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time之前播出，我們都照法……","quality":0.735},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:32:44.623000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:32:53.849000+08:00","text":"您剛剛有講到，之前曾經針對華視的AI影片，因為可能沒有揭露訊息，所以你們處罰他50萬，有做成這個處分嗎？","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T12:32:53.849000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:32:55.469000+08:00","text":"那個是7個委員時代做的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:32:56.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:00.531000+08:00","text":"是7個委員時代，所以是更早的時候做的，不是現在3個委員時代做的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:01.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:14.415000+08:00","text":"本席希望NCC還是要趕快去催催卓榮泰，他既然當行政院長就必須有這個義務、責任去補足提名。","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:16.956000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:26.402000+08:00","text":"前一段時間NCC才剛慶祝20週年的週年慶，我現在真的很擔心NCC會不會就此消滅在卓榮泰的手上。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:26.402000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:27.402000+08:00","text":"我們希望NCC未來走得……","quality":0},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:26.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:27.723000+08:00","text":"如果委員沒有即時補足的話，接下來我們的預算案、法案是要由誰來出面呢？","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:27.723000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:40.546000+08:00","text":"我們都不希望這種情況發生。","quality":0},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:40.546000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:41.227000+08:00","text":"這問題很嚴重的！","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:41.227000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:42.847000+08:00","text":"是不是？對。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:42.847000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:49.070000+08:00","text":"第一波的提名，然後第二波的提名，第一波提名是因為他們後來中間又撤回了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:49.670000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:33:59.013000+08:00","text":"也拖了也很久，第二波提名就算是不通過，要趕快再提出第三波的名單，我不知道現在行政院是都找不到適合的人嗎？","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:33:59.013000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:34:08.177000+08:00","text":"臺灣的通訊傳播、法律人才濟濟，卓榮泰都找不到適合的人來擔任NCC委員嗎？","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:34:09.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:34:16.816000+08:00","text":"我真的很擔心，因為畢竟本席曾經也是NCC委員，我不希望看到NCC就此消滅。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T12:34:16.816000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:34:17.816000+08:00","text":"大家都不希望。","quality":0},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:34:16.816000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:34:30.859000+08:00","text":"或者以後乾脆就把NCC又走回20年前的回頭路，部分的處室就移到數發部，或是部分的處室移到交通部，是不是又回到過去的時代呢？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:34:32.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:35:02.519000+08:00","text":"獨立機關有它的存在價值，當然人很重要，沒有人，這個機關就無法運作，更何況我們剛剛講的，它衍生很多相關NCC的發照、處分等等這些問題，非常影響整個廣電媒體業者的權利甚鉅，所以本席今天希望陳主委您回去之後還是儘速、趕快，最好是能夠面見卓榮泰，告訴他這個問題的嚴重。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-04-22T12:35:03.759000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:35:04.820000+08:00","text":"好，我盡可能努力，謝謝委員。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"翁委員曉玲","start":"2026-04-22T12:35:05.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-22T12:35:05.360000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:35:05.860000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:35:10.431429+08:00","text":"謝謝翁曉玲委員的發言，也謝謝陳主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-22T12:35:10.731429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-22T12:35:13.874286+08:00","text":"接下來請葉元之委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}