，跟屏東相關的捷運，目前是在高雄市政府所提的計畫當中，這個部分，我們也是全力配合，在行政作業上儘量節省時間。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:08:13.505500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:08:28.676000+08:00","text":"另外，昨天有一個很重要的新聞，就是國民黨鄭麗文主席跟中國習近平主席碰完面之後，中共宣布了一些惠臺措施，其中包含恢復兩岸直航，讓陸客重新回到臺灣來重遊臺灣。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:08:28.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:08:36.142000+08:00","text":"部長，這對於我們整個國旅市場，你自己的評估是正面的，還是是一個毒藥？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:08:36.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:08:50.175000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，你說正面或毒藥，其實早上媒體朋友問我的時候，我就說過，時常都說他們遞出橄欖枝，但中國是一個比較特殊的國家，時常會把橄欖枝當作棍子使用，這是我們非常擔心的。","quality":0.813},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:08:50.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:30.811000+08:00","text":"其實這幾年我們國家在觀光業部分，已經朝向多元市場的發展，三、四年來，我們的國際觀光旅客人數不斷在成長當中，速度也不算慢，一年都有幾十萬甚至上百萬的成長，我是覺得臺灣往多元市場發展是相對健康，我還是要再強調一次，因為對岸在開心的時候遞出來的叫做橄欖枝，當他不開心的時候，橄欖枝會當棍子來使用，這對於我們國家整體觀光業的發展，不是一個健康的方向，不過，我們還是歡迎中國的旅客到臺灣來。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:31.111000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:38.513000+08:00","text":"問題是中國提出的政治限制實在好多，一方面我們看到他說要開放福建跟上海，但這表示什麼？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:38.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:47.037000+08:00","text":"表示除了福建跟上海，其他地方的中國人民自由行是被限制的，也就是說，他們政治上的前提相當多……","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:47.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:48.798000+08:00","text":"他們沒有全面性的開放嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:49.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:56.701000+08:00","text":"是，所以如果說開放福建跟上海叫做善意，那其他完全沒開放的十分之九，是不是叫做惡意？","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:57.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:09:58.522000+08:00","text":"我覺得這個是我們應該要評估一下的。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:09:58.922000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:06.247000+08:00","text":"部長，我還是要提醒你，我想未來面對兩岸情勢變化，變化萬千啦！","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:07.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:16.694000+08:00","text":"尤其對岸到目前為止對我們還是非常的不友善，那些飛機，不是我們一般的飛機，而是軍機、軍艦……","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:16.694000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:18.515000+08:00","text":"時常在那邊繞。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:18.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:26+08:00","text":"我認為這個對我們來講都是要列入到時候邊境管制很重要的一個考量，部長，我想我們審慎面對。好。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:27.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:27.701000+08:00","text":"兩位請回，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:29.531000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:41.340000+08:00","text":"部長，前幾天我們也有特別提到，退輔會旗下欣欣跟大南客運的電動公車有紅色供應鏈的問題。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:41.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:48.425000+08:00","text":"我也要特別點到我們的桃機，部長，目前桃機第三航廈的進度做到哪裡了？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:50.712000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:10:52.514000+08:00","text":"細部設計正在進行當中。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:10:54.236000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:11:04.928000+08:00","text":"那你們有察覺到我們的創奕能源參與的標案裡面，針對這樣的電動公車也有大陸紅色供應鏈的問題嗎？","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:11:04.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:11:05.128000+08:00","text":"部長有注意到嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:11:07.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:11:25.111000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，我們契約裡面其實都寫得相當清楚，禁止使用中國資通訊的產品，未來我們也會嚴格地來審核跟審查，檢視它裡面到底有沒有中國的資通訊產品，如果有的話，就代表沒有依據我們的合約在走，我們會不讓這件事情發生。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:11:28.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:11:32.799000+08:00","text":"桃機范總經理，你們的審查過程裡面有沒有問題？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:11:32.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:11:41.507000+08:00","text":"你們說這個晶片是臺灣製造，而且有第三方的背書，但是現在被發現這個晶片確實是中國產製的，你們有發現這個狀況嗎？","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"范總經理孝倫","start":"2026-04-15T11:11:44.950000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:14.029000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們目前的旅客運輸系統，現階段的作業是在細部設計當中，還沒有進入到執行，所以委員提示的問題，我們上週也得到這個訊息，我們在上週五……除了部長剛剛提到契約本身就有規定以外，上週五再特別發函要求廠商確實依照契約的規範來執行，我們也要求我們的顧問跟監造要確實把關嚴格審查。","quality":0.992},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:18.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:28.604000+08:00","text":"我想第三航廈是很多國人的期待，桃機也是我們的觀光門面，部長，我想交通部也應該要負起這個責任，不能放任桃機在那邊亂搞啦！","quality":0.759},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:29.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:29.625000+08:00","text":"我是覺得這樣啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:30.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:31.127000+08:00","text":"好，我們一定會嚴格來檢視這個問題……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:31.127000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:32.127000+08:00","text":"你們應該要嚴格把關啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:31.127000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:35.113000+08:00","text":"嚴格把關，不會讓這樣的事情發生。好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:36.253000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:39.574000+08:00","text":"最後一個問題，我還是要特別提到這個，要請部長幫忙。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:40.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:12:58.617000+08:00","text":"上個禮拜我特別針對機車考照的部分，有邀集交通部相關的同仁來開會討論，果不其然引起了全國很多縣市鄉親的熱烈討論，我想剛剛包含我們許多委員也有提到。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-04-15T11:12:58.677000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:13:08+08:00","text":"確實現在要上網登錄機車考照，比搶演唱會的門票還困難，部長，你知道這個情形嗎？","quality":0.706},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T11:13:08+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T11:13:26.088000+08:00","text":"報告委員，您有跟我提示過這件事，那我也有關注到說，確實我們在這兩年的提供名額有下降，那委員跟我提醒完之後，我們有請公路局來做這方面的研議，我們目前的規劃是每一天要增加10%左右的報名名額，這是第一點。","quali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