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擔心啊好 那地方政府又面對這樣子重大的虐待案罰四萬五 連安置費都要民間募款制度我想是人做的 那制度失靈也是人造成的然後你們造成的時候導致了這麼多的問題"},{"start":805.197,"end":809.526,"text":"所以我要的不是口號 是你們具體的時間表和時間謝謝主席"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}