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那本席想要特別關注的狀態是因為油電糖水他們現在大部分的公司本來也都有無人機本來就有在無人機他們如果是營業上面使用的時候他們用他們自己本身的經費我覺得也可以不一定是要經濟部買了之後"},{"start":392.864,"end":417.723,"text":"當聖誕老人再發給這油電糖水這四大公司針對這個部分我希望說我們基部能夠特別考量一下因為如果說是用這樣子的方式給的時候我個人覺得並沒有特別的一個妥適當然我們對於無人機產業是支持的我們也覺得台灣很有機會發展無人機產業可是用這樣的方式來給就是油電糖水"},{"start":418.123,"end":424.317,"text":"他們這樣的一個爭執的一個方式本心覺得不太需要那麼也不是那麼的適合好不好"},{"start":425.843,"end":452.536,"text":"因為我們也不是白給他啦就是說因為我們別列預算總是要有用途那用途的話等於是我們這筆錢是對於油電糖水的部分完全理解啦因為油電糖水這千億級的公司當中的時候他們自己用他們的一個營業的經費就足以去買這些無人機那我另外要特別問的狀態是因為它是非軍用的無人機那現在我們這些"},{"start":453.837,"end":483.137,"text":"油電糖水他們要採購的無人機有沒有特別要求去中化去中化的標準到哪些是百分之百的去中化零組件都不行還是一個什麼樣的狀態基本上是要要求是非紅的全部百分之百所有的零組件都不行沒有他有階段性的就是說這應該在2027年2011應該是我記得啦不是2027年或2028年之前因為有一些東西因為比如說"},{"start":484.657,"end":500.825,"text":"牽涉到磁鐵因為中國還是掌握大部分那那個部分因為不涉及到資訊安全的問題那那個部分可以在短時間裡面還是有針對這個部分的時候我之後再給本席一個很詳細的一個標準跟進程"},{"start":501.445,"end":522.654,"text":"因為我們經濟部這邊採購的部分它基本上是非軍用的部分那我們在想說我們的標準在哪裡然後在現階段當中的時候要如何逐步的去排除非紅供應鏈的問題因為目前有很多的部分感覺上是排除不了所以我們也很希望知道說那經濟部作為一個整個無人機產業的一個主管單位的時候"},{"start":523.974,"end":552.176,"text":"那麼他是怎麼樣來看待這件事情最後一個部分我想問一個狀態因為零四就是四月四號的時候有一個大水就是大水的部分那水利署這邊有特別提到就是84%的地方在兩小時之內就退了那我想知道的狀態是那另外16%的地方有86個點16%的地方是哪些地方他沒有退那是什麼原因"},{"start":553.622,"end":579.743,"text":"報告委員確實有一些地點有一些淹了比較長時間尤其像苗栗像苗栗的一個後龍溪的支流沙河溪因為它那邊有些護岸跟橋樑的問題那這個也是縣政府跟我們會共同來努力改善OK喔那我特別想要關注一個狀態喔你到時候你再給我很詳細知道說這百分之有大概都在苗栗還是還有其他的地方新竹這邊有沒有相關的部分"},{"start":580.424,"end":606.481,"text":"那我另外想要特別追就是因為我們在我們有五項延續性的計劃啦那麼到114年7月份為止的時候我質詢力都不好可是它只到去年7月因為統計數字只有到7月那在五項計劃當中的時候包括離島地區供水改善計劃第三期那吳志達水地區供水改善計劃第五期那麼接下來第三項的中央管流域整體改善與調適計劃"},{"start":607.882,"end":629.298,"text":"這個部分就跟淹水這部分有很大的關係那它的那個執行率情況都不高那麼第四個水災的智慧防災計畫第二期這也跟我們這次淹水有相關比較大的地方那實現率也都不高那地下水保育管理及地層下限防治計畫第四期這部分這五個都是跨年度的一個"},{"start":630.599,"end":655.302,"text":"執行的狀態那我們看到去年的狀態似乎執行率都不好還是說到年底他已經很明顯的提高了報告委員這一些計畫主要的特性都是補助地方政府那我們的水利的工作他的一個特性都是一些工程到最後結算他才會一次性的給付所以依照過去經驗我們都可以達到95%以上沒有好那這樣很好喔"},{"start":657.003,"end":678.779,"text":"那我想說我另外特別關注一下就是有關於新竹市在113年度前瞻預算我看到這個數字當中的時候坦白說新竹市在整體來說職權力已經是好的了可是因為它畢竟離百分之百還有一些距離所以本席也想特別知道新竹市的一個詳細的狀態"},{"start":681.2,"end":697.886,"text":"因為68.57的一個執行率的一個治理的一個百分比在全國來說已經算是前段班了可是我們好還希望更好所以針對新竹市這邊為什麼沒有辦法達成就是更好的一個數字在請最水屬之後到本辦公室給"},{"start":698.806,"end":707.839,"text":"本席一個很詳細的一個狀態然後新竹市這邊還有哪些地方要特別去處理就是請這邊也給我一個本席詳細的內容我們會照辦沒問題謝謝委員好 謝謝部長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:07.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:02:09.259000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我想請一下經濟部龔明鑫部長。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:09.259000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:02:12.844000+08:00","text":"請龔部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:12.844000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:02:16.429000+08:00","text":"鄭委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:16.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:02:16.730000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:17.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:02:28.695000+08:00","text":"因為我們現在在處理經濟部的預算問題，所以我想先關心一個部分，就是我們之前一直很關心的媒宣費，從去年關心到現在。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:02:29.775000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:03:09.641000+08:00","text":"我覺得比較有趣的一點是，有關今（115）年的預算數，整個經濟部就是比114年的決算數多了47%，整體來說多了47%，可是經濟部部本部增加了134%，這比例非常、非常高；另外，中小及新創企業署增加135%、智慧財產局增加142%，這些都是超過百分之百增加率的部分，我特別挑出來。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:03:10.122000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:03:16.937000+08:00","text":"我當然要問一下部長，為什麼這幾個單位的增加數量會這麼多？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:03:17.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:03:40.187000+08:00","text":"我同時提出幾個單位的預算數是比114年的法定預算數減少，包括國貿署少了57%、能源署少了64%、產業園區管理局少了76%。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:03:40.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:03:58.112000+08:00","text":"當經濟部是這樣一個大的單位的時候，有些單位可以把這部分控制得很好，而且還進一步的減少，可是部本部及相關單位是成長到百分之百以上，這是怎麼一回事，可不可以請部長做個回應？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:03:58.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:03:58.933000+08:00","text":"我是不是請會計處說明一下？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"王處長雅玲","start":"2026-04-22T11:04:01.637000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:04:03.639000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心，我這邊補充說明一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王處長雅玲","start":"2026-04-22T11:04:04.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:04:25.478000+08:00","text":"關於經濟部的部分，媒宣業務費增加的主要原因是，包括像經濟部是增加了589萬，那是科技專案計畫，因為要用於推廣科技專案的研發成果並擴散效益，另外我們要宣傳政府的重大產業政策及掌握政策資訊，所以部裡面增加了大概589萬。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:04:28.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:04:47.481000+08:00","text":"理解，你們說這部分的時候我可以理解，就是有些部分你們可能要增加，可是增加到134%、135%、142%，我覺得其實已經有一些不合理，我們在審預算的時候會特別提到，也會特別關注這個部分。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:04:48.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:05:07.861000+08:00","text":"我們希望該用則用，不該用的部分一定要減下來，就像我剛剛特別提到的，有很多單位也都減少下來，像產業園區管理局、能源署也都節省下來，就是一個很好的狀態，我們希望當用則用，不當用的時候，我們一毛錢都不能夠讓他隨便亂用。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:05:10.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:05:20.628000+08:00","text":"報告委員，比如中小及新創企業署，因為他是負責中小微的發展，所以他的宣傳力道要有，尤其是我們中小微振興發展方案……","quality":0.56},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:05:20.628000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:05:27.691000+08:00","text":"理解，這都沒有問題，可是增加135%，我覺得還是很多，所以我們到時候會嚴格把關。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:05:27.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:05:55.786000+08:00","text":"我接下來還想問一個部分，就是我們看經濟部的預算當中，在營業基金部分有一個地方是1億2,700萬，金額不大，可是它很特殊，因為它直接新增國庫增資台電、中油、台糖、台水，而且指定用途是在買無人機。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:05:58.268000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:06:54.270000+08:00","text":"我很疑惑，因為油、電、糖、水這四大公司都是千億級以上的規模，買無人機的部分，我們覺得該買也很好，即使經濟部有一個大方向，覺得要發展臺灣的無人機產業鏈，我們覺得要支持，本席也支持，可是為什麼對於油、電、糖、水四大千億級以上的公司，增資的部分是350萬、880萬、一千多萬及八千多萬，以金額來說都很少，而且指定用途在買無人機，如果油、電、糖、水四大公司要用無人機來增加他們運作上面的一些效率，本席也支持，可是為什麼是用增資的方式，可不可以請部長做個說明？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:06:54.890000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:06:58.672000+08:00","text":"因為他是投入一個設備……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:06:58.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:07:02.313000+08:00","text":"投入設備就要用增資的方式給，然後這麼少的金額？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:07:02.313000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:07:13.480000+08:00","text":"所以油、電、糖、水四個都已經有開過董事會，通過要增加350萬、880萬這樣子規模的增資案嗎？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:07:13.480000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:07:21.505000+08:00","text":"如果是因為虧損的狀態，之前我們看到的狀態都是希望有幾百億、上千億增資案的情況。","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:07:21.505000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:07:42.421000+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為經濟部負責整個無人機的統籌型計畫，這個統籌型計畫就有編列一個預算給經濟部，經濟部當然採買以後是給油、電、糖、水各公司來使用，如巡檢等等的一些情況，但不是免費補助給他用，等於是我們投資他增加了。","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:07:44.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:08:09.889000+08:00","text":"我理解這個狀態，比方補助給他們一個東西，這個也相對可以理解，因為用增資這個狀態的時候，最主要是油、電、糖、水的規模太大，你給他們的無人機是經濟部採購之後給他們的狀態，所以用增資的方式去解決程序上的問題，是這樣的一個情況嗎？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:08:10.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:08:11.090000+08:00","text":"是，不是無償的。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:08:11.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:08:31.647000+08:00","text":"OK，本席想要特別關注的狀態是因為油、電、糖、水現在大部分的公司本來也都有無人機，他們如果是營業上面使用的時候，他們用自己本身的經費，我覺得也可以，不一定要經濟部買了之後，當聖誕老人再發給油、電、糖、水這四大公司。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:08:32.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:08:44.116000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分，我希望經濟部能夠特別考量一下，因為如果是用這樣子的方式給的時候，我個人覺得並沒有特別妥適。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:08:44.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:00.297000+08:00","text":"當然我們對無人機產業是支持的，我們也覺得臺灣很有機會發展無人機產業，可是用增資的方式給油、電、糖、水，本席覺得不太需要，也不是那麼適合，好不好？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:02.503000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:11.268000+08:00","text":"我們也不是白給他們，因為我們編列預算總是要有用途，而用途的話，等於我們這筆錢是對於油、電、糖、水的部分，我們增加了……","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:11.448000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:22.353000+08:00","text":"完全理解，因為油、電、糖、水是千億級的公司，他們用自己的營業經費就足以去買這些無人機。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:22.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:34.920000+08:00","text":"我另外要特別問的狀態是，因為它是非軍用的無人機，現在油、電、糖、水要採購的無人機有沒有特別要求去中化？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:35.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:36.962000+08:00","text":"去中化的標準到哪些？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:37.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:42.425000+08:00","text":"是百分之百的去中化，零組件都不行，還是一個什麼樣的狀態？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:42.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:44.267000+08:00","text":"基本上是要求非紅的供應鏈。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:44.767000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:45.688000+08:00","text":"全部、百分之百？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:46.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:09:47.409000+08:00","text":"所有的零組件都不行？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T11:09:47.849000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:10:10.782000+08:00","text":"沒有，它有階段性的，我記得應該在2027年或2028年之前，因為有一些東西比如牽涉到磁鐵，由於中國還是掌握大部分，那個部分因為不涉及到資訊安全的問題，那部分可以在短時間裡面還是有……","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:10:12.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:10:41.816000+08:00","text":"OK，針對這個部分，之後再給本席一個很詳細的標準跟進程，因為經濟部採購的基本上是非軍用的部分，我在想我們的標準在哪裡，然後在現階段當中要如何逐步去排除非紅供應鏈的問題，因為目前有很多部分感覺上是排除不了，所以我們也很希望知道經濟部做為整個無人機產業的主管單位，你們是怎麼樣來看待這件事情，好不好？好的。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:10:43.437000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:11:08.156000+08:00","text":"最後，我想問一個狀態，4月4號的時候有一個大水，水利署有特別提到84%的地方在2小時之內就退了，我想知道另外16%的地方，有86個點是哪些地方沒有退，是什麼原因？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T11:11:09.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:11:25.515000+08:00","text":"報告委員，確實有一些地點淹了比較長的時間，尤其像苗栗後龍溪的支流沙河溪，因為那邊有些護岸和橋梁的問題，縣政府跟我們會共同來努力改善。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:11:26.176000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:11:35.723000+08:00","text":"OK，我特別想要關注它的狀態，你到時候再讓我詳細知道這16%的地方大概都在苗栗還是還有其他地方，包括新竹這邊有沒有相關的部分。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T11:11:35.723000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:11:37.044000+08:00","text":"好，沒有問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:11:37.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:12:10.187000+08:00","text":"另外，我想要特別跟你探討，因為我們有五項延續性計畫，到114年7月份為止執行率都不好，因為統計數字只有到去年7月，這五項計畫當中，包括離島地區供水改善計畫第三期、無自來水地區供水改善計畫第五期，接下來第三項是中央管流域整體改善與調適計畫，這個部分就跟淹水有很大的關係，執行率的情況都不高。","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:12:11.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:12:34.466000+08:00","text":"第四個是水災智慧防災計畫第二期，這也跟我們這次淹水有比較大的相關，實現率也都不高，第五個是地下水保育管理暨地層下陷防治計畫第四期，這五個都是跨年度執行的狀態，我們看到去年的執行率都不好，還是到年底已經很明顯地提高了？","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T11:12:34.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:12:50.981000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這一些計畫主要的特性都是補助地方政府，我們水利工作的特性都是工程到最後結算，才會一次性給付，所以依照過去的經驗，我們都可以達到95%以上，沒有問題。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:12:51.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:12:51.262000+08:00","text":"OK，這樣很好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:12:53.684000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:13:43.358000+08:00","text":"我另外特別關注一下，有關於新竹市113年度的前瞻預算，坦白說，新竹市在整體來說執行率已經是好的，可是因為畢竟離100%還有一些距離，所以本席也想特別知道新竹市的詳細狀態，執行率68.57%的治理百分比，在全國來說已經算前段班，可是我們好還希望更好，針對新竹市為什麼沒有辦法達成更好的數字，再請水利署之後到本辦公室給本席詳細的資料，包括新竹市還有哪些地方要特別去處理，也給本席一個詳細內容。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T11:13:43.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:13:43.699000+08:00","text":"我們會照辦，沒問題，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-22T11:13:43.819000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:13:43.839000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T11:13:44.339000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:13:46.339000+08:00","text":"謝謝鄭正鈐委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T11:13:46.639000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:13:49.781857+08:00","text":"接下來請陳超明委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}