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都可以來說那本容是這樣子因為我們每一個月拿到的衛福部的三班護病比搭票獎金是所有公立院最高的"},{"start":269.095,"end":287.112,"text":"但是現在的治療跟過去的治療不一樣龍總的床很多現在漸漸的門診化譬如說化療以前要住院現在都已經導入門診所以我們門診成長了住院降低了這樣住院降低我刻意把它降低為什麼呢可以讓我們的護理師不要那麼辛苦"},{"start":287.893,"end":303.283,"text":"而且讓病人可以降低他的指數他不用住院他不用花錢當天往返所以我們的門診這個全球的趨勢門診化是重要的那但是護理的照護品質委員你相信我應該是效能濃度最高的"},{"start":303.922,"end":307.883,"text":"OK好剛剛那個我們陳院長有提到就是這個有關於就是說對我們的住院病患人日數減少可是我們門診的這部分有增加我確實有看到這個數據有113年的部分確實是台北榮總是提高了7.77%然後屏東榮總呢雖然說他的這個"},{"start":328.968,"end":339.294,"text":"住院病患人數比預期少了百分之三十以上實際上他的這個門診病患的這個人數是增加的"},{"start":342.544,"end":365.746,"text":"跟委員報告那我是114年上任那屏東總去年的護理師進增加是68人那今年到4月為止目前我們招募護理師是100人就是截至到上個禮拜那今年有新開一個加護病房那4月份新開一個急性病房那今年會一共會再開"},{"start":366.647,"end":384.846,"text":"後面七月跟十月會各再開一個急性病房所以今年的住院人數跟預算數應該會達標那另外我們在做重度急救責任醫院的部分比期程提早了一年希望明年可以達標這樣OK好那再來呢高雄榮總要說明一下嗎"},{"start":387.136,"end":403.054,"text":"謝謝 也謝謝委員的指導那剛剛兩種的話其實醫院的收入 整體收入來講我們三家總院的現在整體收入都很持平穩定財務大家都很穩健那我們這個收入主要還是門及住那現在委員所提的是住院上面的一個情況"},{"start":403.755,"end":421.01,"text":"那目前我們高雄農種在住院情況跟其他種類都一樣都還蠻相對穩定的那這是正常的一個起伏目前在門診上面也是持續的在114年上面持續的一直往上提升那住院大概就持平情況是穩定的謝謝委員的指導所謂穩定的話是說你們唯一我看不到114年的這個"},{"start":422.971,"end":438.084,"text":"因為今天的報告好像也沒提到這麼細節的東西像高雄榮總跟屏東榮總基本上來講我在數字上看到的是沒有達到預期的標準唯一超標的我只看到的是中榮"},{"start":438.604,"end":451.676,"text":"那當然剛剛的解釋是說也許就是說以我的住院門診人數雖然少了可是我可能就是著重在門診的這個部分可以理解啦而倒是屏東對啊屏東我還是得要問一下因為像之前的話你們113年喔你們比預期少了百分之30以上其實這個是這個數字上來講的話是落差是比較大我不曉得114年這部分有沒有改善"},{"start":465.085,"end":483.026,"text":"我們114年的住院人數有快速增加我們的總醫療收入是增加5.3億醫療收入來自於門診病患增加跟住院人數增加所以目前整個招收護理師的情況都相當的不錯"},{"start":483.667,"end":506.763,"text":"所以到目前為止都是在護理師的招聘這部分是順利的是不是目前來講的話因為之前我看到審計報告是說因為我們醫護人力不足才會造成目前所看到的這個榮總的住院變化人數是少的原因是因為來自於這裡所以目前都有補足是不是各個我們各個榮總體系都有補足這部分是不是"},{"start":508.075,"end":520.516,"text":"報告委員113年應該是護理師不夠導致各病房的收支率沒有辦法滿載那目前護理師都不僅遭受順利而且都逐漸在增開新病房"},{"start":520.987,"end":537.314,"text":"OK 好 謝謝因為時間的關係因為我覺得我們榮總一直都是我們醫療體系的這個標杆那當然我們看到數據上有一些落差的時候會來想了解到底是發生什麼事情那我們當然是希望能夠更好OK 好 以上謝謝謝謝委員指導"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:29:39.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:29:39.391000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:29:39.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:29:49.962000+08:00","text":"有請嚴主委，還有榮總幾位院長──北榮陳院長、中榮傅院長，還有高雄榮總陳院長、屏東榮總王院長。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T09:29:49.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:29:49.983000+08:00","text":"羅委員早。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:29:54.546000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:29:55.326000+08:00","text":"主委早安。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:29:55.906000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:30:32.222000+08:00","text":"首先我要先肯定北榮，因為上次本席在這裡針對有關新住民門診諮詢專線這部分，我們說應該要清楚的標示、顯示在我們的網頁，本席一下質詢臺，北榮當天馬上就做調整，所以予以肯定，我看到除了英文版之外還有越南版，當然如果加上印尼版會更好，因為不管是新住民也好，或是外籍移工，其實越南跟印尼人數是居多的。","quality":0.992},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:30:33.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:05.798000+08:00","text":"其實當天我不只有要求北榮，那時候我有要求各個榮總醫院都要比照辦理，目前我所看到只有北榮有專線的顯示，我覺得專線顯示其實很重要，對於移工也好，或者是新住民也好，在網頁近用性來講，其實是加強非常多，所以本席希望這部分其他榮總體系都可以設置新住民諮詢的專頁。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:05.918000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:11.860000+08:00","text":"我看陳院長已經站在這裡，準備要針對這部分來回答，這部分，你要再加強說明一下嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:12.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:15.837000+08:00","text":"真的非常謝謝委員，當天你的指示，我們就馬上做了。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:16.639000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:19.127000+08:00","text":"你剛才的指示說加上印尼文，今天下午就做好。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:19.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:22.369000+08:00","text":"今天下午就做好，所以表示要做的話，其實是很快的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:22.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:26.031000+08:00","text":"今天下午就做好，如果委員還有需要什麼語言再交代一下。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:26.292000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:27.873000+08:00","text":"是，這部分的話……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:27.873000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:32.476000+08:00","text":"但是我們都是兄弟醫院，我們一條心，我們做，他們都會一起做。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:33.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:44.665000+08:00","text":"我是想說一定要比照辦理，因為當天一下質詢臺就可以馬上處理，我想這個門檻沒有很高，所以其他的院所應該要比照辦理，關於這部分今天要肯定北榮，謝謝，我希望……","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:44.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:45.306000+08:00","text":"北榮是龍頭，其他榮民醫院都會效仿。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:31:45.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:31:46.988000+08:00","text":"是，我希望下次我再進入到各個醫院網站的時候，都可以看到類似的網頁專線。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:32:01.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:32:47.629000+08:00","text":"再來，也是跟榮總有關係的，我看到了審計部的審計報告，我本來想說可以拿到114年的資料，可是目前還沒有出來，我現在看到的是113年各榮總住院病患的人日數，我們可以看到各榮總整體實際的人日數是比預期少了7.01%，就是減少了25萬人，我看到裡面的資料有提到，北榮是因為玉里、鳳林、臺東分院及屏東榮總醫事人力不足，所以導致住院人日數減少，這個我們可以理解。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:32:47.989000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:06.766000+08:00","text":"可是很有趣的是，整個數據上來看，我們看到中榮居然是增加的，它的住院病患人日數是比預期增加了3萬6,555人，我反而要問中榮怎麼做得到？","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:07.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:18.434000+08:00","text":"因為其他的都有面臨醫事人力不足的問題，我看到屏東榮總甚至比原來預期的少了30%以上，中榮怎麼做到的？","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:19.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:21.035000+08:00","text":"為什麼您的數字是比預期增加的？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:21.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:33.564000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，主委給我們的指導就是要照顧好我們的醫護同仁，我們目前各項福利措施還不錯，目前並沒有人力短缺的問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:33.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:52.539000+08:00","text":"3月30號我們還得到衛福部友善護理職場認證醫學中心典範獎，我們目前沒有任何的護理或者其他醫事人員短缺的問題，所以我們可以繼續照開，而且我們可能口碑還不錯，所以服務量能一直成長，以上報告。所以……","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:52.699000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:56.203000+08:00","text":"報告委員，可以容我說幾句話嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:56.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:33:57.204000+08:00","text":"好，都可以說。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:33:57.865000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:34:22.850000+08:00","text":"北榮是這樣子，因為我們每個月拿到衛福部的三班護病比達標獎金是所有公立醫院最高的，但是現在的治療跟過去的治療不一樣，榮總的床很多，現在已經漸漸的門診化，譬如說化療以前要住院，現在都已經導入門診，所以我們門診成長了，住院降低了，我刻意把住院降低降低，為什麼呢？","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"陳院長威明","start":"2026-04-22T09:34:23.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:34:41.263000+08:00","text":"因為可以讓我們的護理師不要那麼辛苦，而且讓病人可以降低他的支出，他不用住院，他不用花錢，當天往返，所以我們的門診……這是全球的趨勢，門診化是重要的，但是護理的照護品質，委員，你相信我，應該是最高的。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:34:42.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:35:17.274000+08:00","text":"剛剛陳院長有提到，我們的住院病患人日數減少，可是門診的部分有增加，我確實有看到這個數據，113年臺北榮總提高了7.77%；屏東榮總雖然住院病患人日數比預期少了30%以上，事實上，其門診病患的人數是增加的。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T09:35:17.274000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T09:35:20.544000+08:00","text":"委員，屏東榮總跟您報告一下。是。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王院長瑞祥","start":"2026-04-22T09:35:20.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:35:51.995000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我是114年上任，屏東榮總去年護理師淨增加68人，今年截至4月上個禮拜為止，我們招募的護理師是100人，今年有新開1個加護病房，4月份新開1個急性病房，今年7月跟10月會各再開1個急性病房，所以今年的住院人日數跟預算數應該會達標。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"王院長瑞祥","start":"2026-04-22T09:35:52.155000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:00.043000+08:00","text":"另外，我們在做重度急救責任醫院的部分比期程提早了1年，希望明年可以達標。OK。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:00.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:02.846000+08:00","text":"再來，高雄榮總要說明一下嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:05.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:06.658000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的指導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:07.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:13.966000+08:00","text":"高雄榮總醫院整體收入來講，3家總院現在整體收入都很持平、穩定，財務大概都很穩健。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:14.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:21.054000+08:00","text":"我們的收入主要還是門、急、住，現在委員所提點的是住院上面的情況。是。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:21.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:28+08:00","text":"目前我們高雄榮總的住院情況跟其他總醫一樣，都還滿相對穩定的，這是正常的起伏。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:28.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:34.826000+08:00","text":"目前在門診上面，114年也持續一直往上提升；住院的部分大概就持平，情況是穩定的。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"陳院長金順","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:35.307000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:36.407000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的指導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:36.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:36:56.084000+08:00","text":"所謂穩定的話，是說你們……因為我看不到114年的資料，我們看到今天的報告好像也沒提到這麼細節的東西，像高雄榮總跟屏東榮總，基本上來講，我在數字上看到的是沒有達到預期標準，唯一超標的我只看到中榮。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:36:56.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:37:05.853000+08:00","text":"當然，剛剛的解釋是也許住院人數雖然少了，可是可能著重在門診的部分，這個可以理解。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:37:06.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:37:09.656000+08:00","text":"倒是屏東榮總，我還是得要問一下，因為之前113年你們比預期少了30%以上，數字上算是落差比較大，我不曉得114年這部分有沒有改善？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"王院長瑞祥","start":"2026-04-22T09:37:23.085000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:37:41.026000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們114年的住院人日數有快速增加，總醫療收入增加5.3億，醫療收入來自於門診病患增加跟住院人日數增加，所以目前整個招收護理師的情況都相當不錯。","quality":0.91},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:37:41.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:37:46.270000+08:00","text":"所以到目前為止在護理師招聘這部分是順利的，是不是？是。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:37:47.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:37:59.639000+08:00","text":"之前我看到審計報告指出因為醫護人力不足，才會造成目前看到榮總住院病患人日數是少的，原因是來自於這裡。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:37:59.639000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:01.340000+08:00","text":"所以目前都有補足，是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:02.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:04.743000+08:00","text":"各個榮總體系都有補足這部分，是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王院長瑞祥","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:06.075000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:18.496000+08:00","text":"報告委員，113年應該是護理師不夠，導致各病房的收治率沒有辦法滿載，目前不僅護理師招收順利，而且都逐漸在增開新病房。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:19.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:20.448000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:20.448000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:21.688000+08:00","text":"因為時間的關係，就到此為止。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:21.688000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:34.113000+08:00","text":"我覺得榮總一直都是我們醫療體系的標竿，所以當我們看到數據上有一些落差的時候，會想了解到底發生什麼事情，我們當然是希望好能夠更好。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"羅委員美玲","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:34.233000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:35.074000+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:35.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:35.314000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員指導。謝謝。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:35.814000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:37.242571+08:00","text":"謝謝羅委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T09:38:37.542571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T09:38:39.828286+08:00","te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