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因為我在想說就是連結到上一個問題就是說如果這個舒轉計畫執行成效可以越來越好的話那剛剛講的地方政府要委託啊等等之類因為你要抓那個比例嘛你也不能夠讓它爆掉"},{"start":371.871,"end":386.447,"text":"這個時候能夠接受地方的委託安置的量能一定又可以再往上提升所以這個舒轉計畫可能就再拜託我們再來盯一下這個狀況剛剛鐘榮那個狀況預算中心那個數字到底是如何這個可能再了解一下了解一下謝謝主委謝謝主席謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:15.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:16.144000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:16.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:17.385000+08:00","text":"有請嚴主委，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:18.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:18.485000+08:00","text":"請嚴主委。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:18.485000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:26.129000+08:00","text":"沈委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:26.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:26.409000+08:00","text":"主委好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:28.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:44.538000+08:00","text":"在預算之前，我有一個小問題想問，因為近幾年有韌性醫療整備，榮總體系韌性醫療整備目前準備的狀況大概到什麼程度，是不是可以跟國人說明一下？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:19:45.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:19:59.086000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們各榮院主要是依全民防衛動員準備法來做這件事情，包括醫政、藥政，還有傳染病防治以及國軍醫療，就軍醫局主責的這些動員準備。","quality":0.492},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:20:03.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:20:27.889000+08:00","text":"這些準備包含了藥政動員準備計畫，都按照相關管制辦法來做，包含儲備25項藥品、70項衛材1,350份，這裡面17項重要藥品及13項衛材是由三個榮總從110年開始，他們就額外增加儲備，共計是2萬5,000人份。","quality":0.474},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:20:28.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:20:38.494000+08:00","text":"平時藥品跟衛材是維持兩到三週的庫存量，一到三級管制藥品是維持一個月的庫存量。","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:20:39.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:20:49.660000+08:00","text":"作戰的時候，戰時是按照衛福部及各縣市衛生局調配來持續調整，這是我們防衛韌性的整備。謝謝。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:20:49.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:20:52.681000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是很重要的，所以先跟國人說明一下。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:20:53.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:18.921000+08:00","text":"現在我就進入到一些比較預算細節的部分，第一個，目前來講，我看中榮執行率在113年的時候看起來也有不到九成的狀況，但是不知道為什麼114年的執行率是6.22%，我在想是否為資料上的錯誤？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:19.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:29.755000+08:00","text":"是不是請中榮說明一下，就是2025年到8月為止，中榮的執行率是不是有什麼東西沒有寄到預算中心呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:30.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:32.977000+08:00","text":"還是說……","quality":1},{"speaker":"傅院長雲慶","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:32.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:46.326000+08:00","text":"對不起，我們一直在積極推動智慧醫療，而且投入很多資金，但是決算金額的計算，我看起來確實覺得比較奇怪一點。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:46.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:52.810000+08:00","text":"對，因為北榮大概五成九，高雄榮總有到八成多，中榮為什麼會到6.22%？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:52.810000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:53.810000+08:00","text":"我們再了解。","quality":0},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:52.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:21:56.993000+08:00","text":"在預算中心的資料是不是可以了解一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:21:57.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:22:05.021000+08:00","text":"因為我想有沒有可能是資料錯誤，或者什麼等等之類的，之後我再繼續追問這一題，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:22:05.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:22:27.958000+08:00","text":"好，接下來我想問榮家床位的問題，目前來講，除了一般照護之外，也有接受地方委託安置，去年度一直到8月底為止，接受地方委託安置的服務量，比前幾年有稍稍減少。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:22:29.659000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:22:39.645000+08:00","text":"照理以整個臺灣來講，目前長照等等的需求是一直往上升，我想知道接受地方委託安置有稍微減少，是不是有什麼特殊原因？","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:22:41.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:22:49.536000+08:00","text":"照理說榮家的量能應該是有的，為什麼是地方委託安置的量變少了，還是有什麼其他的原因？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳處長相寶","start":"2026-04-22T10:22:52.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:22:54.184000+08:00","text":"委員好，我是就養處處長。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"陳處長相寶","start":"2026-04-22T10:22:54.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:23:16.857000+08:00","text":"跟您回報，我們16所榮家的總床位是8,875床，目前總占床率是80.41%，一般民眾資源共享的部分，從106年開放一般民眾是5%，現在已經提升到21%以上，所以目前在……","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:23:17.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:23:19.819000+08:00","text":"占比是增加的，但是量看起來減少，不知道為什麼會這樣子？","quality":1},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:23:24.148000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:23:37.497000+08:00","text":"因為占比是它占所有的比例，這個比例逐步增加是好事，因為畢竟一般民眾有這樣的需求，現在榮家也有這樣的資源，但為什麼地方政府委託安置的量有減少？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳處長相寶","start":"2026-04-22T10:23:41.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:23:52.252000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們跟地方政府臨托的部分是緊急安置，我們總共有321床，只要地方政府有緊急需要的時候，我們絕對開放床位、是給的。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:23:55.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:24:10.545000+08:00","text":"也有可能這幾年地方政府可能有其他的管道或什麼之類的，這個我們不知道，但是我想可能要稍微釐清一下，畢竟榮家的資源在這邊，除了原本的服務之外，讓人民也都可以享受，我覺得這是很重要的一件事。","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:24:10.966000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:24:12.887000+08:00","text":"就是有控制一些緊急安置的床位。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:24:14.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:24:31.139000+08:00","text":"另外剛剛有提到，因為剛剛說大概占八成左右，但是如果把它拆開來看的話，可以看到有一些占床率可以到九成，你看臺北榮家大概是六成，這當然可能跟位置有點關係，就是不同的位置可能有不同的占床率。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:24:31.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:24:39.185000+08:00","text":"目前看到你們報告裡面有講疏轉計畫，畢竟有些地方的占床率比較低，此疏轉計畫目前執行的狀況如何？","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:24:44.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:03.363000+08:00","text":"報告委員，像圖表所列到的都會區板橋榮家或者臺南榮家，這些占床率都比較高，候住的人很多，我們現在採取一些措施怎麼樣去疏轉，希望他們在鄰近的榮家先去住，將來他希望住的榮家如果有空床缺，他就優先進來，這樣來疏轉、做調節。","quality":0.804},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:03.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:13.428000+08:00","text":"像臺南榮家，他可以到白河；如果板橋榮家可以到臺北榮家，像這樣子來做疏轉、調節，現在目前採取這個策略。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:15.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:35.241000+08:00","text":"連結到上一個問題，如果這個疏轉計畫執行成效可以越來越好的話，剛剛講的地方政府要委託等等之類，因為你要抓那個比例，你也不能夠讓它爆掉，到時候接受地方委託安置的量能一定又可以再往上提升，所以這個疏轉計畫可能就再拜託盯一下這個狀況。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:35.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:38.745000+08:00","text":"剛剛預算中心的那個中榮數字到底是如何，這個可能再了解一下。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"嚴主任委員德發","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:38.905000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:39.305000+08:00","text":"好，再了解一下，謝謝委員指導。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"沈委員伯洋","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:39.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:40.186000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委、謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:40.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:40.447000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:40.947000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:51.232714+08:00","text":"目前收到臨時提案共1案，待會在黃建賓委員質詢結束後進行處理，處理完畢後休息10分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T10:25:51.532714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T10:25:54.104143+08:00","text":"接下來請林楚茵委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}