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我們平台處有已經找業者但是相對的就是說165的是內政部你們有找業者什麼時候找業者的"},{"start":406.805,"end":426.443,"text":"應該是這禮拜跟上禮拜有在處理然後方向上其實大概是說請這個相關部會也是這禮拜還是上個禮拜因為我這邊了解到目前是還在研議中嘛衛福部然後還有內政部那我這邊想要了解為什麼不是NCC去主動的去找這些業者然後跟其他部會一起共同來討論看能不能制定一個統一的標準"},{"start":427.304,"end":455.06,"text":"跟委員報告這個新聞在處理的階段我們同仁其實就有跟業者來非正式的去了解溝通那後續會朝向什麼樣的收費呢後續朝向是說相關部會衛福部也好啊我們是指三大業者他們會怎麼樣來去做收費像針對這樣子的公益短碼報告委員那個主要是因為主要這兩個那個特別號碼的主政機關包含內政部警政署的165"},{"start":457.079,"end":474.724,"text":"通常這種東西如果需要供應的話其實三大業者在過去其實165以165專線來講它民國94年就配合警政署它第一個它有三大業者有做客服端所以我們現在確實看到它的那個收費標準還是有存在落差嘛那三大電信它的"},{"start":476.704,"end":503.635,"text":"他零收都是破千億所以對社會觀感來說我是希望可以朝向就是有一個標準的收費門檻或是朝向能不能就是都是免費他們主要那都是免費部分可能因為林郡縣委員辦公室也曾經找討論這個問題那內政部警政署說他同意配合編列預算來支應這部分因為既然你們已經有召開過會議了嗎那也在提供本席辦公室你們的會議記錄請送資料給委員OK好謝謝"},{"start":506.679,"end":506.821,"text":"謝謝各位"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:41:51+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:41:55.141000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:41:55.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:41:55.902000+08:00","text":"主席，有請NCC陳代理主委。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T11:41:56.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:41:56.203000+08:00","text":"我們請陳主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:41:56.203000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:07.750000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:07.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:08.631000+08:00","text":"主委早，主委好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:09.111000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:10.392000+08:00","text":"主委，先和您討論OTT。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:10.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:20.898000+08:00","text":"目前OTT串流服務在臺灣已具相當的規模，它的商業模式也從過去單純訂閱到現在已經逐步走向多元化，它也正在快速發展中。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:21.538000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:26.021000+08:00","text":"今天要請教主委相關的風險管理，還有也跟防範詐騙有關。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:26.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:42:52.447000+08:00","text":"我們先看，OTT平台掌握用戶的帳號付款資訊、使用資料，以帳號為核心，像是使用者的email、密碼和付款資訊，常見的狀況是帳號外流和盜用共享、濫用黑市帳號等這些相關的問題，現在已經發生的有假帳號共享，還有假訂閱優惠、盜用帳號轉賣，我想要請教主委，要如何來管理？","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:42:53.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:22.957000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，其實OTT的部分我們在110年5月25日通過一個草案，有對外公布，當時的立法方向大概就是改為行為管制，當時也有公告說，達到一定規模的話必須要登記，然後課以特別義務，但是方向上還是抓大放小，有層級化的一些義務，但是當時社會各界，包括業者，比較沒有共識。","quality":0.796},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:24.418000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:25.199000+08:00","text":"你講的是當時的OTT專法嗎？對。","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:25.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:26.440000+08:00","text":"我請教主委，您認為它是什麼樣的服務型態？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:30.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:32.415000+08:00","text":"我們當時想要管的標的對象……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:32.915000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:34.216000+08:00","text":"它是什麼樣的服務型態呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:34.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:44.266000+08:00","text":"它還是架構在internet上頭的，主要是以PGI，就是專業型的內容產出服務。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:45.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:46.829000+08:00","text":"所以它算是類電信嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:48.550000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:43:49.031000+08:00","text":"對，沒錯。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:43:49.891000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:00.778000+08:00","text":"因為它跟電信服務一樣，它提供通訊的傳輸，還有傳送訊號，可是它在法律上，明確又是不一樣的，OTT目前不能被歸在電信管理法，沒有錯吧？","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:02.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:05.801000+08:00","text":"國內的法制是這樣，但國外有些國家其實是用電信法管理。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:06.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:07.121000+08:00","text":"請主委說明，目前針對資安的問題有沒有最低標準？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:11.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:12.122000+08:00","text":"資安部分嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:12.122000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:12.522000+08:00","text":"對，資安的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:13.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:23.871000+08:00","text":"資安部分，因為資安涉及相關資安主管機關，但是OTT的營運管理部分，我們會提出一個軟法指引來管理。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:24.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:44:25.753000+08:00","text":"因為它現在不受電信監理嘛！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:44:26.0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Max目前也有導入廣告，面對這樣的廣告風險，因為它過去是純訂閱，現在有廣告加上訂閱，很可能會有第三方的廣告出現在這個平台上，其中的內容和導流風險，誰來管理？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:45:44.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:45:53.587000+08:00","text":"如果它的廣告涉及詐騙，其實現有的打詐條例也有做相關的處理。","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:45:54.027000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:46:14.579000+08:00","text":"如果涉及到其他的，看它涉及的情況，假設它涉及虛偽不實或相關的刑法也好，或者是其他個別的法律都會有一些適用，差別只是目前沒有主要管理營運的作用法而已。","quality":0.797},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:46:14.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:46:19.962000+08:00","text":"因為主委剛剛有提到OTT專法，目前你們OTT專法的進度到哪裡了？","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:46:21.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:46:31.347000+08:00","text":"我們111年提出過草案，當時社會沒有共識，所以還是停在草案階段，後來是因為NCC委員會沒辦法組成，但我們有持續在更新。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:46:32.228000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:46:35.111000+08:00","text":"你們是怎麼管理、約束業者？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:46:35.771000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:46:56.268000+08:00","text":"基本上，目前我們手上的最新版草案是抓大放小、層級化管理，達到一定的規模，我們會納管，只是當時在徵詢各界意見的時候，包括本國業者和國外業者，他們的看法有一些對立，我們有持續在做這件事。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:46:56.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:09.079000+08:00","text":"因為目前只有草案，我們是希望可以有更完整的規範，包括平台必須負責，也包含風險管理、內容的治理，還有平台透明度，也要完整的告訴社會大眾。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:09.779000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:18.345000+08:00","text":"對，委員講到重點，所以雖然硬法、作用法目前沒有辦法處理，但是我們用軟法指引，我們會推出OTT的相關指引。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:18.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:27.091000+08:00","text":"OTT，剛剛委員提到一個重點，就是透明度的部分，不管是客戶、民眾的申訴、救濟和透明度，這個指引我們去年已經公布了。","quality":0.82},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:28.532000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:31.195000+08:00","text":"所以希望NCC不只是要求業者要自律啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:31.716000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:38.443000+08:00","text":"因為111年開始討論，到現在它已經有廣告了嘛！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:38.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:44.550000+08:00","text":"當時是沒有的，所以整個平台和過去是不一樣的，也請NCC多加留意。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:45.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:45.991000+08:00","text":"好，我們會與時俱進。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:46.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:46.952000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:47:47.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:47:59.860000+08:00","text":"再來，本席也有接獲陳情，民眾反映目前國內像165詐騙或1925安心專線等公益服務，因為業者不同的關係，存在不同的收費門檻，還有語音提示的差異。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:00.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:01.341000+08:00","text":"NCC有沒有掌握到？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:01.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:02.502000+08:00","text":"有沒有進行討論？有。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:02.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:20.093000+08:00","text":"其實前幾天媒體也有披露，重點就是165、1955等等專線，目前相關機關大概是介接中華電信，其他非中華電信的電信業者必須轉接到中華電信，會有一些接續費的問題。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:21.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:23.996000+08:00","text":"比方165好了，遠傳、台哥大本身也要……","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:24.877000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:29.079000+08:00","text":"本席想要問的是，主委，你們有沒有召集三大電信業者討論呢？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:29.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:31.101000+08:00","text":"有，我們平台處已經有找業者。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:31.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:34.783000+08:00","text":"但是相對的，165是內政部……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:34.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:35.344000+08:00","text":"你們有找業者？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:35.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:35.644000+08:00","text":"什麼時候找業者？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:37.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:40.047000+08:00","text":"應該是這禮拜和上禮拜都有在處理。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:40.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:44.031000+08:00","text":"方向上，大概是會請相關部會也要……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:44.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T11:48:45.572000+08:00","text":"是這禮拜還是上個禮拜？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員若華","start":"2026-04-22T11:48:45.713000+08:00","guessed":fa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