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謝謝邱志偉委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:33.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:36.228000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，首先請經濟部龔部長。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:36.228000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:36.869000+08:00","text":"請龔部長。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:36.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:38.370000+08:00","text":"請國貿署劉署長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:38.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:40.391000+08:00","text":"請國貿署劉署長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:40.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:43.294000+08:00","text":"署長不在是吧？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:44.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:44.194000+08:00","text":"對，署長請假。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:44.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:47.016000+08:00","text":"不是到12點嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:47.016000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:48.016000+08:00","text":"邱委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:47.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:02:54.022000+08:00","text":"臺灣加入CPTPP是我們的重要政策，推動上一定要有預算，也要有策略。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:02:54.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:02.488000+08:00","text":"請教經濟部，特別是國貿署，今年有沒有編列、編多少預算推動臺灣加入CPTPP？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:03.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:04.634000+08:00","text":"我想只應該編在國貿署。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:04.634000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:05.634000+08:00","text":"主要是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:05.634000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:06.634000+08:00","text":"OTN？","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:06.634000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:07.634000+08:00","text":"對，OTN。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:05.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:12.417000+08:00","text":"OTN是任務編組，但相關預算應該編在國貿署。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:14.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:15.818000+08:00","text":"從預算書裡面能不能反映出來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:15.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:16.998000+08:00","text":"要推動，沒有預算不行啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:18.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:21.619000+08:00","text":"的確有一部分編在OTN，但是在經濟部項下。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:22.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:24.820000+08:00","text":"好，OTN今年編列多少要推動臺灣加入CPTPP？","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:25.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:28.602000+08:00","text":"OTN編多少錢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:28.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:42.830000+08:00","text":"我們要跟12個會員國磋商、討論，甚至希望有會員國可以幫臺灣提案、成立工作小組。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:43.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:46.092000+08:00","text":"我這一問預算你們就不知道，還怎麼推動加入CPTPP？","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"徐資深談判代表兼執行秘書崇欽","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:47.353000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:03:54.359000+08:00","text":"向委員報告，今年我們推動CPTPP的費用，以使用來講的話……","quality":0.731},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:03:59.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:04.917000+08:00","text":"如果還支吾其辭、講不清楚預算有多少，我很難期待你們有好的表現。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"徐資深談判代表兼執行秘書崇欽","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:04.917000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:05.917000+08:00","text":"大概是在……多少？","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐資深談判代表兼執行秘書崇欽","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:04.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:06.818000+08:00","text":"今年已經動支的部分大約是450萬臺幣。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:12.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:17.865000+08:00","text":"如果是美金還差不多，450萬臺幣要跟12個國家磋商？","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:18.405000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:35.552000+08:00","text":"國貿署要跟主要國家、其他願意幫臺灣的國家加強磋商、討論或提出對策，甚至舉行高層會議，我也建議部長，若有必要，到越南跑一趟，或者去日本跑一趟，就是去主要關鍵國。","quality":0.843},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:35.712000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:38.374000+08:00","text":"現在才用450萬元，450萬元能做多少事情？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:38.374000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:39.374000+08:00","text":"非常有限。","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:39.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:46.763000+08:00","text":"我們也利用比較多元的時間儘量接觸，都會表達。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:48.304000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:04:59.652000+08:00","text":"把這個議題分散到OTN、分散到外交部、國貿署跟經濟部，沒有統整的戰力、各部會各行其是，當然不可能把績效展現出來嘛！","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:04:59.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:03.755000+08:00","text":"而且預算又編得……我覺得很納悶，預算為什麼編得如此之少？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:04.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:12.282000+08:00","text":"如果要推動，應該要有一位政務委員、再生大臣─在日本是由經濟再生大臣強力推動。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:12.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:17.004000+08:00","text":"做重要國家政策，資源、預算要到位，人也要到位啊！","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:18.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:22.947000+08:00","text":"那麼我要問你，你們跟12個成員國磋商、討論，目前的結果怎麼樣？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:24.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:31.786000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們現在都是透過雙邊或多邊預算，只要有機會碰面，就會提到這件事情。不是！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:31.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:40.669000+08:00","text":"你要把它當成正式專案執行，如果只是附帶地、在多邊協議時附帶提一下，人家怎麼會重視呢？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:41.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:43.531000+08:00","text":"我就為了CPTPP跑了幾個國家？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:43.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:44.532000+08:00","text":"跑了7個國家啊！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:44.532000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:45.532000+08:00","text":"是，非常敬佩。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:45.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:05:50.817000+08:00","text":"而且是面對面地向國會議員表達臺灣要加入的決心、已經準備好了啊！","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:05:51.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:00.344000+08:00","text":"在雙邊對話中，通常CPTPP是一部分，但是也會談其他議題，所以是一起談，不會只談一件事。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:00.344000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:09.451000+08:00","text":"今年是關鍵年，如果在今年年底越南當主辦國時，我們仍沒有辦法加入，後面就遙遙無期了，這就是為什麼我急於現在。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:10.793000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:38.627000+08:00","text":"我覺得你要把它當作正事、要用部長的高度整合，整合OTN、整合外交部、整合各外館經濟組同仁，每一個月回報最新進度、接下來結果怎麼樣、我們要怎麼達陣、要由誰提案讓臺灣成立工作小組，且其他會員國都不要有特別的反對意見，這樣我們成立工作小組才能水到渠成嘛！","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:39.227000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:39.927000+08:00","text":"要有人提案啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:40.507000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:40.987000+08:00","text":"那麼你要策動哪些國家提案？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.187000+08:00","text":"這些都要有腹案欸！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.307000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.447000+08:00","text":"好，我們來思考。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.587000+08:00","text":"臺灣還不是內閣制國家。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:41.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:43.047000+08:00","text":"如果是內閣制國家、國會議員可以兼任閣員的話，我可以當你們的……","quality":0.741},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:43.047000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:45.697750+08:00","text":"對，可以轉換職務。","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:45.697750+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:48.348500+08:00","text":"現在不是內閣制嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:48.348500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:50.999250+08:00","text":"我是說，請部長把它當作一件大事。是。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:50.999250+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:53.650000+08:00","text":"接下來請產發署。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:53.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:06:53.690000+08:00","text":"署長，問你3個產業。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:06:54.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:28.275000+08:00","text":"新的一年預算今年通過，雖然晚了一點，航太產業、金屬扣件產業、石化產業，這些產業都集中在中南部，關於你的施政重點跟你要達成的目標，請邱署長針對這三項產業加以說明。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"邱署長求慧","start":"2026-04-22T12:07:32.066000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:42.870000+08:00","text":"在扣件產業方面，AI方面的推動現在是我們的重點，希望藉由AI的推動讓他們可以……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:07:43.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:45.831000+08:00","text":"AI推動講很久了，有沒有具體成效？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:07:46.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:51.994000+08:00","text":"你是不是可以就今年預定推動的成果跟目標提供一些書面資料給我？好。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:07:52.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:52.834000+08:00","text":"那航太呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱署長求慧","start":"2026-04-22T12:07:53.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:07:59.068000+08:00","text":"航太部分，是加入國際認證的協助。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:00.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:01.230000+08:00","text":"重點是在無人機嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱署長求慧","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:02.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:03.112000+08:00","text":"對，無人機。對啦！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:03.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:04.193000+08:00","text":"重點在無人機。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:04.533000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:17.203000+08:00","text":"我們在航太上已經有一定的基礎，現在新的領域是無人機，所以你要怎麼協助航太產業裡的無人機生根、茁壯、發展、與國際接軌，這才是最重要的嘛！","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:18.284000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:18.605000+08:00","text":"石化呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱署長求慧","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:19.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:26.690000+08:00","text":"石化方面，我們現在正在亞灣推動石化工安也可以透過AI方式提升。","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"邱署長求慧","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:27.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:30.172000+08:00","text":"另外一部分就是高值化的推動，大概是這樣。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:30.172000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:50.375000+08:00","text":"現在股市三萬八，但石化相關產業大概是一萬點左右的股價，甚至還比一萬點時的股價更低，面臨產業發展的瓶頸跟挑戰，怎麼用政府的力量協助他們轉型？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:51.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:08:59.277000+08:00","text":"當然，面對中國競爭也是很重要的原因，他們自己要先有轉型的意識，但你們也要就轉型給予協助跟輔導啊！","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:08:59.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:05.299000+08:00","text":"你去看看傳統產業的股價，與AI、半導體的股價完全是天差地遠啊！","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:08.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:19.602000+08:00","text":"針對這三項對中南部來說相對重要的產業，希望政府能夠拿出具體政策，並且有具體成果，協助這三個產業有更好的競爭力。","quality":0.863},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:21.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:22.404000+08:00","text":"現在請園管局楊局長。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:22.404000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:23.264000+08:00","text":"部長，對於海外產業聚落布局，你們編了一億執行，對不對？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:36.449000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:50.830000+08:00","text":"但我覺得這項計畫編一億，好像只是做資料蒐集，沒有具體成果，你應該可以告訴我這個海外產業聚落在哪一個國家、哪一個城市已經有初步雛形，又集中在哪些產業？","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:53.915000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:09:54.696000+08:00","text":"報告委員，分成幾個部分。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:09:55.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:14.087000+08:00","text":"我們除了在某些國家設置了服務及貿易中心，另外也要跟TEEMA、也就是電電公會共同開發園區，某些已經有合作方案，比如說第一個在波蘭已經有了，他們已經開始要選……","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:14.087000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:15.087000+08:00","text":"還在哪些國家？","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:14.087000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:15.668000+08:00","text":"因為可行性評估有3案，3案中一個是波蘭，一個在哪裡？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:18.890000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:20.271000+08:00","text":"在美國。美國？還有？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:20.271000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:21.312000+08:00","text":"美國可能有2個地方。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:21.312000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:22.733000+08:00","text":"有2個地方？對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:22.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:23.233000+08:00","text":"那東南亞呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:24.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:35.781000+08:00","text":"關於東南亞，本來是考量菲律賓是不是有可能，現在也在討論當中，尤其是美國也宣布了，跟菲律賓有大概一千多公頃的特區，我們可能……","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:36.922000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:47.251000+08:00","text":"我覺得3個還是不夠，2個集中在美國，1個在歐洲，甚至亞洲國家也應該有一個，才符合經濟日不落國。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:48.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:10:59.120000+08:00","text":"產業布局一定要放在我們的產業相對集中的區域，比方說越南或泰國，這樣的產業聚落才有意義。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:10:59.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:11.049000+08:00","text":"不是從頭開始、從一張白紙開始，應該在既有基礎上建構一個臺灣的海外產業聚落專區。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:11.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:21.056000+08:00","text":"對，但有區分，如果是海外聚落，對政府來講，還是要G to G，所以要看對方政府跟我們；如果是純民間的，我們也會支持。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:21.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:27.380000+08:00","text":"在純民間方面，TEEMA現在要去墨西哥，我們也會協助，但就是沒有……","quality":0.724},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:27.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:28.421000+08:00","text":"那是民間發動的。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:29.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:32.544000+08:00","text":"至於政府主導的就是波蘭一處、美國兩處？對。","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:32.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:34.506000+08:00","text":"你們多尋找一些比較有競爭力的。是。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:36.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:37.588000+08:00","text":"最後請水利署署長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:37.588000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:44.793000+08:00","text":"請水利署署長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:44.793000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:11:55.678000+08:00","text":"北高雄是我的選區，我幾乎每天都在看，這些工程我每一項都看過，署長也陪我看過好幾次，每一項工程都有其急迫性和必要性。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:11:56.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:12:08.463000+08:00","text":"而且我親自去看過、你也在現場，包括硬體工程，在115年度大概就有9,160萬元，這些都是有必要性，而且必須馬上處理的工程，請部長、署長全力支持。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:12:09.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:12:36.510000+08:00","text":"另外，在115年到118年幾個北高雄河川與排水整體改善計畫中，典寶溪、土庫排水、沿海區域這些經費都非常重要，這跟北高雄的城市韌性有關係，因為北高雄不是只有傳統產業，更有未來高科技的AI跟半導體聚落，所以不能有天然災害發生啊！","quality":0.845},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:12:38.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:12:54.850000+08:00","text":"特別是強降雨或颱風來時不能淹水，因為半導體廠不能淹水，所以針對典寶溪流域治理計畫、土庫排水與沿海區域治理計畫這些經費，我也請部長和署長重視並加以支持。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T12:12:55.531000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:12:57.412000+08:00","text":"我們會全力辦理，沒問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:12:57.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:04.558000+08:00","text":"雖然金額不小，大概50億元左右，但是錢要花在刀口上，救產業、救人民，提升生活品質。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T12:13:05.238000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:08.161000+08:00","text":"是，也謝謝委員多次現勘，給我們指導。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-04-22T12:13:08.822000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:11.384000+08:00","text":"也謝謝你，每次我邀請你，你都會來。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-04-22T12:13:11.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:14.227000+08:00","text":"應該的。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:13:14.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:15.288000+08:00","text":"謝謝邱志偉委員、謝謝部長。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:13:15.788000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:13:18.930857+08:00","text":"接下來請葉元之委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}