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部長好我想近期大家有看到一個新聞畫面就是高雄市最近出現一個紅太陽不知道您有沒有注意到這個有沒有注意到這件事情就是高雄在前幾天然後他們天空出現了一個紅太陽"},{"start":35.635,"end":62.175,"text":"這個有時候經過陽光的折射有時候真的會看到特別夕陽特別漂亮的時候的確是有可能這其實好像並不是在夕陽西下的時候的這個太陽而是就是在下午的時間出現這樣的這個紅太陽然後當時就是大家議論紛紛說這是不是有出現這個天氣的意象但是後來也有一些專家學者有說這個其實出現紅太陽就代表說有可能是我們的空氣"},{"start":64.017,"end":76.872,"text":"品質不好這個空氣當中出現有過多的懸浮微粒所以我懸浮微粒的濃度過高的時候它的比較短的波長光可能容易被散射反而使比較波長比較長的紅光"},{"start":79.255,"end":103.184,"text":"容易穿透因此形成太陽呈現這個紅太陽的這樣一個狀況就有這個太陽呈現偏紅的現象所以如果說這樣子的一個說法是正確的話是具有科學依據的話那就代表我們看到高雄的天氣看高雄的空氣事實上已經很糟糕達到一個不容忽視的一個程度"},{"start":103.744,"end":123.321,"text":"包委員這個要看是不是一天還是每天都是這樣那如果一天的話其實每天的這個陽光或大氣的狀況不一樣它散射的結果就會不一樣可是如果是常常會出現的話是不是就代表說高雄那個空氣的問題其實蠻嚴重因為我們知道其實在高雄市境內就有三座的火力發電廠興達"},{"start":125.623,"end":150.36,"text":"大陵还有南部发电厂其实大家知道这个发电厂它现在又是以燃煤为主所以呢它排放的这个空气排放的这个空污确实是蛮严重的对那本新有注意到就是说其实环境部在5月的时候曾经应该是去年5月吧曾经发布了这个空气品质政策排批书说2030年要将PM2.5要降到10维克2035年要降到8维克"},{"start":156.543,"end":180.851,"text":"可是本席今天來質詢之前我還去上了環境部所提供的空間品質監測網站然後看到像小港大流的PM2.5都是24點多23點多所以你們現在所發布的你們所推出的空品政策排評書裡面所談的PM2.5要下降到10微克以下有可能嗎"},{"start":181.431,"end":196.999,"text":"荷包委員你要看的是我們說的是平均值例如說高雄的去年的平均值是15.6維克全國是12.8高雄的確是比較高一點點但是其實這個每天每天的狀況我們是算一個年平均值來做一個目標"},{"start":199.417,"end":224.173,"text":"你認為高雄什麼時候可以降到8%?有可能嗎?基本上要非常的努力但是也跟委員報告其實整個高雄的確石化工業固定污染源的比例是全國裡面比較高的但是他的這個也有很多移動污染源各個縣市也都一樣其實造成空污的來源非常多元包含固定式移動石或是我們生活型態益善源都會造成這個空污"},{"start":225.254,"end":252.162,"text":"不是只有一個發電廠造成的因為有特別觀察到就是高雄他確實他的PM2.5你看如果說標準是10的話那WTO的PM2.5的標準其實是更低那麼代表說高雄此時此刻他的PM2.5的標準是超出正常標準的很多倍這難怪就是說為什麼台灣的肺癌比率很高但我們沒有去統計到底高雄市市民得到肺癌的比率是不是也是很高或許未來"},{"start":253.263,"end":268.861,"text":"这个部分我们已经跟卫福部有启动合作应该要有一个合作的计划了解全台湾的民众得肺癌到底出现在哪些城市比例是最高估计可能也就是高雄台中吧有电厂的地方不见得不见得"},{"start":269.341,"end":291.886,"text":"好的這話我很期待就說你們有這樣的一個計畫那另外還有就是說你們今年元旦的時候也正式啟動了PM0.1的監測本席在這邊認為說這是一個很重要的一個進展畢竟PM0.1的顆粒很小那麼它是同質量PM2.5的100倍然後更容易影響到健康可是目前全國只有設置6個監測站這6個監測站夠嗎是什麼樣的問題現在沒有辦法就是設置的比較多點"},{"start":299.348,"end":327.971,"text":"這個0.1它的儀器非常的貴因為它非常的精密所以全世界大概都是以一千萬人口設一個站為目標那我們其實只有三個站嘛學術也有三個站學術三個站所以實際上環境部這邊現在設置是三個站分別設置在哪裡北中南各一個來我們請我們司長一個設在三重一個設在台中一個設在台南都是僅離那個交通比較繁忙的地方來做設置做觀察"},{"start":328.536,"end":332.22,"text":"是因為本席認為說其實健康很重要那麼如果說像這樣一個監測是有意義的話這本席也希望就是環境部能夠這個可能下年度可以增加這個相關的監測設備的預算好那我們這樣的話可以有效的去控制"},{"start":346.335,"end":372.814,"text":"去了解整個台灣PM0.1的一個問題那最後就是本席要想問的就是說因為現在我們看到就是針對高風險區域像是鄰近工業區的學校譬如說桃園的樹林國小高雄竹後國小等等那麼這些都是被視為所謂空污的受難區可是環境部有沒有優先在這附近設置一些可以空氣品質的監測點然後甚至未來的PM0.1的設備也可以設置在附近"},{"start":376.056,"end":397.557,"text":"我們針對這些污染 在這個污染區 重工業污染區旁邊的學校我們在這個去年度就開始啟動一個新的這個幫忙他的計畫把污染源找出來然後提醒他們要特別的去助力 已經啟動了那高雄的比例的確是比較高所以我們高雄大概有八個點來九個點八個九個學校都在同步 現在正在監測當中"},{"start":398.598,"end":407.367,"text":"好的那謝謝我想因為今天時間的關係但是最後本席還是希望可以請環境部提供近三年來就是高雄市的空氣監測"},{"start":410.757,"end":434.779,"text":"就是空氣品質的監測的數據尤其是有超標的這個數據是不是可以請環境部可以提供給本席這樣的資料就是近三年來的這個高雄空氣品質超標的監測數據希望兩週之內就可以給我這份資料可以嗎是 我們都公開在網路上面那我們會再請同仁提供對 我想要超標的好不好好 謝謝謝謝翁小林委員發言"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:30.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:30.960000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:30.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:31+08:00","text":"有請彭部長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:31.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:31.120000+08:00","text":"翁委員好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:31.540000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:31.841000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:32.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:34.262000+08:00","text":"我想近期大家應該都有看到一個新聞畫面，就是高雄市最近出現一個紅太陽，不知道您有沒有注意到這件事情？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:14:34.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:14:34.842000+08:00","text":"就是前幾天高雄的天空出現了一個紅太陽。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:15:01.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:15:06.439000+08:00","text":"經過陽光的折射，有時候真的會看到夕陽特別漂亮，這的確是有可能。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:15:06.639000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:15:51.358000+08:00","text":"這好像並不是在夕陽西下時的太陽，而是在下午的時間出現紅太陽，當時大家議論紛紛說這是不是出現天氣的異象，但是後來也有一些專家學者說，其實出現紅太陽就代表有可能是空氣品質不好，空氣當中有過多的懸浮微粒，當懸浮微粒的濃度過高的時候，比較短的波長光可能容易被散射，反而使波長比較長的紅光容易穿透，因此呈現紅太陽的狀況，也就是太陽呈現偏紅的現象。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:15:52.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:08.164000+08:00","text":"如果這樣的說法是正確的、是具有科學依據的話，那就代表高雄的空氣事實上已經很糟糕，達到一個不容忽視的程度。","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:16:08.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:18.613000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這要看是只有一天，還是每天都這樣，如果只有一天的話，其實每天的陽光或大氣的狀況不一樣，它散射的結果就會不一樣，所以……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:16:18.613000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:24.818000+08:00","text":"可是如果是常常會出現的話，是不是就代表高雄空氣的問題其實蠻嚴重的？","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:16:24.818000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:25.818000+08:00","text":"我想那個應該不會每天……","quality":0},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:16:25.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:43.692000+08:00","text":"我們知道其實在高雄市境內就有三座火力發電廠，包括興達、大林還有南部發電廠，而現在發電廠又是以燃煤為主，所以它排放的空污確實是蠻嚴重的。","quality":0.726},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:16:44.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:16:55.340000+08:00","text":"本席有注意到環境部在去年5月曾經發布空氣品質政策白皮書，說2030年要將PM2.5降到10微克，2035年要降到8微克以下。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:02.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:17:25.851000+08:00","text":"本席今天來質詢之前，我還上了環境部所提供的空氣品質監測網站，結果看到像小港、大寮的PM2.5都二十四點多或二十三點多，所以你們所發布的空品政策白皮書裡面所談的PM2.5要下降到10微克以下有可能嗎？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:26.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:17:41.999000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們說的是平均值，例如高雄去年的平均值是15.6微克，全國是12.8微克，高雄的確是比較高一點點，但其實每天的狀況……我們是以年平均值來做一個目標。","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:44.417000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:17:46.299000+08:00","text":"這樣講好了，你認為高雄什麼時候可以降到8微克？","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:47.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:17:48.780000+08:00","text":"有可能嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:48.780000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:17:49.780000+08:00","text":"你說他們現在的平均值是15微克對不對？","quality":0},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:17:48.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:12.115000+08:00","text":"基本上要非常的努力，但是也跟委員報告，的確高雄石化工業固定污染源的比例是全國當中比較高的，但是也有很多移動污染源，各個縣市也都一樣，其實造成空污的來源非常多元，包含固定式、移動式或是生活型態逸散源都會造成空污，所以不是只有一個發電廠造成的。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:12.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:30.660000+08:00","text":"基本上我有特別觀察到確實高雄的PM2.5……如果標準是10的話，其實WTO的PM2.5標準更低，那麼代表高雄此時此刻的PM2.5超出正常標準很多倍，難怪臺灣的肺癌比率很高……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:30.660000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:31.660000+08:00","text":"報告委員，其實……","quality":0},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:31.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:37.162000+08:00","text":"當然我們沒有去統計到底高雄市市民得到肺癌的比率是不是也是很高，或許未來環境部跟衛福部……","quality":0.78},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:38.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:40.946000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們已經跟衛福部有啟動合作了。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:41.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:42.107000+08:00","text":"應該要有一個合作的計畫……","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"彭部長啓明","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:42.107000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:43.469000+08:00","text":"是，已經有開始展開了。","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:18:43.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:18:53.020000+08: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