{"error":false,"id":["168721"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":168721,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168721","日期":"2026-04-22","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"聯席會議-11-5-36,15-2","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期司法及法制、內政委員會第2次聯席會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":2,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"聯席會議","委員會代碼":[36,15],"委員會代碼:str":["司法及法制委員會","內政委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第5會期司法及法制、內政委員會第2次聯席會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-04-22T09:35:27+08:00","結束時間":"2026-04-22T09:43:48+08:00","影片長度":"00:08:21","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f15341169e2d0036c169f826bc43123a8d4f2050ed7b2b649b05516ffde792dc4e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"翁曉玲","委員發言時間":"09:35:27 - 09:43:48","會議時間":"2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制、內政委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：併案審查\n（一）行政院函請審議「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（二）委員張雅琳等20人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（三）委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（四）委員沈發惠等19人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（五）委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（六）委員王美惠等17人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（七）委員吳沛憶等18人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（八）委員徐富癸等18人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n（九）委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「海洋委員會海巡署組織法第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。\n【第（七）、（八）案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第（九）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":0.03096875,"end":2.61284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":3.06846875,"end":4.705343750000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":3.7772187500000003,"end":4.7897187500000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7.236593750000001,"end":7.894718750000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":8.41784375,"end":30.355343750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":31.13159375,"end":34.017218750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":35.080343750000004,"end":70.02846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":70.58534375,"end":70.92284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":71.37846875000001,"end":72.54284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":73.21784375,"end":74.82096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":75.32721875,"end":77.04846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":77.50409375000001,"end":82.95471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":82.98846875000001,"end":90.05909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":90.32909375,"end":105.12846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":105.43221875,"end":108.80721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":107.45721875000001,"end":108.99284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":109.17846875000001,"end":114.40971875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":114.62909375000001,"end":121.48034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":121.76721875000001,"end":126.54284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":127.08284375000001,"end":128.80409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":129.47909375,"end":131.53784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":131.80784375000002,"end":132.71909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":133.15784375,"end":134.30534375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":134.64284375,"end":136.70159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":137.19096875,"end":138.99659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":139.31721875,"end":140.59971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":141.03846875000002,"end":146.06721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":144.49784375000002,"end":153.89721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":146.92784375000002,"end":147.26534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":153.94784375,"end":153.96471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":154.04909375,"end":184.91346875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":185.03159375,"end":193.85721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":193.97534375,"end":194.00909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":194.09346875,"end":203.10471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":202.07534375,"end":207.86346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":207.89721875,"end":212.03159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":211.37346875,"end":221.29596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":216.06471875000003,"end":217.26284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":218.32596875000002,"end":223.96221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":221.97096875000003,"end":225.09284375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":226.05471875,"end":230.93159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":228.14721875,"end":229.37909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":230.88096875000002,"end":234.25596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":231.33659375000002,"end":231.67409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":234.79596875000001,"end":257.47596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":241.96784375000001,"end":242.50784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":243.35159375,"end":243.72284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":258.47159375,"end":321.63471875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":322.19159375000004,"end":333.81846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":334.08846875,"end":336.50159375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":336.55221875,"end":339.96096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":340.16346875000005,"end":341.80034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":342.01971875000004,"end":348.80346875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":349.05659375000005,"end":355.09784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":355.50284375,"end":430.34346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":373.67721875,"end":374.06534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":374.45346875,"end":374.74034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":410.63346875,"end":411.07221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":411.93284375,"end":412.15221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":431.64284375000005,"end":441.27846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":441.86909375000005,"end":475.53471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":475.87221875000006,"end":483.66846875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":480.64784375000005,"end":485.86221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":484.56284375,"end":495.16034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":495.17721875,"end":497.11784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":497.45534375000005,"end":498.90659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":500.56034375,"end":501.04971875}],"whisperx":[{"start":0.37,"end":4.516,"text":"好 謝謝主席 有請副主委有請張副主委喂 好"},{"start":9.244,"end":26.472,"text":"副主委好首先我想問一個有關於最近發生的時事議題就是有一艘基隆級的泉魚六號海難事件這個事情基本上看起來是一個還蠻單純的海上救援但是現在卻演變成為兩岸各說各話的救難羅生門"},{"start":35.114,"end":49.472,"text":"我想對於人民來講最在意的就是生命財產的安全而不是在乎的是這誰先搶到話語權誰先做政治宣傳所以我今天我想請教海巡署的幾個問題"},{"start":50.914,"end":74.574,"text":"就是到底全魚六號它在4月16號在釣魚台東北約77海里那時候發生了這個失火那當時的救援的真相到底是如何在第一時間趕到現場然後有去幫忙去救助這個船員的到底是哪一個國家"},{"start":75.536,"end":104.716,"text":"我這邊特別跟委員說明中國大陸只要逮到機會他就可以做他認真作戰這是我現在聲明的部分第二個部分全域六號他是在16號的早上5點21分那我們5點21分接到通報以後因為那個地方是日本的搜救責任區我們現在所有的全世界搜救責任區都是根據IMO所有相關規定來規範的也就是那個責任區誰的責任區發現誰要先去救那我特別要跟委員報告我們現在搜救無國界"},{"start":105.816,"end":128.751,"text":"誰看到誰就會去救他不管是哪一個國家的那第二部分就是我們通報我們在國售中心就第一時間就通報日本日本海上保安廳他們是日本海上保安廳的第一艘船是在8點38分就到現場然後第二個部分他7點21分的時候他的空襯機海保就到現場去看了"},{"start":129.551,"end":152.039,"text":"所以第一個時間到現場的,是我們鄰近的漁船那個全體36,他先把船上有7個人,他先把6個船員先救起來那日本的,日本海保廳的PLO那個89謝謝副主委,您剛剛講這些事情,就是當然就是說,就中國大陸那邊"},{"start":152.679,"end":176.822,"text":"他們也發布了這個相關的新聞訊息也PO了照片那看起來當時他們應該是離這個泉漁六號的失火的船之非常靠近的那麼在這個部分來說可能日本也許你們我們先通知了日本那麼日本他先派了這個偵察機等等的去巡邏但是在第一時間救援的"},{"start":177.563,"end":202.918,"text":"除了我們自己剛剛講的全域36號我們自己台灣的船之外是不是中國大陸那邊的船也有伸出援手去救援我們接到全域36號通報的時候是在下午的4點多他有通報說有一艘中國的海警船在現場協助滅火那日本的日本他是以先救人為優先所以他第一時間除了滅火以外然後他先去救那個船長這個船到底是什麼兩邊都一起出來滅火嗎"},{"start":206.86,"end":222.806,"text":"一起救援嗎?日本跟中國大陸都有所以你看中國大陸是最先有去滅火的嘛然後船員是不是也是他們先救起來日本先滅火 日本先到但是日本沒有救船員"},{"start":226.107,"end":252.066,"text":"船員是我們在周邊作業的所以我們就先救了他們先救起來的好那如果這樣的話其實我想這個是一個大家蠻關心的一個船難的事件那更在乎的就是說到現在為止還有一名失蹤的船長到現在都還沒有被救起來我們很希望就是說是在不久的將來可以趕快找到這名船長那麼但是"},{"start":253.847,"end":272.834,"text":"就這件事情來說本席其實很在意的就是這個船難事件發生了那中國大陸他們那裡有可能他們的說法然後日本那邊也有他們說法但最重要是我們自己的這是我們自己的漁船海巡署應該要真實的呈現整個的救難經過"},{"start":275.056,"end":296.371,"text":"剛剛這個副主委講得很好就是救難無國界那麼救難我覺得也不應該去區別到底是誰先救誰後救或是說人家有救了然後又故意說他們又是一個政治的一個統戰的一個話術重要的是說是不是能夠救回人民的生命我覺得這是才是重點那在這裡我還想要再進一步的去了解的就是說那現在因為釣魚台周邊海域本來它就是一個高風險的區域"},{"start":303.656,"end":320.925,"text":"那麼對於北部漁船的相關的緊急定位的設備衛星通訊救生裝備的等等這些補助啊保險制度那海巡署這邊或是還有這個涉及跨國搜救協調機制就這個部分來講的話海巡署或是海委會這裡有沒有特別強化"},{"start":322.81,"end":348.316,"text":"這邊跟委員報告就是有關漁船的相關的這些設備補助還有包括救難設施這邊因為這是漁業署的權責那我們在我們還有一個部分我們會就護漁的部分我們會加強那比如說現在這個這個時機點就是釣魚台的台日海域的重點那個漁訊局所以我們通常會派一到三艘的大艦會在漁船最多的地方在附近護漁"},{"start":349.156,"end":354.972,"text":"那像台北現在也是熱季啊所以我們會派一到兩艘的大艦會在附近那保護我們的漁民"},{"start":356.384,"end":384.742,"text":"尤其是因为日本也认为这个钓鱼团那边是他们重要的海域他们过去也曾经有发生过就是又这个驱赶台湾的渔船那甚至对于台湾的渔民非常不友善比较恶劣的一个做法我们希望就是海巡署能够肩负起保护我们渔民的这个责任那么更何况就是现在海巡署对日本就是在这个海域的部分那又有中国大陆那边他们也会一起去"},{"start":385.842,"end":412.7,"text":"巡邏那麼就未來如果說有發生類似像這樣的一個救難事件來說我認為說兩岸還是要基於一個海難的相互互助的這樣的一個精神如果說那邊的船發生了問題我們去救援我們的船發生了問題他們也來救援那大家要把政治放兩旁這個就像我講的人民的生命財產才是最重要的這是以上我對於海巡署的期許"},{"start":413.26,"end":429.131,"text":"那另外對於說今天的海巡署要增加多一位副署長的事因為副署委也來跟我這裡報告過我原則上是支持可是我還是要講一下就是就目前我看到海委會跟海巡署之間分工的一個很奇特的狀況其實"},{"start":431.67,"end":460.378,"text":"就副主委您自己本身就是海委會的副主委但是又去擔任海巡署的署長所以您一個人是身兼數職對不對如果說今天海巡署署長跟副主委他是兩個不同的人擔任海巡署的署長其實他再加上兩個副署長也許就夠了可是你現在變成是分身乏術啊要去履行政務副主委的這樣的責任然後又同時要再去承擔海巡署署長這個重責大任"},{"start":461.278,"end":474.783,"text":"確實對於整個海巡署的人力配置來講的話是不足的那麼我認為說這個部分其實未來其實應該要進行檢討是不是副主委就副主委一個專職然後海巡署的署長就海巡署署長的專職"},{"start":475.902,"end":498.571,"text":"跟委包因為這有牽涉到修法所以到時候我們再來做相關的研究是因為你們自己就在內部所以很清楚知道說相關的法律是不是應該進行修正我個人覺得海巡署署長在工作上是不影響的這邊特別跟委員說明我完全不會影響到海巡署的工作而且我們推行的越來越好也謝謝委員的支持謝謝委員好以上好謝謝好謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}