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我們不能排除啦 我不能排除說他最可能性但是這個可能性很高啦 因為 市長 本市是怎麼來的因為我們要去用 因為他現在都用民間的村 跟在那裡走他有夠 公衛有夠好笑的 他說就是沒有一樣的氣氛沒有一樣的季節 所以他們要這麼多年來"},{"start":277.57,"end":288.892,"text":"如果他們的錢都用民間的錢 我們都沒辦法對他怎麼樣但是如果有一天他的錢不是民間的錢他要開始想辦法賺錢的時候 他吃了啦所以本身是怎樣的 很多不公平的不公平派"},{"start":303.015,"end":309.8,"text":"因為支持你們可以再多一個副主席因為你看 大家也沒有要戰爭 大家也沒有要害怕他不夠長久以來 你看一年一年 一個月一個月中國對台灣的壓迫"},{"start":324.692,"end":331.66,"text":"在那個海上這樣走啦,在灰色地帶造成我們海巡署,我們這裡的影子,還要多大"},{"start":335.225,"end":354.686,"text":"署長,你知道阿伯有多大嗎?因為他是要保護中華民國,他們還要做的工作,還要做很多的招輸、阿愛、大韓國他們要做,他們還要當一個界別的派出兵,天天又要來亂"},{"start":356.877,"end":361.201,"text":"市長,我問問,我們選一個副市長出來,不是說選一個給我選漂亮的我也知道有很多人,跟你剛才有分析,說他能夠做什麼他能夠跟第一、第二的副市長有重疊性,會做什麼?剛才我聽到你說這樣"},{"start":381.508,"end":388.293,"text":"我剛才跟委員報告,我們現在三個,如果增加一個副書長來,我們的藥物再重新分配,就是說不要說每一個副書長的負擔這麼大,那負擔這麼大的情形啊,他會越來越專業,做得越好,這是我們的問題因為剛才我不知道是你說了有差,還是我聽了有差,你說可以再重提性的做好,我覺得這樣就沒差,這個第三個副書長啦"},{"start":410.731,"end":415.975,"text":"在這個過程 剛才本席跟你說這個準在那裡的時候 你們也看到他的打壓 除了要說要和平啦跟實際都不一樣要和平啦像我們中共要出國的時候 還要這樣打壓啦所有說的一套 做的一套 不能相信中國對台灣的優先啦 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謝謝王美"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.766000+08:00","text":"主席，有請副主委。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.946000+08:00","text":"請張副主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.946000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T09:58:27.946000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.966000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:58:26.986000+08:00","text":"副主委早。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:27.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:58:59.339000+08:00","text":"今天我們要討論海巡署組織法，其中要多設置一位副署長，在這個過程當中，我們可以看得出來海巡署的第一線弟兄長久以來承受很大的壓力，我相信你們也有感受到壓力愈來愈大。","quality":0.653},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:58:59.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:59:15.385000+08:00","text":"剛才有好幾位立委同仁提到，包括4月16日和上個月都發生了很多事情，中國大陸一旦逮到機會就會矮化中華民國臺灣。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:59:15.505000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:59:35.699000+08:00","text":"老實說，就像剛才副主委所說的，海上救人不分你我，也不分哪一個國家，但偏偏就是有那種國家，明明不是他第一個去救援，他卻要說是他第一個去救援，哪有人在海上救人的時候，常常說他是第一個去救援的？","quality":0.612},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T09:59:35.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T09:59:36.639000+08:00","text":"老實說，在海上救人的時候，我們能救一個算一個，不分是哪一個國家。","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:02.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:05.810000+08:00","text":"在這裡我想要向副主委請教一下，在4月16日的相關過程當中，有6個船員獲救，但是船長現在的狀況是怎麼樣？","quality":0.488},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:05.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:06.851000+08:00","text":"請問副主委，你知道嗎？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:23.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:25.733000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，第一時間是我們在旁邊作業的漁船全漁36號把他們救起來……對啊！","quality":0.581},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:25.834000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:25.974000+08:00","text":"我是說你知道現在那個……","quality":0.3},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:26.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:28.395000+08:00","text":"現在就是那位船長到目前為止還是失蹤。對啊！","quality":0.632},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:28.535000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:00:53.509000+08:00","text":"我覺得不用強調是誰救的，也不用說是誰第一個去救援，現在船長還在失蹤，我們看看能不能把這個人救回來，不過時間漸漸逼近，我們要考量救人的黃金時間，所以我也希望在國際上，中國不要常常吃中華民國臺灣的豆腐，老實說，沒有人會這樣。","quality":0.57},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:00:53.649000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:20.039000+08:00","text":"上個月外國的媒體也有提到海上長城，請問副主委有聽過這句話嗎？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:20.039000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:21.039000+08:00","text":"紐約時報有報導。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:20.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:20.139000+08:00","text":"你是不是覺得很好笑？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:20.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:22.841000+08:00","text":"海上長城，大家聽起來都覺得莫名其妙，海上的長城是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:23.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:39.208000+08:00","text":"請問副主委知道海上長城的意思是什麼嗎？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:39.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:01:59.061000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，紐約時報報導過三篇，他的邏輯和思想都差不多一樣，就是說大陸有能力動員四千多艘的漁船來包圍，他的概念就是這樣。對。","quality":0.732},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:01:59.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:02:20.335000+08:00","text":"但是依照我們所有的研究，包括日本等等，他認為他是在避風，而且那個地方本來就是大陸的傳統作業漁區，包括後面另外一份報告有寫到沖繩那部分，在那個地方也有一千多艘的大陸漁船，那也是傳統大陸漁船會去作業的地方。","quality":0.713},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:02:20.936000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:02:26.979000+08:00","text":"所以我們認為大陸有可能這樣做，我們不能排除這種可能性，但是這種可能性很低。","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:02:26.979000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:02:27.979000+08:00","text":"為什麼本席會提出這個問題？","quality":0.167},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:02:27.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:02:29.140000+08:00","text":"因為我們必須預防，現在他們都讓民間的船在那邊行駛，然後他們說話有夠好笑，他們說就是有不一樣的魚、不一樣的季節，所以他們才要開那麼多船過來。","quality":0.603},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:02:49.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:02:55.571000+08:00","text":"如果他們開過來的都是民間的船，其實我們沒有辦法對他怎樣，但如果有一天他們的船不是民間的船，然後開始要在那邊打仗的時候，那就比較吃力了。","quality":0.613},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:02:57.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:03:18.598000+08:00","text":"副主委，這就是為什麼許多不同黨派的委員都支持你們可以再多一位副署長，因為包括你我在內，大家都不喜歡戰爭，也不喜歡打仗。","quality":0.426},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:03:18.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:03:43.640000+08:00","text":"不過長久以來，你看中國年年月月對臺灣施加壓力，他們的船在海上的灰色地帶行駛，造成海巡署這些弟兄的壓力有多大！","quality":0.56},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:03:48.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:03:51.009000+08:00","text":"副主委，你知道他們的壓力有多大嗎？","quality":0.467},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:03:51.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:04:06.686000+08:00","text":"因為他們要保護中華民國，他們要做的工作還有很多，走私也要管，每一樣他們都要做，然後又遇到一個隔壁壞鄰居常常來亂。","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:04:08.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:04:12.921000+08:00","text":"副主委，我希望我們多一個副署長出來，不是多一個人領薪水，我也知道工作很多，你剛剛有分析說他可以再做什麼，可以跟第一個、第二個副署長有重疊性的做法，是嗎？","quality":0.603},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:04:13.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:04:13.201000+08:00","text":"剛剛我有聽到你這樣說。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-04-22T10:04:33.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:04:37.892000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，我們如果增加一個副署長，我們會把業務重新分配，不要讓每一個副署長的負擔那麼大，在負擔沒有那麼大的情形下，他會越來越專業，做得越好，這是我們的目的。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:04:37.992000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:04:40.273000+08:00","text":"對啦，因為剛剛不知道是你說的有誤差，還是我聽的有誤差，你說可以再重疊性地做，我覺得這樣就枉費多第三個副署長。是。","quality":0.72},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:05:02.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:05:06.133000+08:00","text":"在這個過程，剛剛本席跟你說，這個船在那邊，你也有看到他的打壓，嘴巴說要和平，實際是都沒有要和平，連我們總統要出國還這樣打壓！","quality":0.782},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-04-22T10:05:06.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:05:07.955000+08:00","text":"說一套，做一套，不要相信中國對臺灣的友善。以上。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:05:32.117000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:05:32.137000+08:00","text":"謝謝王美惠委員的詢答。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:05:32.637000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:05:36.065571+08:00","text":"接下來有請林倩綺委員詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}