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未來的據點會包括就是說我們會有這一個外派啦包括這個就是一些這個就是說高齡者可能比較常聚集的這些相關的 柳州啦 香港啦 鄉村啦你也要有一個店給這裡的老人家保證你常去鄉村 你不知道鄉村多忙喔"},{"start":345.255,"end":351.746,"text":"據點我們盡量去配合啦讓鄉親們方便委員在關心的就是這個啦讓鄉親大家方便這我怎麼做啦你說四月份要有data嘛要有刮症"},{"start":358.295,"end":380.032,"text":"所以這裡再問一回 有在整理的 有在做的有 我想再補充一點就是比較這個鄉下地區的部分的話一定會跟鄉公所做結合這些老人比較 這是高齡 長輩比較常聚會的場所我們就會透過陸老師然後來做處理主席 我36歲了 我問最後一個問題我很久沒來你們家了"},{"start":384.756,"end":393.302,"text":"你剛才說我們的原油百分之72是從波斯灣來我們的液態瓦斯是32%從卡達來那現在那邊都歸零那你說這些液態天然氣現在吊一船來給富人10億喔"},{"start":402.995,"end":425.79,"text":"本來我就是不關 要再給付全部 現在我們經濟部門說他掉十倍損現在是都去退掉 我都很注意這個你剛才說的那個油 未到未來 其實我不知道 那不是我報告的所以這個部門是不是 我們中油跟南元素有在一起 你要跟他們請教嗎我現在要問的就是說 你到底是去退掉"},{"start":426.804,"end":452.394,"text":"然後是多少再來就是說你現在說自己蓋燒你如果沒有蓋燒一L的957可能到四十幾坨有沒有這個事情跟文報告跟那個油的部份就是電池船從哪邊調的部分跟回答委員就是主要現在是主要從美澳那邊來然後其他還有一些別的地區的那那個油價部分我是不是請中油的那個羅副總回答"},{"start":453.087,"end":474.964,"text":"說你蓋二百六十億 三百億 還有這件事委員報告這個詢問當然是有增加起來啦但是政府也有在注意這個問題所以有一些專案融資貸款的這個部分現在政府都在協調這件事 其實台電跟電郵現在蓋二百六十億 三百億啦這個重點 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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.804000+08:00","text":"（12時）謝謝主席，我請陳部長。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.844000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.844000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:00:28.844000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:27.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:00:56.864000+08:00","text":"部長，我的時間只有4加1分鐘，所以我問你三個問題，第一個，因為屏東縣面積有2,776平方公里，你也去過好幾趟，所以大部分都是騎機車比較多，現在機車路考的考試只有屏東和恆春兩個點在考，對不對？","quality":0.588},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:56.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:01:24.628000+08:00","text":"屏東一天最多50個名額，恆春是15個，所以一個禮拜差不多兩百多個而已，很不方便，他們常常在反映，一些年輕人考駕照都要跑去高雄，部長，你知道這件事嗎？","quality":0.548},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:01:26.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:01:46.747000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這段時間針對考照的部分，從大家上網預約的狀況來看，最近提供的量確實不足，尤其是屏東，我們有特別去關注到這個問題，第一，我們希望未來能夠提高預約的名額，讓大家報名比較容易一點，才不會像現在那麼搶。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:01:47.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:01:51.630000+08:00","text":"第二，如果可以下鄉的話，像委員所說的，屏東一站，恆春一站，屏東又這麼長，一百多公里的長度，所以如果有機會可以去做下鄉考照的部分，我們儘量來協助，讓屏東的鄉親可以更加方便。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:01:51.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:02:16.515000+08:00","text":"對，因為現在年輕人在預約，他們常常在complain說比買演唱會秒殺的票更難，一天50個實在太誇張了。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:02:16.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:02:26.338000+08:00","text":"是，所以短期之內我們會要求監理站把考照的名額提高10%，全國全部都提高10%，讓大家比較容易去報名。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:02:26.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:02:27.379000+08:00","text":"只有兩個點而已，你說10%，也才多了十幾個。","quality":0.353},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:02:31.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:02:38.685000+08:00","text":"沒有，我先提高10%，後續我也希望可以讓更多人來參加，所以我們會看那個需求的比例。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:02:39.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:04.083000+08:00","text":"比如說前陣子有人在抱怨說報考率其實低，所以造成很多的空額，之前的報考率只有75%，經過我們1月份檢討完之後，現在報考率已經到97%，就是有報名的，100個有97個會來考，浪費掉的剩3個，過去是浪費掉25個，那樣太多了，我們現在把報考率提高，總額也提高。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:04.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:09.086000+08:00","text":"這樣不錯，部長你很用心，data你能馬上講出來。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:09.086000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:10.608000+08:00","text":"因為委員有在關心，我們一定要注意。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:11.228000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:13.329000+08:00","text":"好，要加強啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:13.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:14.570000+08:00","text":"讓他們能更方便。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:15.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:35.128000+08:00","text":"第二個問題是，現在70歲到74歲這個部分，你在院會回答我說你們要研究，因為屏東縣70歲到75歲有三萬八千多人，75歲到84歲有四萬多人，這三萬多人你現在是打算讓他們做體檢而已，還是還要做其他的性向測驗等等？","quality":0.655},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:35.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:03:38.611000+08:00","text":"現在有兩項，我們跟日本的制度一模一樣，日本也是這麼做，在70歲到74歲這段我們是做體檢，第一是體檢。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:03:38.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:04.150000+08:00","text":"第二，我們免費提供他們兩小時的課程，讓他瞭解新的交通規則跟新的號誌是什麼意思，因為現在的號誌和標線常常在改，有一些東西他們看不懂，我們要給他補充一下，讓他瞭解，所以這做到兩項，我們就可以給他新的駕照。","quality":0.813},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:04.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:04.851000+08:00","text":"體檢是在哪裡做？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:05.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:06.032000+08:00","text":"在醫療院所做，還是去那裡做？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:14.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:19.066000+08:00","text":"醫療院所或衛生所都可以。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:19.066000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:21.427000+08:00","text":"做完之後再拿合格的體檢報告去那裡。對。","quality":0.118},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:21.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:22.267000+08:00","text":"你們還有做一個記憶的測驗，有10項水果，那個是在……","quality":0.55},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:22.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:25.369000+08:00","text":"那是認知測驗，在日本也是一樣，認知測驗是75歲才開始做。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:25.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:27.189000+08:00","text":"認知測驗，你是比照哪一個國家？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:27.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:29.891000+08:00","text":"我是心臟外科醫生，我不知道你們這個到底是從哪裡拿來的。","quality":0.52},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:30.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:33.632000+08:00","text":"認知測驗其實是在測驗有沒有失智，在日本也是75歲開始做，我們也有跟臺灣的醫學會討論，他們也是建議75歲。","quality":0.705},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:33.632000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:34.413000+08:00","text":"所以你70到74歲有要做嗎？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:45.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:46.179000+08:00","text":"不用做認知測驗。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:46.179000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:47.179000+08:00","text":"沒有做。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:46.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:49.963000+08:00","text":"但是75歲就要做認知測驗，因為失智的風險比較高，我們要先測看看他有沒有失智的狀況。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:49.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:51.085000+08:00","text":"你們有沒有要下鄉？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:53.067000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:53.588000+08:00","text":"還是一樣要跑到屏東市？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:53.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:54.849000+08:00","text":"後來說只有屏東市一個點而已，三萬多人你叫他要怎麼去？","quality":0.417},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:54.849000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:04:55.849000+08:00","text":"大家譙到牙都歪了。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:04:55.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:05.223000+08:00","text":"我是不是請局長先回答？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:06.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:09.526000+08:00","text":"確實在屏東的部分，就是……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:09.526000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:11.528000+08:00","text":"臺南更多。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:11.528000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:22.738000+08:00","text":"就是我們屏東站跟恆春分站，我跟委員報告，75歲的部分是現行的高齡關懷換照制度。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:24.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:30.925000+08:00","text":"另外，針對即將在5月底要實施的，提前到70歲關懷的這個部分……沒錯。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:31.785000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:37.569000+08:00","text":"原則上是只有體檢跟免費的相關講習。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:38.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.546000+08:00","text":"在這一塊，我現在請各區監理所按照委員剛剛所提到的，它所轄的人數有多少，然後規劃的據點，未來的據點包括我們會有外派，包括高齡者可能比較常聚集的這些相關……","quality":0.928},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.606000+08:00","text":"潮州啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.746000+08:00","text":"東港啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.826000+08:00","text":"恆春啦！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:05:57.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:05:58.687000+08:00","text":"你也要有一個據點給這些老人，部長，你常常去恆春，你不知道恆春有多遠嗎？","quality":0.581},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:07.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:11.122000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這個據點我們儘量去配合，讓鄉親們方便，委員在關心的就是這個啦！","quality":0.781},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:11.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:11.943000+08:00","text":"讓鄉親大家方便，這個我們來做。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:12.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:20.755000+08:00","text":"好，你說4月份會有data，會有決定，所以才會再問你一次。是。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:21.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:24.638000+08:00","text":"有在規劃，有在做了嘛？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"林局長福山","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:24.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:40.591000+08:00","text":"有，我跟委員再補充一點，比較鄉下的地區一定會跟鄉公所做結合，這些高齡長輩比較常聚會的場所，我們就會透過「路老師」來做處理。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:40.591000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:41.591000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:40.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:41.592000+08:00","text":"主席，給我30秒，我問最後一個問題。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:41.592000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:42.592000+08:00","text":"還有問題？","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:41.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:41.892000+08:00","text":"我很少來你們這裡。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:06:46.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:06:55.282000+08:00","text":"部長，你剛才說我們的原油72%是從波斯灣來，我們的液態瓦斯有32%從卡達來，現在那邊都歸零，你說這些液態天然氣現在調一船就要多付人家10億，10億喔！","quality":0.82},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:04.995000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:11.019000+08:00","text":"本來多少錢不管，要再多付10億，現在經濟部長說他去調了十幾船，現在都是去哪裡調？","quality":0.529},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:12.700000+08:00","text":"我都很注意這個。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:12.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:21.946000+08:00","text":"報告委員，你剛才問油從哪裡來，其實我不知道，那不是我報告的，不過中油跟能源署在這裡，這個部分你要不要請教他們？","quality":0.51},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:22.166000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:29.484000+08:00","text":"好，來，我現在要問的是，你到底是去哪裡調，然後多多少？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:29.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:38.828000+08:00","text":"再來，你現在說自己吸收，你如果不吸收，1 liter的95無鉛汽油可能到四十幾塊，有這件事情嗎？","quality":0.564},{"speaker":"吳代理署長志偉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:43.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:48.672000+08:00","text":"有關天然氣船從哪邊調度現在主要是從美、澳那邊來。美、澳。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"吳代理署長志偉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:48.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:50.652000+08:00","text":"然後其他還有一些別的地區的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳代理署長志偉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:51.793000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:54.374000+08:00","text":"油價的部分，我是不是請中油的羅副總回答？好。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:55.087000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:07:57.749000+08:00","text":"說你們吸收260億、300億，真的有這件事情嗎？","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"羅副總經理博童","start":"2026-04-15T12:07:59.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:12.841000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，成本當然是有增加，不過政府也有在注意這個問題，所以有一些專案融資貸款的部分，現在政府都在協……","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:12.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:15.823000+08:00","text":"這些錢，像台電跟中油現在自己吸收260億啦！300億啦！","quality":0.368},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:16.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:24.972000+08:00","text":"剛才部長說將來要用公務預算來補，真的有這件事嗎？","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:26.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:29.560000+08:00","text":"就是說航空的部分，國內航線的部分我們會做這方面的補貼。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:29.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:30.522000+08:00","text":"好，那這些就沒有？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:30.522000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:31.522000+08:00","text":"對，其他的沒有。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:30.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:30.782000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:31.282000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:52.139143+08:00","text":"謝謝蘇清泉委員，不過也請交通部，像這個屏東鄉親考照問題看起來很嚴重，今天已經連續有兩位屏東的立委，徐富癸委員和蘇清泉委員都針對這一點提出質詢，應該儘快來處理。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:08:52.439143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:08:56.439143+08:00","text":"接下來我們邀請鄭天財委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}